WTF would cause the corners of the oil pan to leak so much?
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WTF would cause the corners of the oil pan to leak so much?
i just replaced my rear oil seal, at the same time i replaced the oil pan gasket. now there is a huge leak. im talkin 10 drips a minute. its weird, cause i can see where it pools up at the corner of the oil pan, (the corners closest to the tranny) i wipe it off watch it for 30 seconds and all of a sudden it pools up again fast. almost like there was just some pressure releasing from that corner of the pan.
i tried to just let my car idle on ramps and see if it would leak. it did not leak. so i go to drive it. them BAM it starts leakin instantly.
any idea why this would be leaking so bad?
BTW i did torque all the oil pan nuts/bolts to 9 ft lbs from the center out.
please help, i dont want to just replace the oil pan gasket if its gonna leak again.
i tried to just let my car idle on ramps and see if it would leak. it did not leak. so i go to drive it. them BAM it starts leakin instantly.
any idea why this would be leaking so bad?
BTW i did torque all the oil pan nuts/bolts to 9 ft lbs from the center out.
please help, i dont want to just replace the oil pan gasket if its gonna leak again.
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Are you sure you torque those bolt correctly? If I were you, I drop that oil pan and install a new gasket. Be sure to torque it correctly and in the right order. Oh yes another thing....be sure the gasket is install correctly and that is not falling out of place.
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Re: (djtony5)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by djtony5 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Are you sure you torque those bolt correctly? If I were you, I drop that oil pan and install a new gasket. Be sure to torque it correctly and in the right order.</TD></TR></TABLE>
over/under torque
over/under torque
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i torqued all the nuts/bolts to 9 ftl bs, i started from the center out, in a criss cross pattern. i then took another look at the guide in the helms manual.
it says to tighten the 6 bolts first by hand
the next part im not so clear on. it says tighten all the nuts/bolts starting from bolt 1 going clockwise.
this means this right?
the only reason im asking is because i thought i was supposed to go from the cener out
like this
which one is the correct way to torque the bolts?
it says to tighten the 6 bolts first by hand
the next part im not so clear on. it says tighten all the nuts/bolts starting from bolt 1 going clockwise.
this means this right?
the only reason im asking is because i thought i was supposed to go from the cener out
like this
which one is the correct way to torque the bolts?
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I might be off base here but I heard somewhere if you don't drop the tranny to change the rear main seal it might not sit correctly.
Two cents not worth anything lol
-Rik
Two cents not worth anything lol
-Rik
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Re: (Rikter)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Rikter »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I might be off base here but I heard somewhere if you don't drop the tranny to change the rear main seal it might not sit correctly.
Two cents not worth anything lol
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you have to drop the tranny to change the rear oil seal. its behind the flywheel
Two cents not worth anything lol
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you have to drop the tranny to change the rear oil seal. its behind the flywheel
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Re: WTF would cause the corners of the oil pan to leak so much? (Slo Cord)
no not right behind it. i took the cover off and ran it and it was apparent it was leaking from the oil pan
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i had the same problem. last week i got a new oil pan gasket installed. I drove it home and its was leaking bad around the oil gasket seals. So the mechanic called acura and ordered a another oil gasket and reinstalled everything and no more leaks on the oil pan. I recommend you check the gasket to see if its sealed properly. Mines wasnt sealed right the first time and he ended redoing the install over again and it doesnt leak anymore. Im boosted also btw. Also i just got my rear main seal replaced in tranny since it was leaking oil also and i upgraded to act clutch.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by pnoytegn707 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i had the same problem. last week i got a new oil pan gasket installed. I drove it home and its was leaking bad around the oil gasket seals. So the mechanic called acura and ordered a another oil gasket and reinstalled everything and no more leaks on the oil pan. I recommend you check the gasket to see if its sealed properly. Mines wasnt sealed right the first time and he ended redoing the install over again and it doesnt leak anymore. Im boosted also btw. Also i just got my rear main seal replaced in tranny since it was leaking oil also and i upgraded to act clutch.</TD></TR></TABLE>
yea im starting to think its the transmission seal. its hard to tell both the oils are the same color.
yea im starting to think its the transmission seal. its hard to tell both the oils are the same color.
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If ur using Honda MTF, it should smell different than oil. But some people use 10w30 and i see how there would be now way to tell if it is from tranny or engine. I would drain out tranny fluid, put in royal purple for a little while, (different color) so you can tell which is really leaking before you drop the trans.
I hope this helps.
I hope this helps.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RIP Indian Larry »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If ur using Honda MTF, it should smell different than oil. But some people use 10w30 and i see how there would be now way to tell if it is from tranny or engine. I would drain out tranny fluid, put in royal purple for a little while, (different color) so you can tell which is really leaking before you drop the trans.
I hope this helps. </TD></TR></TABLE>
i am using honda MTF ill check for smell
otherwise using different color stuff is actually a pretty good idea, i might have to try that.
here are the pics in the mean time
BTW the flywheel cover is off only to help find the leak
I hope this helps. </TD></TR></TABLE>
i am using honda MTF ill check for smell
otherwise using different color stuff is actually a pretty good idea, i might have to try that.
here are the pics in the mean time
BTW the flywheel cover is off only to help find the leak
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Re: WTF would cause the corners of the oil pan to leak so much? (LSvtec03)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by LSvtec03 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">did you remember the hondabond?</TD></TR></TABLE>
yea i did, i put it in the 4 spots it says to in the manual
yea i did, i put it in the 4 spots it says to in the manual
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Re: WTF would cause the corners of the oil pan to leak so much? (B18B-SC)
Hey, i just remembered there was a thread like this about oil pan leaking. It ended up beign the gaskets from autoparts stores were the problem! When they got one from the dealer, it somehow didnt leak anymore. I dont know if ur using one from the dealer, so if you arent, go try that. See if that will work!
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Re: WTF would cause the corners of the oil pan to leak so much? (RIP Indian Larry)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RIP Indian Larry »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Hey, i just remembered there was a thread like this about oil pan leaking. It ended up beign the gaskets from autoparts stores were the problem! When they got one from the dealer, it somehow didnt leak anymore. I dont know if ur using one from the dealer, so if you arent, go try that. See if that will work!</TD></TR></TABLE>
im currently on my 2nd advance auto gasket and its trying to escape the bottom of my block and is starting to leak everywhere again... im ready this time around with the oem honda gasket.
im currently on my 2nd advance auto gasket and its trying to escape the bottom of my block and is starting to leak everywhere again... im ready this time around with the oem honda gasket.
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Re: WTF would cause the corners of the oil pan to leak so much? (B18B-SC)
i originally put an oem one back in, but it was leaking so i bought a gasket from BAP, it was $12 compared to $25 for the oem one. i know alot of you guys are going to come and say get oem stuff, it will go away. i just have a hard time buying another oem one if that is not the problem.
i heard in another forum there are little metal rings in the gasket that tend to get stuck to the studs when you try to remove the old gasket.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by "VTEC4DR" »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">When you put the new gasket on did you make sure the metal sealing o-rings that are made in to the gasket didnt get stuck on the old stud when you removed the old gasket.
In other words when you remove the old gasket, there are tiny little metal rings made in to the factory gasket. When you pull the old gasket off the tend to get stuck around the studs on the bottom of the block. REAL HARD TO SEE UNLESS YOU ACTUALLY ARE LOOKING FOR THEM. They get stuck and dont allow the new gasket to seat properly against the bottom of the block. Pull the pan back off and check to see if they are still there. Then use a new gasket with HONDABOND in the appropriate area and re-install. Im sure thats the issue. Ive seen it more time than not.</TD></TR></TABLE>
i am goin to take the oil pan off one more time to see if that is my problem. if it is i will go spend the extra money to get an oem gasket.
i heard in another forum there are little metal rings in the gasket that tend to get stuck to the studs when you try to remove the old gasket.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by "VTEC4DR" »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">When you put the new gasket on did you make sure the metal sealing o-rings that are made in to the gasket didnt get stuck on the old stud when you removed the old gasket.
In other words when you remove the old gasket, there are tiny little metal rings made in to the factory gasket. When you pull the old gasket off the tend to get stuck around the studs on the bottom of the block. REAL HARD TO SEE UNLESS YOU ACTUALLY ARE LOOKING FOR THEM. They get stuck and dont allow the new gasket to seat properly against the bottom of the block. Pull the pan back off and check to see if they are still there. Then use a new gasket with HONDABOND in the appropriate area and re-install. Im sure thats the issue. Ive seen it more time than not.</TD></TR></TABLE>
i am goin to take the oil pan off one more time to see if that is my problem. if it is i will go spend the extra money to get an oem gasket.
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Re: WTF would cause the corners of the oil pan to leak so much? (B18B-SC)
bump because i have the same problem with a moroso oil pan and oem gasket that was installed only 1000 miles ago. i'd like to know how to get it to stop.
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Re: WTF would cause the corners of the oil pan to leak so much? (B18B-SC)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by B18B-SC »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
i am goin to take the oil pan off one more time to see if that is my problem. if it is i will go spend the extra money to get an oem gasket. </TD></TR></TABLE>
My pan was leaking violently from the exact same area...pulled the pan off, and sure enough, the rings were doubled up
But, it still leaks ....
i am goin to take the oil pan off one more time to see if that is my problem. if it is i will go spend the extra money to get an oem gasket. </TD></TR></TABLE>
My pan was leaking violently from the exact same area...pulled the pan off, and sure enough, the rings were doubled up
But, it still leaks ....
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Re: WTF would cause the corners of the oil pan to leak so much? (NAisBEST)
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My pan was leaking violently from the exact same area...pulled the pan off, and sure enough, the rings were doubled up
But, it still leaks .... </TD></TR></TABLE>
same exact **** i just did, everything looked fine. wtf this is pissing me off
My pan was leaking violently from the exact same area...pulled the pan off, and sure enough, the rings were doubled up
But, it still leaks .... </TD></TR></TABLE>
same exact **** i just did, everything looked fine. wtf this is pissing me off