Aaron M

so far i have bought
-base s200 hondata
-virgin p28 ecu
-obd2-1 harness
-skunk2 cam gears

now i just did some pricing and heres what i came up with
-skunk2 cams
-skunk2 valvesprings
-skunk2 im
-hondata gasket
-comptech intake/ice box
-install and tuning
-misc.
$2300

So my question is. WHY DONT I JUST TURBO THIS THING AND CALL IT A DAY?

so far i have i/h/cat/e plus the items that i listed above.

i mean its not to late for me to turbo, i can sell my intake and header n/p, 2.5" cat should be usable right? I can add the boost option to the hondata pretty easily.

heck i can even go the JRSC route right?

iv got 2 roads ahead of me, and one goes pshhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

thanks in advance

HaUTSaauce

i would go pshhhhhhhhhhhh if i were u but thats just my 2 cents

CNSK

puussssssshhhhh......, pussssshhhhhhh........, pusssshhhhhhhhh........, and finally another pussssshhhhh.

-BlueGSR-

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now i just did some pricing and heres what i came up with
-skunk2 cams
-skunk2 valvesprings
-skunk2 im
-hondata gasket
-comptech intake/ice box
-install and tuning
-misc.
$2300

So my question is. WHY DONT I JUST TURBO THIS THING AND CALL IT A DAY?

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Same reason why Im going turbo with minimal boost (7-8 lbs).

intekragsr

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SilverB18C1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">So my question is. WHY DONT I JUST TURBO THIS THING AND CALL IT A DAY?

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lol, I realized this before I bought my 2 gsr's. When you calculate the NA junky stuff, it comes out to the same as even a weak *** greddy kit. AND a weak *** greddy kit will put out more power than most NA setups! Girls love turbos, everyone loves front mounts, who the hell doesnt love blow offs, and omg, the orgasmic sound of turbo spool : P * * * * * * * * * !!!

Plus a greddy kit is more expensive than a ***** out power kit like a drag or rev hard. Sell your I/H and get a turbo. Youve come to realization

The only bad thing about boost is that it is like CRACK! Its addicting, and trust me, you will keep wanting to turn up the boost, no matter what! I started off 2 years ago with a stock *** motor and only planned to do minor things with my setup, and keep it really simple. Now Im aiming for 400whp in the next couple of weeks

Seedc2

iTrader: (1)

its amazing how things add up so quick huh.. then once you jot it down and add the numbers up your face is like ,your wallets like , cars like

Id love turbo.. but i honestly love the sound NA integras. Im just shooting for 200WHP

Aaron M

when i calculated everything in my head, everything felt like it would work out great, then i put it down on paper and was like uhhhhhhhh "im speding all this for 175whp"

i could get a turbo kit for a couple more hundred bux and hit 225whp easy.

hmmmmmmmmm, i really dont know what to do now.

maybe ill get into road racing, since thats 90% driver.....

Aaron M

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SilverB18C1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">so far i have bought
-base s200 hondata
-virgin p28 ecu
-obd2-1 harness
-skunk2 cam gears
$700

now i just did some pricing and heres what i came up with
-skunk2 cams
-skunk2 valvesprings
-skunk2 im
-hondata gasket
-comptech intake/ice box
-install and tuning
-misc.
$2300

So my question is. WHY DONT I JUST TURBO THIS THING AND CALL IT A DAY?

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ok, i went back and priced what i had already bought. so thats $3000 for 175-180whp.............

and this isnt including what i had already paid for my header and intake. thats another $600 right there

$3600 for 175-180whp!!!!!!!!

and a turbo kit goes for about $2800 brand new, add in install and tuning and your at ~$3600

i feel sick

Commodore

think of the reliability factor...

lshobo

if you're looking for just sheer hp and torque numbers or low 1/4 times, then boost will get you there. but with greater boost comes greater responsibility..you'll still have to upgrade your internals.

i think you're doing just fine with the n/a route..if you don't care about the numbers, you can have a quick and fun daily driver. maybe look into getting an r tranny. you have a gsr and it's no n/a slouch if you know how to do it right. gotta love the high revvin all motor madness.

thaiphob

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sound like uncle ben from spider man

lshobo

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sound like uncle ben from spider man </TD></TR></TABLE>

yeah that's exactly what was on my mind as i was typing it. it's a lesson both peter parker and i will never forget.

intekragsr

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and a turbo kit goes for about $2800 brand new, add in install and tuning and your at ~$3600

i feel sick </TD></TR></TABLE>

install and tuning isnt another $800 unless you get raped by the shop on install. If you were local I could install that kit in a day in exchange for lunch or a fraction of the cost a shop charges. Tuning only requires about 2 hours for a street setup, so thats about $300.

neo1z

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install and tuning isnt another $800 unless you get raped by the shop on install. If you were local I could install that kit in a day in exchange for lunch or a fraction of the cost a shop charges. Tuning only requires about 2 hours for a street setup, so thats about $300. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Geez I want to live in SoCal.

(well, then I think about your emissions...and 91 octane...and I feel better)

Aaron M

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install and tuning isnt another $800 unless you get raped by the shop on install. If you were local I could install that kit in a day in exchange for lunch or a fraction of the cost a shop charges. Tuning only requires about 2 hours for a street setup, so thats about $300. </TD></TR></TABLE>

ok so maybe not 800, but $2800(turbo kit)+$500(hondata)+tuning=$3600(cost of going n/a)

B U N M A N G O

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Geez I want to live in SoCal.

(well, then I think about your emissions...and 91 octane...and I feel better)</TD></TR></TABLE>

don't forget about the cops...

hmm supercharger doesn't go "pshhhhhhhh" does it? how much would a good streetable JRSC setup run you?

Understeer

Go for turbo.

I've only added a DIY icebox intake for my engine. Everything else has not been power.

I figured adding an full exaust, and headers will give me minimal gains, yet cost a large fraction of the turbo kit.

Hell, go with the turbo, every turbo car I've driven has been fun, even a sohc d16yz civic boosting at 8lbs was running low 14's.

Aaron M

im stopping at i/h/cat/e

my car is just to get me from point a to point b

MAYBE later on down the road ill tinker with it but for now im more than fine with what i have.

jdm front maybe?

if im going from point a to point b, i should at least look good doing it

threatcon13

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SilverB18C1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">jdm front maybe?

if im going from point a to point b, i should at least look good doing it
</TD></TR></TABLE> true that you jdm hooker

Aaron M

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5 dolla sucky sucky?

B18CYAAA

What would you have to do as far as internals after you bought the turbo kit and hondata?

zigs

I know the position your in I just went through the same and ended up going NA heres a rundown of my costs.
JDM ITR pistons and rings $265
Skunk2 stage 1's and skunk2 cam gears $750
Skunk2 valve springs and retainers $330
Skunk2 intake manifold (used) $200
ITR thorottle body (used) $125
hondata s200 $245
new bearings, water pump, oil pump, top end gasket kit, oil pan gasket, timing belt $550
machine work for block to bore .25 over $unknown is getting done as I type
That added up is $2465 (prob some other things im forgetting) but anyways that is about the same price I could get a good turbo kit for. I decided to go NA for a few reasons one is this is a jdm GSR motor that I just got and havnt even put in the car yet the the conditon the motor is in is unknown to me and this way my $2500 will get me basically a new motor in excellent shape. And the other reason and the most important reason is I know a good turbo kit on 7lbs would put out more HP than my NA setup and be very reliable but I wasnt happy with a stock GSR motor cause I know how much potential it has so why would I be happy running a turbo kit on 7lbs when theres so much more potential there? So I know I would have ended up running more boost and pushing it until it finally blew and then sleeved the block and forged pistons, rods $$$$$ etc... Just my 2cents and why I choose to go NA.