phoxking

okay so here's the deal, i have a 98 b18c1 in my 96 civic hatch.. yes i know the 96 is obd1, and it was wired up, but vtec is not engaging...i'm throwing codes for charcoal/vapor canister and the rear o2 sensor.. could it be possible that the vapor canister(obd1 in the 96) needs to be changed to obd2 canister? or is that just for better mileage/no smell of vap...I also have a little leak, it's very minor, checked for sure not from my headgasket somewhere near the dizzy or it IS The dizzy..i just wanna hear your guys opinion, before i fix each little thing n waste money on things that won't actually fix the vtec not engaging problem. THANKS HT~!

danielblushtein

bro have you checked the vtec fluid?

dntnedvtec

huh? I though 96+ are OBDII?

phoxking

uhh i'm not exactly sure, but my friend has a 97 as well and it seems the 96-98 civics are obd1 and 99-00 are obd2. someone correct me if i'm wrong


@danielblushtein - how do i check my vtecfluid?! never heard of that*<===NOOB! LOL

danielblushtein

96-00 are obd2. vtec fluid....that was a joke. But the fluid you can check is oil. If the level us low to a certain point, vtec wont engage.

phoxking

i check the oil every week, it's fine.

phoxking

so do you guys know for sure it's not the rear o2 & Vapor canister? if not that it could potentially be my thermostat, but my friend said if my thermo was fried my check engine would tell me bc..my car takes about 15-20 mins for it to get to show normal on the cluster and sometimes it's very close to cold even after i drive my car and run it to 6-7k rpm and i'm not running a cai if that has any effect..idk if it's getting to the point of not working and if that could effect it..i spend about 15-25 bucks for gas a week and i drive around 250-300 miles/week..so i think i'm okay with gas mileage..i don't wanna pick up a 50$ sensor for the evap for my obd2 canister i picked up if that won't help the vtec =/

phoxking

anyone else have an opinion on this?

94VTEC2TONE

hmm vtec solenoid? wiring to the vtec solenoid? the ecu isnt wired right hmm maybe. im not sure if coolant temp matters but check see if its working, i know when my tegs cold it wont go into vtec but i think thats oil pressure or temp that prevents it im not to sure. 02 doesnt give a **** if you hit vtec or not that sensor is ****ing useless anyway, just sees if your cat is performing correctly, ****ing useless. check the things that make vtec engage first

dinorider

I'll bet that it IS a thermostat problem. They usually stick open when they fail. Better a cold engine than an overheated one.

The check engine light will not illuminate when the thermo goes.

Practically everyone with an Integra over 10 years old would have experienced a failed thermostat, including me. I had no VTEC when the thermo failed.

For VTEC to happen, a few parameters must be met, including engine at correct operating temperature. So if the engine is too cool, all the time, no VTEC.

The correct operating temperature will be around 45-48% on the temperature gauge. Once warmed up, it will no fluctuate as you drive, the thermostat is there to control it. If the temp gauge goes up and down as you are driving, the thermostat is likely to be busted.

Replace it and have a go again. the thermostat is a cheap part.

phoxking

thanks for the advice guys i'm probably going to change the thermostat than this upcoming week and mind as well since i already changed my charc canister get the sensor off a dude on hmarket so i can get better gas mileage/not smell some fumes in the car..anyways for the thermostat change is it required to change coolant as well? my friend told me changing thermostat ur gonna have to change coolant as well, but idk if that is necessary so just making sure with YOU guys..thanks alot again! i'll tell you guys if it ends up working

caspitza

I'm having a similar problem with my b18c1... its in a 97 hatch, type R ECU. I already checked my vtec fluid LOL!.. thats good to go. I've only had the car for a couple weeks now (wisconsin winter) and have noticed it doesn't change over all the time (I don't give 'er hell until the car has been running a while so it should be warm). the car has an SI gauge cluster which the oil temp gauge seems to be faulty or not working so i'm not exactly sure on temp all the time. i was always told oil pressure is what matters for the vtec change over, not temp... possibly vtec solenoid? ECU problem?

phoxking

temperature has a factor in engaging vtec as well because without the proper temperature, it won't let you engage..but after i change the thermo and reset my ecu and still doesn't work, i'll check the vtec solenoid as well and dizzy..reason why i don't check the solenoid first bc before my swap it was in my 98 integra gsr and it ran perfectly fine.

caspitza

thermo sounds like the problem!

91_LS

1,why is this in the integra forum?
2. How do you know for sure the V-tec isn't working? Have you jumped the solenoid?
3. You're trowing codes,shouldn't you start on them first before wanting the V-tec to engage?
4.You said you've searched,but you said you know the 96 is OBD1?
92 to 95 are OBD1,over 95 are OBD2 bro,so if you looked,you would of known this.

deadline

X2

phoxking

my bad...and i'll double check because i just checked literally a few days ago my friends 97 and it was obd1..but research more i guess. and the codes i'm throwing are o2 bung and charcoal canister, those aren't really on my prior to fix besides the canister which i'm almost finished, just need the sensor o2 obviously is just for emissions..

91_LS

Your friend might of did a OBD1 swap and did the OBD2 to OBD1 conversion.

caspitza

thermostat fixed my problem!

LoLoCivic

iTrader: (1)

IT still didnt fix his problem....

91ef18

hows ur oil pressure?