integra3586

ok before everyone started flaming me, i do not plan on using this so i can do burnouts or anything. i was actually thinking about using one as a anti-theft measure. i was hoping there would be a way to lock up all 4 wheels rather than just 1 or 2.

will this drain my battery? or is it a mechanical way to hold the brakes? does this seem like a feasible idea?

anyone ever do this on a Honda before?

dirtyrican987

i cam here to laugh at you becaue usually its rwd cars that use line lock on their front wheels....

but after reading.. that is a feasible idea assuming it wouldnt drain the battery or something

integra3586

rico91stang

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by B18B-SC &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ok before everyone started flaming me, i do not plan on using this so i can do burnouts or anything. i was actually thinking about using one as a anti-theft measure. i was hoping there would be a way to lock up all 4 wheels rather than just 1 or 2.

will this drain my battery? or is it a mechanical way to hold the brakes? does this seem like a feasible idea?

anyone ever do this on a Honda before?</TD></TR></TABLE>

I'm gonna let you answer this one your own. Your power brakes work primarily through vaccum.

CARMA_626

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What the hell is Linelock?

integra3586

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by rico91stang &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I'm gonna let you answer this one your own. Your power brakes work primarily through vaccum.</TD></TR></TABLE>

aww thanxs buddy, i never knew that.

the brake boosted stores enought vacuum for 2-3 pumps of the brakes after the engine has been shut off. so nice thought but its rejected

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by carma_626 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">What the hell is Linelock?</TD></TR></TABLE>

its a thing rwd cars use to burn out or launch. it locks only the front brakes, so they dont wear out the pads on the rear.

CARMA_626

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by B18B-SC &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Its a thing rwd cars use to burn out or launch. it locks only the front brakes, so they dont wear out the pads on the rear. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Interesting. I'll have to look into this. Using it as a anti theft device sounds like a good idea. Cant steal a car with four locked wheels....

rico91stang

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by carma_626 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Interesting. I'll have to look into this. Using it as a anti theft device sounds like a good idea. Cant steal a car with four locked wheels....</TD></TR></TABLE>

can't lock 4 wheels with no vaccum.


Oh an yes you can steal a car with 4 locked wheels.

integra3586

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by rico91stang &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">can't lock 4 wheels with no vaccum.


Oh an yes you can steal a car with 4 locked wheels. </TD></TR></TABLE>

you're a ****** retard, did you not read my post in regards to this? your brake boosted stores vacuum. you are able to get 2-3 pumps before it firms up after the engine was turned off.

go try it. go push your brakes right now. i bet it feel like normal. but after you push it 1 or 2 more times it will get hard.

if they try to tow it with 4 locked wheels its gonna make a lot of noise. and most thefts don't involve tow trucks


edit:actually you can lock 4 wheels with out vacuum.
a. it just requires more force on the pedal. that's all the vacuum is doing, boosting the pressure to the master cylinder.
b. using a cable method. similar to the parking brake.



Modified by B18B-SC at 11:11 PM 5/24/2006

Uncle Willie

All i can add is that fact that if someone wants ur car bad enough, they will go to any means necessary to get it. Thats why i think ur just wasting ur time. Pay ur full cov insurance and dont worry about ur vehicle. If it gets stolen, u get insurance money. Will you be pissed and make a new h-t thread...of course, who wouldnt be pissed. Its sadly a part of life. I think a car is stolen every 20 seconds, so dont think yours wont be one of them because of something new feature ur adding.

CARMA_626

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by rico91stang &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Oh an yes you can steal a car with 4 locked wheels. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Possible? Yes.

Probable? No.

It is improbable that a car with four locked wheels would get jacked.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RIP Indian Larry &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">All i can add is that fact that if someone wants ur car bad enough, they will go to any means necessary to get it. Thats why i think ur just wasting ur time. Pay ur full cov insurance and dont worry about ur vehicle. If it gets stolen, u get insurance money. </TD></TR></TABLE>

I dont think that's such a good idea dude. Insurance covers a stock car. Which means that my thousands of dollars of mods are *poof*. Not to mention that insurance will give you the current value of the car, NOT what you actually paid for the vehicle. So I would end up with a phat check from the insurance company of only a portion of what I invested in my car. Secondly, what's wrong with going extra steps to protect your car? I mean, with we all can spend so much money and time to fix up our cars, the least we can do is dedicate a equal amount of money and time to protect it. True, if a thief wants your car he'll take it. Does that mean we should go out without a fight?


Modified by carma_626 at 10:16 PM 5/24/2006

integra3586

haha i know exactly what you're saying, sometime i wish i got my car stolen, im really craving an evo right now. but on the other hand, i dont want to just throw all my hard earned money down the drain because some little **** head decided he wanted my car.

plus my ****** insurance deductable is $500 i dont want to have to pay that ****

Sack Master

In all honesty how much battery could a simple line lock solenoid drain? Your alarm would probably drain more. Unfortunatly if your battery went dead then the solenoid would release making it useless. And I'm not sure if those solenoids or your brake lines/plungers are designed to hold that much pressure for that long of a period. I would think eventually you would blow up a brake line or have a caliper go out if the solenoid didn't fail first.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by rico91stang &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">can't lock 4 wheels with no vaccum.
</TD></TR></TABLE>Vacuum has nothing to do with. Brake line pressure does.

integra3586

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Sack Master &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> And I'm not sure if those solenoids or your brake lines/plungers are designed to hold that much pressure for that long of a period. </TD></TR></TABLE>

thats another thing i was wondering. i bet it has some disclaimer in the instructions when you buy a linelock

integra3586

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by k20kev &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">it sounds very useful. tell me how you would move a car with four locked wheels? unless they bust into it. hotwire it and your pedal will fall because the vacuum is working again.</TD></TR></TABLE>

the pedal shouldnt fall any further. if you go test out you brakes right now with the car off, you will be able to go the full stroke of the pedal. until the vacuum runs out in the brake booster. also i believe the solenoid goes in the brake line it self, it doesnt physically push down the pedal.

Uncle Willie

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by carma_626 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

I dont think that's such a good idea dude. Insurance covers a stock car. Which means that my thousands of dollars of mods are *poof*. Not to mention that insurance will give you the current value of the car, NOT what you actually paid for the vehicle. So I would end up with a phat check from the insurance company of only a portion of what I invested in my car. Secondly, what's wrong with going extra steps to protect your car? I mean, with we all can spend so much money and time to fix up our cars, the least we can do is dedicate a equal amount of money and time to protect it. True, if a thief wants your car he'll take it. Does that mean we should go out without a fight?


Modified by carma_626 at 10:16 PM 5/24/2006</TD></TR></TABLE>

I see what ur saying, ur extra $ spent on security may help deter thiefs, but it could also be a waste of money cuz it still could get stolen. Its impossible to tell if and when a car will get stolen.

Since i havent put jack **** for mods for my gsr, all i do is lock the doors and pay my full cov. BTW, i also have 500 deductible. Once again, will i be pissed if my ride gets stolen? expletive ya ill be pissed, 500$ is ALOT of money to me, but sometimes it is impossible to stop a thief.

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by B18B-SC &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

you're a ****** retard, did you not read my post in regards to this? your brake boosted stores vacuum. you are able to get 2-3 pumps before it firms up after the engine was turned off.
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Oh boy here we go. Calling me a retard.


Ok explain to me how you will install a line lock to lock all 4 brakes.

How many of these have you installed?

integra3586

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by rico91stang &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Oh boy here we go. Calling me a retard.


Ok explain to me how you will install a line lock to lock all 4 brakes.

How many of these have you installed?</TD></TR></TABLE>

if you notice i was asking if it was possible to do that. you were the moron saying it would be impossible to lock the wheels because there is no vacuum.

i have installed zero of these, that is the reason for the thread.

pay attention to what you're arguing about

Sack Master

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by rico91stang &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Ok explain to me how you will install a line lock to lock all 4 brakes.
</TD></TR></TABLE>It's easy. A line lock is simply a solenoid that installs on your brake lines inline. All you do is push the brakes in, hit the button and release yoru brake pedal. The pressure in the calipers is held there by the solenoid being closed. The brake pedal at this point is 100% useless. I'm not gonna call anyone names but you don't understand what a line lock does.

rico91stang

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Sack Master &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">It's easy. A line lock is simply a solenoid that installs on your brake lines inline. All you do is push the brakes in, hit the button and release yoru brake pedal. The pressure in the calipers is held there by the solenoid being closed. The brake pedal at this point is 100% useless. I'm not gonna call anyone names but you don't understand what a line lock does. </TD></TR></TABLE>

I have a line lock. It pinches the fluid in the lines preventing it from returning back to the master cylinder.

&lt;---RWD car.


I want to see how you can install one to pinch both the front and rear lines, and keep the fluid there. Not to mention your comment on the damage it would cause.

Sack Master

All you need is a solenoid for the front and one for the rear. Right at the master cylinder. Easy peezy japanesey.... As for damage, I could see that being an issue but it would work no doubt about that.

rico91stang

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Sack Master &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">All you need is a solenoid for the front and one for the rear. Right at the master cylinder. Easy peezy japanesey.... As for damage, I could see that being an issue but it would work no doubt about that.</TD></TR></TABLE>

So how would the solenoids last for more than lets say 20 minutes?

Sack Master

You were the one talking about vacuum and ****. And how the pedal won't work or some ****. I was just pointing out that the pedal and vacuum had nothing to do with it. And the only problem would be failure of some parts. I'm sure the solenoid would last for more than 20 minutes. But I don't know what the consequences would be of doing such a thing.

CARMA_626

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by rico91stang &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

So how would the solenoids last for more than lets say 20 minutes?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Why wouldnt it last more than 20 minutes? Because of the electrical aspect? Would the solenoid lose pressure? What could be damaged by using it for extended periods of time?

I'm new to this Linelock thing, so I would really like to know your take on it....

rico91stang

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Sack Master &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You were the one talking about vacuum and ****. And how the pedal won't work or some ****. I was just pointing out that the pedal and vacuum had nothing to do with it. And the only problem would be failure of some parts. I'm sure the solenoid would last for more than 20 minutes. But I don't know what the consequences would be of doing such a thing.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I mentioned the vacuum not the pedal. Abd the solenoids in all likelyhood wont last that long.