Starter problems on 94 GSR with Type-R transmission
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Starter problems on 94 GSR with Type-R transmission
I've done a search and can't find anybody with the same problem as me.
About 50% of the time when I go to start my car, it just clicks once. Then when I bump the starter a bunch of times it will finally turn over. I just replaced the starter with one from O'reilly's and the problem is better than it was with the old starter, but it still happens. I have a Type-R transmission in my car, and I noticed that the Type-R starter has a slightly different part number than a GSR starter. Could this be my problem? All of my grounds are good. Maybe it could be my positive battery cable? I don't know where to start now that I have replaced the starter. I don't want to keep replacing things that don't need replacing.
Any advice would be much appreciated.
Zach
About 50% of the time when I go to start my car, it just clicks once. Then when I bump the starter a bunch of times it will finally turn over. I just replaced the starter with one from O'reilly's and the problem is better than it was with the old starter, but it still happens. I have a Type-R transmission in my car, and I noticed that the Type-R starter has a slightly different part number than a GSR starter. Could this be my problem? All of my grounds are good. Maybe it could be my positive battery cable? I don't know where to start now that I have replaced the starter. I don't want to keep replacing things that don't need replacing.
Any advice would be much appreciated.
Zach
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Re: Starter problems on 94 GSR with Type-R transmission (Zach GSR)
99.5% of the time, that clicking sound is the starter solinoid. Its the cylender on top of the starter that actuially throws out the gear to turn the fly wheel. There are usuially 2 causes to this problem. 1) the solinoid is bad, I.E. sticking, or it wont disengage, etc... 2) There is a problem with the flywheel. The starter may be too close, in which case, you ned to add shims, or it could be too close, in which case, you need to see how the bolts are fitting into the holes in the bellhousing. Also, if you remove the starter, have a peek at the flywheel, see if there is any damage, or signs of starter gear mis-alignment.
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Re: Starter problems on 94 GSR with Type-R transmission (JDM_EK_Fanatic)
Other than that, you might want
to check your power relay...
most likely its a factory part.
That would make it 12+yrs old.?
to check your power relay...
most likely its a factory part.
That would make it 12+yrs old.?
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Re: Starter problems on 94 GSR with Type-R transmission (Zach GSR)
make sure ur grond strap by the trans is tight ,if it doesnt have a ground it will do something like u say it does.. my friends si was doing same thing after he changed his clutch i tighten it and never had a problem anymore.
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Re: Starter problems on 94 GSR with Type-R transmission (Zach GSR)
Check the voltage drop of the starter to see iff there is too much resistance built up in the cable(s). that may be the issue because you've tried a different starter and the problem still exsists. get a digital voltmeter and look in the manual for procedures. I think with the meter on VDC probe the neg on the battery with the starter case, then pos on the battery with the pos on the starter terminal, then switch terminal on starter with pos terminal on starter. the should not be more than .03 VDC.
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And do yourself a favor..
once you replace your starter..
be sure to put both bolts back in.
I know the bottom one can be a
bit tough to get in...but its worth the effort.
once you replace your starter..
be sure to put both bolts back in.
I know the bottom one can be a
bit tough to get in...but its worth the effort.
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I'm not sure why you're using the type-r starter. But I also don't know why there would be any difference because the flywheel gears are the same in both. I would at least try a GSR starter and see if it fixes it
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Zach GSR »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Then when I bump the starter a bunch of times it will finally turn over. </TD></TR></TABLE>
JDM_DC4_Fanatic is the only one in this thread that posed an answer to the problem you are having....its not your main relay and highly unlikely its a ground...
when you state you have to hit the starter and then it engages you are referring to whats known as a "dead spot" in which the starter drive sticks or isn't alligned correctly wish the flywheel....by tapping the starter it frees up the drive enough to crank the vehicle over....being that you have already replaced the starter it is my opinion that the flywheel is your problem, the teeth are probably rounded off and having a difficult time catching the teeth of the drive gear in the starter. this also is probable as you stated the problem is lessened with this new starter: the old starter gear more than likely as well resembled the rounded teeth as does the flyweel, which happens from the starter being improperly installed and the teeth rubbing on eachother instead of grabbing like they should
JDM_DC4_Fanatic is the only one in this thread that posed an answer to the problem you are having....its not your main relay and highly unlikely its a ground...
when you state you have to hit the starter and then it engages you are referring to whats known as a "dead spot" in which the starter drive sticks or isn't alligned correctly wish the flywheel....by tapping the starter it frees up the drive enough to crank the vehicle over....being that you have already replaced the starter it is my opinion that the flywheel is your problem, the teeth are probably rounded off and having a difficult time catching the teeth of the drive gear in the starter. this also is probable as you stated the problem is lessened with this new starter: the old starter gear more than likely as well resembled the rounded teeth as does the flyweel, which happens from the starter being improperly installed and the teeth rubbing on eachother instead of grabbing like they should
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Re: (GRAF-FITI)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by FuknHeeHAw »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">And do yourself a favor..
once you replace your starter..
be sure to put both bolts back in.
I know the bottom one can be a
bit tough to get in...but its worth the effort.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I got both of them in. I know its worth the effort.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dvp »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I'm not sure why you're using the type-r starter. But I also don't know why there would be any difference because the flywheel gears are the same in both. I would at least try a GSR starter and see if it fixes it</TD></TR></TABLE>
Im using the GSR starter. I was asking if I shoud use the Type-R starter to fix my problem.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by GRAF-FITI »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
JDM_DC4_Fanatic is the only one in this thread that posed an answer to the problem you are having....its not your main relay and highly unlikely its a ground...
when you state you have to hit the starter and then it engages you are referring to whats known as a "dead spot".....</TD></TR></TABLE>
What I meant by "bump" the starter was turning the key a bunch of times, not physically hit the starter with a hammer. I know what you are talking about though. I imagine what I have been doing by turning the key a bunch of times has a similar effect as hitting it with a hammer.
BTW, the problem hasn't happened in quite a while so maybe it has worked itself out for now.
Thanks for all the replies.
once you replace your starter..
be sure to put both bolts back in.
I know the bottom one can be a
bit tough to get in...but its worth the effort.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I got both of them in. I know its worth the effort.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dvp »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I'm not sure why you're using the type-r starter. But I also don't know why there would be any difference because the flywheel gears are the same in both. I would at least try a GSR starter and see if it fixes it</TD></TR></TABLE>
Im using the GSR starter. I was asking if I shoud use the Type-R starter to fix my problem.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by GRAF-FITI »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
JDM_DC4_Fanatic is the only one in this thread that posed an answer to the problem you are having....its not your main relay and highly unlikely its a ground...
when you state you have to hit the starter and then it engages you are referring to whats known as a "dead spot".....</TD></TR></TABLE>
What I meant by "bump" the starter was turning the key a bunch of times, not physically hit the starter with a hammer. I know what you are talking about though. I imagine what I have been doing by turning the key a bunch of times has a similar effect as hitting it with a hammer.
BTW, the problem hasn't happened in quite a while so maybe it has worked itself out for now.
Thanks for all the replies.
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Re: (Zach GSR)
if the solinoid is square (ican't spell this) than it is a neponenso stater. the problem you describe is the starter contacts in the solinoid. easy to change cost is around $10. anyone trying to sell you an expensive starter is ripping you off.
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