b20acura

okay came home this morning after a 2 hr drive. i recently bought a gsr cluster and wanted to swap it with my ls one. so after swapping them the car wont start or crank anymore. so i put back the original cluster back and still doesnt start/crank. i hear a little click coming from where the cluster is but nothing else. starter was replaced about approx. 1 year ago. need help quick.

car:99 integra with jdm b20b, gsr tranny.

b20acura

did some research, okay so i gota swap the green film also? but why does my car not start?

b20acura

alright so got it on and everything else is back to normal except one thing, the temp guage dont work. anybody know the problem?

Fastasscar

Temp. gauge should be on and the abs light. Because you got the wrong year of gsr cluster. Now you got to swap it out or buy another one that is compatible. There is a tread on how to swap it, but you got to find it.

b20acura

yeah i swapped the film in the back. everything works except for the temp. well on cold starts the temp guage will work till its get to the middle. then it would just drop back down to cold. anyone?

b20acura

anybody?

johnny hatchback

it drops all the way to cold, like below the "C"? or does it go about 1/4 of the way toward the "C"? Is this an obd1 cluster?

b20acura

bought it from a guy that doesnt know what year. its got 87xxx miles so im gona assume approx. newish. haha. on a cold start up it will go 1/4 the way to the middle maybe a lil more. then it would drop way below the "C".

SpEeDyX

try taken the temp out of ur old cluster if u still have the problem its the green film and u gotta find a new1

i dont get y the car wouldnt start though thats odd

99SlammedCivic

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I"m pretty sure I have started my car w/ NO cluster plugged in .. hmm

b20acura

maybe that was just a coincidence where it didnt start. but i started it like 30mins after it didnt want to start and it was fine. wonder why it did that. i will swap temp gauges tmrw. but this starting problem.. i checked all fuses, starter is fairly new, battery is good.. what can it be? when it didnt start or crank, i heard a click coming from the dash only. anybody got an idea?

SpEeDyX

if u heard just a click my guess is the battery might need a charge

Green Teggy

Temp guage is probably just bad. I had my civic do that and i've also driven a car without a cluster so i don't think thats the reason yours wouldn't start. Goodluck

sixfourkiller

yeah u need to replace the green film thing in the back cuz i had that happen but my gas didnt work until i did the switch

sixfourkiller

yeah cuz when i change it my car started without the cluster and drive it too lol and the year of the cluster play an important part ifs its was an OBD1 or OBD2 cluster cuz even if u change your temp gauges it still wont work cuz its not getting any current.

b20acura

cool thanks peeps. the temp guage seems to work on and off. but when i does work, it only goes a little pass 1/4 the way. ima swap it with my original one and see.

b20acura

okay so i swaped my old temp guage to my new one and it works fine. but i also swaped my old fuel guage with the new one because of color issues. but now the fuel guage will work on and off. i dont understand why. anyone?

SpEeDyX

that means the new one isnt good, wat were the color issues?

johnny hatchback

sounds like a loose connection, there are only three wires going to the guage... yel/wht (B1) fuel guage unit, blk(d6) ground, yel/blu (d4) power

i've actually taken the gauge out and run the wires right from the plug to the back of the guage and it works. So if the green film is messed up you can run a wire to bypass it or if the wire is loose in the plug maybe you can check that...or on the other end where the fuel guage unit is check the wires and plug there.

S2Integra

Bump. Personal experince in this. The cluster is wired in series with the starter signal fuse. I tested it personally, You cannot start the car w/out the cluster plugged in. Just hook in the three connectors and see if it starts.
This was the reason I had cluster out

b20acura

the new guages are gray and my original one is black. i swaped the both outside guages (fuel and temp.) because they are both black. so its black on the outside and gray on the inside (rpm and speed). i didnt want to just swap the temp guage because then i would have one black on the left and the rest are gray. haha hope all that makes sense.

ill check the wiring but it should be still good. i say that because the green film and the fuel guage were both from my original cluster that worked fine. ill try running it directly to the guage.

b20acura

any write up or "how-to" bypassing the green film?