my new ram air system
07-15-2003, 07:40 AM
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Re: my new ram air system (DOHC B18)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DOHC B18 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">did u break ur turn signal to let more air flow?? hey!! your air box is blue 
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better than pink, besides it's wayy bland under that hood.
</TD></TR></TABLE>better than pink, besides it's wayy bland under that hood.
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07-15-2003, 07:44 AM
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Re: my new ram air system (Sliminem)
The blue looks pretty sharp to me, you planing on going with a blue theme, or just the intake? Should get some blue plug wires or powder coated valve cover, or some blue sway bars or something, that'd be sweet.
Any noticible powerincrease from the ram air?
Any noticible powerincrease from the ram air?
07-15-2003, 07:47 AM
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Re: my new ram air system (Zealot-6)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Zealot-6 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The blue looks pretty sharp to me, you planing on going with a blue theme, or just the intake? Should get some blue plug wires or powder coated valve cover, or some blue sway bars or something, that'd be sweet.
Any noticible powerincrease from the ram air?</TD></TR></TABLE>
I'LL BE DAMNED SOMEONE ASKED ABOUT THE RAM AIR (KINDA THE POINT OF THE POST, NOT THE COLOR OF MY INTAKE). lol yes VERY noticeable gain, especially at higher speed. yea i think i am going to go with a blue theme, seems to look better with black than red.
Any noticible powerincrease from the ram air?</TD></TR></TABLE>
I'LL BE DAMNED SOMEONE ASKED ABOUT THE RAM AIR (KINDA THE POINT OF THE POST, NOT THE COLOR OF MY INTAKE). lol yes VERY noticeable gain, especially at higher speed. yea i think i am going to go with a blue theme, seems to look better with black than red.
07-15-2003, 08:05 AM
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Re: my new ram air system (romeo619romeo)
Did you bore the opening on the bottom of the airbox? Seems awfully small to me to be effective for significant gains.
07-15-2003, 08:14 AM
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Re: my new ram air system (romeo619romeo)
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Not to mention the cut out in the turn signal is asking for ungodly turbulent air.
Look into finding a velocity stack and have it sit outside the turn signal.
Not to mention the cut out in the turn signal is asking for ungodly turbulent air.
Look into finding a velocity stack and have it sit outside the turn signal.
07-15-2003, 08:25 AM
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Re: my new ram air system (StyleTEG)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by StyleTEG »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Not to mention the cut out in the turn signal is asking for ungodly turbulent air.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I'd like to differ.
This is actually very close to the stagnation point on the front of Tegs (Spot of highest pressure where air has to "decide" wether to go over or under the vehicles countour. Good spot for a CAI because the pressure here is higher than where the headlights are, and will promote good induction.
Sliminem: Did you take a dremmel to the <U>inside</U> of the Intake tube that extends from the bottom of the air box? There are a number of restrictions built in to the molding in there (molding flaws and left-overs), and even at the mouth of the airbox. Removing these and smoothing the interior will help decrease pressure loss through your intake.
It's good you didn't seal the intake tube to the turn signal, the flow volume throught the turn signal will be insufficient to feed the engine without complimentary airflow.
Nice job.
I'd like to differ.
This is actually very close to the stagnation point on the front of Tegs (Spot of highest pressure where air has to "decide" wether to go over or under the vehicles countour. Good spot for a CAI because the pressure here is higher than where the headlights are, and will promote good induction.
Sliminem: Did you take a dremmel to the <U>inside</U> of the Intake tube that extends from the bottom of the air box? There are a number of restrictions built in to the molding in there (molding flaws and left-overs), and even at the mouth of the airbox. Removing these and smoothing the interior will help decrease pressure loss through your intake.
It's good you didn't seal the intake tube to the turn signal, the flow volume throught the turn signal will be insufficient to feed the engine without complimentary airflow.
Nice job.
07-15-2003, 08:32 AM
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Re: my new ram air system (WOTTEG)
It is still a rough square cut opening, the air around the turn signal may be stagnent, but once it goes through its going to become turbulent.
Air is going to be forced to make sudden turns instead of smooth ones, and this causes turbulence. Again, you want a velocity stack.
Drawing diagram of the differences, will post when I finish.
Air is going to be forced to make sudden turns instead of smooth ones, and this causes turbulence. Again, you want a velocity stack.
Drawing diagram of the differences, will post when I finish.
07-15-2003, 08:47 AM
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Re: my new ram air system (PatrickGSR94)
Alright, crappy crappy diagram... but you can get the idea..
The gradual entrance of the velocity stack directs air into the pipe with out creating turbulence.
Where the square cuts of the turn signal create turbulence.
The gradual entrance of the velocity stack directs air into the pipe with out creating turbulence.
Where the square cuts of the turn signal create turbulence.
07-15-2003, 09:33 AM
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Re: my new ram air system (StyleTEG)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by StyleTEG »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Not to mention the cut out in the turn signal is asking for ungodly turbulent air.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Sorry, I might have misunderstood. The "lips" still present at the front and rear of the turn signal should be minimized to reduce vortexes entering the intake mouth.
That was a good tip StyleTEG.
Also a strake added a tthe front left of the entrance to the turn signal will encourage airflow to enter the signal instead of going around the side of teh vehicle.
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Sorry, I might have misunderstood. The "lips" still present at the front and rear of the turn signal should be minimized to reduce vortexes entering the intake mouth.
That was a good tip StyleTEG.
Also a strake added a tthe front left of the entrance to the turn signal will encourage airflow to enter the signal instead of going around the side of teh vehicle.
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07-15-2003, 09:48 AM
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Re: my new ram air system (WOTTEG)
Some follow ups modifications to maximize the efficiency of what you have.
1) Trim the lips that protrude at the entrance of the turn signal.
This will minimize vortexes sent into the intake mouth, AND increase the available flow rate through the turn signal.
2) Add a vertical strake to the left edge of the turn signal. (Maybe use a scrap of black ABS plastic or Clear plexiglass.
This will increase pressure at the mouth of the turn signal.
3) Open (cut) the rear of the turn signal such that it's area is >= the area of the intake mouth and the turn signal entrance area.
This will minimize pressure drop prior to the intake mouth.
4) *FORGOT* Take a dremmel to the inside of the lower intake arm, to remove the excess plasic left after the molding process. There is a lot of plastic in there that causes vortexes and a pressure drop through this section of the intake.
This will improve eficiency throughout your system.
again, good job.
Modified by WOTTEG at 1:04 PM 7/15/2003
1) Trim the lips that protrude at the entrance of the turn signal.
This will minimize vortexes sent into the intake mouth, AND increase the available flow rate through the turn signal.
2) Add a vertical strake to the left edge of the turn signal. (Maybe use a scrap of black ABS plastic or Clear plexiglass.
This will increase pressure at the mouth of the turn signal.
3) Open (cut) the rear of the turn signal such that it's area is >= the area of the intake mouth and the turn signal entrance area.
This will minimize pressure drop prior to the intake mouth.
4) *FORGOT* Take a dremmel to the inside of the lower intake arm, to remove the excess plasic left after the molding process. There is a lot of plastic in there that causes vortexes and a pressure drop through this section of the intake.
This will improve eficiency throughout your system.
again, good job.
Modified by WOTTEG at 1:04 PM 7/15/2003
07-15-2003, 09:53 AM
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Re: my new ram air system (WOTTEG)
i have this same setup, and i also have an extra turn signal lying around!
did you use a dremel for this??
it kinda looks like you busted them out...lol
any tips, or anything else i should know??
Thanks!!
did you use a dremel for this??
it kinda looks like you busted them out...lol
any tips, or anything else i should know??
Thanks!!