gotJDM-DAteg

Hey whats up. I got a DA and I did a SiR II swap about 1 year ago, when I tried to hook up my power steering I discovered that the line wouldn't hook up to the B16 power steering pump (DUH). And me being a dumb-*** decided I wouldn't use it and cut the line and put a bolt in it with a hose clamp so fluid wouldn't squirt all over. Im currently working at an Acura dealer (working my way up to a tech position) and a tech told me its possible for my rack to dry up and quit working. Does anyone know if its possible to put and EF manual rack in my DA.

Thanks

GRAF-FITI

working your way up to tech? not to be an *** but i'm going to guess your current position is lot boy because a tech wouldn't plug a hose with a bolt and a clamp. its a long way up to tech (knowledge, passing certification tests, etc) and you won't get there half-assing things. and the EF rack won't work, get a 90-93 integra RS manual steering rack.

gotJDM-DAteg

Sorry to say but I have an RS (power nothing), and it had power steering. Everything on the car is manual except steering. And I dont do things half-*** it was my only resort at the time! I hope someone with a little more knowlege answeres my post next time. And no im a lube tech, and a few guys I work with started where I am today and their full blown tech's. I know a bit more about hondas than the average joe. Here some advice, (take a moment to think, then speak.)


Modified by gotJDM-DAteg at 10:47 PM 11/16/2006

GRAF-FITI

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you summed it up right there in your own words about yourself. and i did answer your question about the EF rack junior. so next time read, im sure you have plenty of time to go thru a couple magazines while you're attending the lot. i mean if you are going to lie the least you can do is think of something higher up than a lube tech...

gotJDM-DAteg

Oh your right, I dont go to work everyday and do oil changes, tire work, Accessorys, PDIs, lite services, ect. Theres no sutch thing as a lube tech.&lt;--- (sarcasm) Look all a wanted was some advice from some other honda lovers, is that to much to ask for with out the smart *** remarks?

GRAF-FITI

the remarks you get are based upon the statements you make....when you say you did a swap a year ago and plugged the hose with a bolt and a clamp, and are waiting until now to address it, tells me you are a slacker and someone i wouldn't want working on customer vehicles. second, you admitted to being a dumbass, which is evident in the fact that i said YOU are not a lube tech, not that the lube tech position doesn't exist. third, you state you work for a dealer and aspire to be a tech but you're on the internet asking people what to do instead of talking to the techs that are above you who work on these cars all day long. i could give a monkey a pan, a $10 set of cheap tools and a superstreet magazine and he could do the work you do as a "lube tech". don't set youself up to look like an idiot and you won't get ******* responses to your questions, simple as that.

Kyoto now

I was wondering the same thing about the manual steering rack for my DA.......People say they're out there, but I've yet to find one. And for GRAF, Shut the hell up, give the guy a break, he's new just like you were at one point. You don't even know this guy, so to call him a liar about his profession is just salacious slander.

be18see1

yea graf, stfu mang. techs at a dealer dont typically do rack swaps, which is why he is asking people who have.

gotJDM-DAteg

Well thanks for sticking up for me guys. But yeah EF's and DA's have alot more in common than most people think. So i was just wondering the rack was interchangable. Iv also read somewhere theres a way to make a reservoir for the rack so you can keep it lubed. I wonder if theres a write-up out there somewhere.

92DAIntegraXSI

go to g2ic.com theres a few write ups on wat you have to do to make the ef rack work.

GRAF-FITI

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I'm sorry I offended your little buddy, Captain Save-A-Ho. But i will not apologize for his stupidity. I can see plugging a hose like that to get your *** home but there's no reason to leave it for a year...that to me is a HACK, and hacks don't make techs.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by be18see1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yea graf, stfu mang. </TD></TR></TABLE>

follow suit junior, you can be Robin and DA9 purist can be Batman. Don't you guys have anything better to do than stick up for uneducated people on Honda-tech, like saving a tree or tuning your acoustic guitars? Make Love not War you damn hippies. Thats's some salacious slander.

Dogginator

Search for Padawan's PS rack kit. It is designed to keep the rack lubricated in the absence of a PS pump, while allow the fluid to circulate for easier turning. Has your rack had problems yet or is it just difficult to turn?

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by GRAF-FITI &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">working your way up to tech? not to be an *** but i'm going to guess your current position is lot boy because a tech wouldn't plug a hose with a bolt and a clamp. its a long way up to tech (knowledge, passing certification tests, etc) and you won't get there half-assing things. and the EF rack won't work, get a 90-93 integra RS manual steering rack.</TD></TR></TABLE>

You have contributed nothing to this tech thread. Go to GDD or Kills if you want to errantly flame.

GRAF-FITI

gotJDM-DAteg

Sorry, but didn't you tell me to use a 90-93 integra RS manual rack when that dosen't exsist? Mr. smarty pants. Yeah I waited a year and it still steers good. Your making a big deal out of nothing, all i asked was a simple question, quit wasting my time you little bitch.

GRAF-FITI

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by gotJDM-DAteg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Sorry, but didn't you tell me to use a 90-93 integra RS manual rack when that dosen't exsist? Mr. smarty pants. Yeah I waited a year and it still steers good. Your making a big deal out of nothing, all i asked was a simple question, quit wasting my time you little bitch.</TD></TR></TABLE>

i'm sorry but you are sounding a little emotional right now....therefore you are officially cut-off, go to bed. if you don't want to "waste your time" then don't read MY posts you LITTLE "EMO" BITCH.

HoUTX98GSR

i thought there was a way to take a manual civic rack and change some parts over (i forget exactly how its done) then you have a manual rack. I saw it in a magazine once i think.

edit: I just realized this is what you were asking. Its possible, theres just some parts you have to swap.


Modified by HoUTX98GSR at 6:32 PM 11/17/2006

be18see1

thats why there IS honda-tech. it was made so people who dont know what to do, or how to do it, can find out how. its for educated people to help the unducated, not make fun of them.

jfruauff

To answer you first question. Yes sooner or later it will lock up. Some cars faster than others. I have seen many people do this. It will slowly get harder and harder to turn. I know my boys civic has been like that for years and still turns fine but like I said some arent as lucky.

gotJDM-DAteg

yeah i try to keep fluid in it by putting it in the hose that I cut "like a dumb-***" even though if it was hooked up to the pump it pushes fluid into the pump. But it seems to be going some where cause I cap it off and it doesn't come out. But it steers good right now I would just like to fix it because " I don't like doing things half-*** to my car nor anyone elses."

cranny

i did this very same swap not long ago. had very same problem. heres what i did.

use the power steering pump that came with car. bolt that to the B16 brackets. it will fit in the brackets , only the adjuster wing nut will no longer work as it doesnt line up with the hole in the pump through the brackets for B16. but you dont need it. your gonna need washers to make the pullys(pump and crank pully) line up perfect , or make your own spacers, whatever , i used thick washers.

or since you have the B16 pump and it obviously fits the brackets better utilizing the adjuster wingnut , cut the steel part of the line of a B16 power steering line in a spot where the line is straight for at least a little bit to work with , do the same with your DA PS line. cut it on the steel part. use a compression fitting to join the DA line to the B16 line. bolt the line in.

Kyoto now

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Don't you guys have anything better to do than stick up for uneducated people on Honda-tech </TD></TR></TABLE>
Don't you have anything better to do than talk ****, *******. He asked a simple question and expected an answer. Don't be mad because he's working his way up to a tech position at a dealer and your stuck changing clutches on 89' Ford Escorts and still living with your parents. jerk off.

KBG Indey

the easiest way i can see to do this, is to loop the rack

if you turn one way, the remaining fluid in teh rack will come out one direction and flow back into the other side
and vice versa.

you can always intercept the 2 lines and put in a resivour if you want to know how much fluid is in it too i suppose?

cranny

just do what i said , youl be fine. only thing that will be different from stock DA , is the pump is sitting on B16 mounts. DA pump , resovoir , lines , cooler , so on.

91JDM1nt2B

88-91 civic DX & HF manual racks fit in the DA's. There's been a couple people that posted on g2ic that have done it. I'm plannign on doing it.

cranny

why get rid of PS when all you need is a couple washers to make it work , lol.