Milano Red R-81 Double Check
05-31-2004, 08:04 PM
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Re: Milano Red R-81 Double Check (newgsrdriver)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by newgsrdriver »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Why wouldnt it be?</TD></TR></TABLE>
ALL hondas are NOT CC'd you know? Depends on the color.
I was reading somewhere that it was NOT. Meguiars.com, maybe.
It matters how you treat it, wax it, if it is or is not.
And when I was polishing it, the rag got redder and redder.
Which I was told was an indication of a NON-clear coat paint.
I know some of the Whites aren't, at least Frost White isn't.
ALL hondas are NOT CC'd you know? Depends on the color.
I was reading somewhere that it was NOT. Meguiars.com, maybe.
It matters how you treat it, wax it, if it is or is not.
And when I was polishing it, the rag got redder and redder.
Which I was told was an indication of a NON-clear coat paint.
I know some of the Whites aren't, at least Frost White isn't.
05-31-2004, 08:15 PM
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you are definitely not right about the frost white not having a clear coat. It does for sure since i just painted my lip and **** and my brother is a autobody technician. So you might wanna check who is telling you this :0
05-31-2004, 08:34 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by furious94ls »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Every integra off the assembly line has clear coat. </TD></TR></TABLE>
And you know this is a FACT, because?
And you know this is a FACT, because?
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05-31-2004, 09:17 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by MAV3RiCK478 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">my gsr is clear coated for a fact cause its peeling 
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Well, I googled and yahooed. The majority of info I found says IT IS a clear coat.
But I also found a couple that said it wasn't.
Now I'm even more confused.
</TD></TR></TABLE>Well, I googled and yahooed. The majority of info I found says IT IS a clear coat.
But I also found a couple that said it wasn't.
Now I'm even more confused.
05-31-2004, 10:03 PM
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Re: Milano Red R-81 Double Check (4crx4me)
from my understanding milano red is one of those weird ones, where the clear coat actually has color to it. so it's actually a primer then base coat, then a colored/tinted clear coat. the two colors combine to make milano red. thats why it fades so easily and when the clear wears it turns to a lovely pink.
06-01-2004, 02:13 AM
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Re: Milano Red R-81 Double Check (4crx4me)
According to http://www.paintscratch.com, Milano Red is a tricoat/clearcoat. It also shows that Frost White, Championship White, Taffeta White, and Phoenix Yellow are not clearcoated.
06-01-2004, 05:00 AM
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Does anyone here know what clearcoat is? I would be EXTREMELY pissed if I purchased a car that was not clearcoated. Without a clearcoat your paint would be very dull.
06-01-2004, 08:05 AM
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Re: Milano Red R-81 Double Check (furious94ls)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by furious94ls »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Does anyone here know what clearcoat is? I would be EXTREMELY pissed if I purchased a car that was not clearcoated. Without a clearcoat your paint would be very dull. </TD></TR></TABLE>
You obviously DON'T KNOW what it is.
A) Because painting automobiles has been around ALOT longer than CC-ing them has.
B) CC is a relativly NEW process. 20 years old AT BEST.
C) MOST if not all pre-CC auto paint jobs are far more durable and superior to the CC paint jobs, and will look better for far longer.
D) CC is more a ECONOMICAL PROCESS, for auto manufacturers, than old auto paint methods, it IS NOT superior to them.
You obviously DON'T KNOW what it is.
A) Because painting automobiles has been around ALOT longer than CC-ing them has.
B) CC is a relativly NEW process. 20 years old AT BEST.
C) MOST if not all pre-CC auto paint jobs are far more durable and superior to the CC paint jobs, and will look better for far longer.
D) CC is more a ECONOMICAL PROCESS, for auto manufacturers, than old auto paint methods, it IS NOT superior to them.
06-01-2004, 12:17 PM
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Re: Milano Red R-81 Double Check (4crx4me)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 4crx4me »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
You obviously DON'T KNOW what it is.
A) Because painting automobiles has been around ALOT longer than CC-ing them has.
B) CC is a relativly NEW process. 20 years old AT BEST.
C) MOST if not all pre-CC auto paint jobs are far more durable and superior to the CC paint jobs, and will look better for far longer.
D) CC is more a ECONOMICAL PROCESS, for auto manufacturers, than old auto paint methods, it IS NOT superior to them.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I remember reading/hearing that somewhere before too. Can't recall where though.
Clear coat or not, as long as you wash your car correctly, clay bar, polish, wax, etc the paint should still look good for years.
06-01-2004, 01:40 PM
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Ok heres the deal, go to a damn autobody shop and ask them to see a car that has been painted the base coat color (red, blue white etc.) and look at how the paint has NO luster or reflective ability. It is after the clear is applied OVER the base coat, that it will have its reflective properites.
I know because I took autobody just this last semester and my teacher has been painting for 30 years. It is true that some cars don't have a clear coat on them, car like your grandma's 58' caddy. Also there are some cheap paints like a brand called "concept" that have the clear "mixed" in with the base coat. I have talked to people that have used it and it is just used due to its ability to be applied easier without "running" it. I am absoutly positive that ALL hondas that were purchaced in the last 15 years were clearcoated. If there were not the paint would peel and fade in a matter of weeks and it would be dull as hell.
The peeling and fading the previous posters mentioned are due to the lack of proper care such as waxing. You can revive the paint by taking it to a detailer and having the paint buffed. This works by heating the clear a bit and basically filling in the tiny "grooves" and "valleys" and swirls in the clear. Either that or wet sand the clear off with 600-1000 and apply a fresh coat of clear.
I know because I took autobody just this last semester and my teacher has been painting for 30 years. It is true that some cars don't have a clear coat on them, car like your grandma's 58' caddy. Also there are some cheap paints like a brand called "concept" that have the clear "mixed" in with the base coat. I have talked to people that have used it and it is just used due to its ability to be applied easier without "running" it. I am absoutly positive that ALL hondas that were purchaced in the last 15 years were clearcoated. If there were not the paint would peel and fade in a matter of weeks and it would be dull as hell.
The peeling and fading the previous posters mentioned are due to the lack of proper care such as waxing. You can revive the paint by taking it to a detailer and having the paint buffed. This works by heating the clear a bit and basically filling in the tiny "grooves" and "valleys" and swirls in the clear. Either that or wet sand the clear off with 600-1000 and apply a fresh coat of clear.
06-01-2004, 02:02 PM
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EDIT: Just read all about tricoat/ milano red on paintscracth.com.
According to them. R-81 is 3 layer process. 1-pigment layer 2-transparent color layer/ or tinted clearcoat 3- clearcoat.
So I would say my previous info on R-81 WAS WRONG
Unless someone can show me otherwise. Also found this out:
ALL modern automotive paints REQUIRE a clearcoat, now.
Because environmental rules stipulate the way modern paints must be made.
So even if the original paint did not use a clearcoat a modern equivalent does.
Learn something new everyday. Apologies to everyone who said "you do need a clearcoat"
tilt you were right, all along.Modified by 4crx4me at 7:20 PM 6/1/2004
06-01-2004, 02:22 PM
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Re: (4crx4me)
Guys, take a light rubbing compound, like a car scratch remover, and rub the surface lightly. If you have color come off on your rag it is NOT clear coated.
06-01-2004, 02:28 PM
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Re: (WiggiE)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by WiggiE »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Guys, take a light rubbing compound, like a car scratch remover, and rub the surface lightly. If you have color come off on your rag it is NOT clear coated.</TD></TR></TABLE>
See, now this is what I had heard, and my rag turned reddish/ pink. So I assumed R-81 was not clear-coated. But it seems it has a RED TINTED mid-coat. And that could be what's turning the rag red.
See, now this is what I had heard, and my rag turned reddish/ pink. So I assumed R-81 was not clear-coated. But it seems it has a RED TINTED mid-coat. And that could be what's turning the rag red.