Just bought a "built" integra and need some help..
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Just bought a "built" integra and need some help..
Okay I just bought a 96 integra boosted. I was under the impression that the motor was out of a CRV and built. Now I KNOW it's not out of a CRV, in fact its a NON vtec 90-94 integra motor with the OBD1 ecu. Now the motor is handleing the 17psi well in a .60 trim (so i was told .60) My question is, where on my motor would I find the stamp to determin what it is. Does anyone have a link where I can locate the stamping to the car it belongs to? Is there an advantage in going from the stock motor to the 91 ls motor? is non vtech better on boost than vtec?
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with you hood up and you facing the car. look at the left side of the block near where your headers mates with the head. you should see a little tab with some lettering with a code like Bxxxx. if the block says b20b then it's from a jdm crv. if it says b20bx when it's a udsm 96-98 crv. it's it's b20zx then it's a usdm 99-00 crv. if it's b18b then its a integra ls motor.
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FYI, depending on your BAR laws and since I am not sure, you may not have a legally "Built" ride since the engine is older than the car itself. I believe that you can go with a newer engine but not the other way around. The Engine block will have the type engine stamped on it is. If it is a ls or non-vtec head, then it has no "DOHC VTEC" on it.
Hope you did not get something other than what you paid for..
Hope you did not get something other than what you paid for..
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I doubt in W.V. he has much to worry about any laws with the engine swap. Sounds to me like you shouldnt have bought a "built" car when you dont know the first thing about them....the last thing you want to get involved with is someone else's turbo project if you dont know how to fix stuff.
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Okay I just bought a 96 integra boosted. I was under the impression that the motor was out of a CRV and built. Now I KNOW it's not out of a CRV, in fact its a NON vtec 90-94 integra motor with the OBD1 ecu. Now the motor is handleing the 17psi well in a .60 trim (so i was told .60) My question is, where on my motor would I find the stamp to determin what it is. Does anyone have a link where I can locate the stamping to the car it belongs to? Is there an advantage in going from the stock motor to the 91 ls motor? is non vtech better on boost than vtec?
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wow kids these days ............................
NEVER buy someones project, only more worries for you in the end!
Just from the post above, it seems like you have no right behind the wheel of a turbo Missile.
NEVER buy someones project, only more worries for you in the end!
Just from the post above, it seems like you have no right behind the wheel of a turbo Missile.
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pre obd cars did not come with any vin tags, which, you will never be able to tell which car it came out of.
b18a 90-93 integra ls no vin tags
b18b 94-01 integra ls came with vin tags (2) one on the tranny and one on the block which is hidden behind the headers.
vtec and non vtec heads are as reliable as your tune. you have a crappy tune then everything goes kaboom.
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i would change this to never buy someones project that you do not understand. sometimes built cars are GREAT deals.
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that's incorrect. the vin tags didn't appear until 96 with the obd2 motors.
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Back to the topic, there are are no advantages to going to a 91 ls motor, most likely what happened is he blew the stock one.. Also, this is controversial but in my opinion non vtec is not better than a vtec motor on boost. The stamp can be found on the block, if you can't find that, or it is scratched off. Sell your car, please.
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there's no reason to scratch off the block code, it's not like a vin or anything. i think the reason the op can't find it is cuz he doesn't know **** about the car he bought.
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haha so you all know, I'm not a kid. I'm a nissan master tech. I currenty have a 535 HP s13 powered sr20 BUILT by me. you want me to post an engine build *********? How about a dyno chart would you like that? I dont build hondas for the fact everyone in the honda scene is caught up on their rides and it has their ego above respectable desire.... For those who want to flame that I didnt do my homework its true because this is the reason.
My s13 is a drift car I have 1 seat no interior no dash just a cluster. PERIOD and I will not drive it on the street.
My daily drive was hit going through a red light Friday morning and totaled.
My wife Jeep had a hole come through the radiator and the nearest parts store wouldnt have the part until Monday
All I had left was my magazine featured mini truck. (one of many I have built sence I'm a kid and all) and I refuse to drive the truck in the snow, salt, rain, or ice!
So a guy calls me because I had my mini truck up for sale. He says you interested in a trade. WELL I DIDNT HAVE ANYTHING TO DRIVE so I said yeah email me a tech sheat of the car and some pictures. According to him the b18 (which I know is a base motor the same as b18a b18b) has eagle rods, cp pistons, acl bearings, rings, pressure checked head, and some other things.... So I said sure you come to me you can drive my truck away.... So I was stuck in a spot with little time to research, and nothing to drive...
Sorry for posting a question on this forum, if you all ever want sensable replies come over to 240sxforums.com but no haters!
My s13 is a drift car I have 1 seat no interior no dash just a cluster. PERIOD and I will not drive it on the street.
My daily drive was hit going through a red light Friday morning and totaled.
My wife Jeep had a hole come through the radiator and the nearest parts store wouldnt have the part until Monday
All I had left was my magazine featured mini truck. (one of many I have built sence I'm a kid and all) and I refuse to drive the truck in the snow, salt, rain, or ice!
So a guy calls me because I had my mini truck up for sale. He says you interested in a trade. WELL I DIDNT HAVE ANYTHING TO DRIVE so I said yeah email me a tech sheat of the car and some pictures. According to him the b18 (which I know is a base motor the same as b18a b18b) has eagle rods, cp pistons, acl bearings, rings, pressure checked head, and some other things.... So I said sure you come to me you can drive my truck away.... So I was stuck in a spot with little time to research, and nothing to drive...
Sorry for posting a question on this forum, if you all ever want sensable replies come over to 240sxforums.com but no haters!
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And built is better than bought, true but I built the truck it was traded for so in a respect I traded craftsmanship for, well I thought, craftsmanship. And I have found over many years that buying something built can actually work out much better and cheaper than building it yourself. less money less time no headaces... But this is a honda, I can take the motor apart with a 10mm and a phillips so I dont really care if the car blows in a month in a month. If it does I will sell my drifter build a k20a2 as my little brother already has the a3 block, water pump, timing, a2 crank, a2 head and some other ****.
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alright.... I will get the pics tonight... Here is a link to my photo bucket,
http://s236.photobucket.com/albums/f...tock/Projects/
right now I'm glassing the dash! feel free to browse my pages, right now I only have pics of the dash i'm glassing. But you can find the blue yota I traded it for, and the green one was my very first project. The honda hatch on my first page was the first car I ever owened (when I was 16) that was k20a3 and I hated it so I sold it to my lil brother about a year later... You can find two pictures of me testing out the TPS on my Q45 TB on a greddy intake (first one on the site to do the install.) I've pulled the turbo a week ago (tdo6l2-20G) and had the housings machined and installed a 25G wheel. So if you want to test me go ahead, I'm running brian crower 4340 rods, tomie 87.5mm pistons ACL duraglide bearings, stock head with solid lifters and RAS, TD06l2-20G on dyno, greddy type s BOV, Greddy Spec WG, HKS FMIC, 3" hard pipe, Greddy intake, Q45 TB, all whiteline suspension (no struts yet!)
Man I can make a part list thats 3 pages long I've got so much money tied up in the mechanical part of my 240 its not funny. I'm debating on putting it on the street. I'm considering meth inj. retune my nistune and build a k20 teg...
http://s236.photobucket.com/albums/f...tock/Projects/
right now I'm glassing the dash! feel free to browse my pages, right now I only have pics of the dash i'm glassing. But you can find the blue yota I traded it for, and the green one was my very first project. The honda hatch on my first page was the first car I ever owened (when I was 16) that was k20a3 and I hated it so I sold it to my lil brother about a year later... You can find two pictures of me testing out the TPS on my Q45 TB on a greddy intake (first one on the site to do the install.) I've pulled the turbo a week ago (tdo6l2-20G) and had the housings machined and installed a 25G wheel. So if you want to test me go ahead, I'm running brian crower 4340 rods, tomie 87.5mm pistons ACL duraglide bearings, stock head with solid lifters and RAS, TD06l2-20G on dyno, greddy type s BOV, Greddy Spec WG, HKS FMIC, 3" hard pipe, Greddy intake, Q45 TB, all whiteline suspension (no struts yet!)
Man I can make a part list thats 3 pages long I've got so much money tied up in the mechanical part of my 240 its not funny. I'm debating on putting it on the street. I'm considering meth inj. retune my nistune and build a k20 teg...
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well first of all, all CRV motors are NON vtec, by the way you made your post i am not sure that you knew this, but besides that fact. There isnt much advantage of having the b20 boosted over the b18 boosted, you'll get a little more torque out of it but you'll also be more likely to crack a sleeve due because the b20 sleeve is thinner. If you are running 17 pounds of boost then i would have to say YES this motor IS built. There is no way that a stock b18 or b20 is holding that much boost without snapping a rod bolt; so it at least has rod bolts..which probably means the bottom end is more than likely built unless the person you bought it from is into rigging things together.
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According to him the b18 (which I know is a base motor the same as b18a b18b) has eagle rods, cp pistons, acl bearings, rings, pressure checked head, and some other things.... So I said sure you come to me you can drive my truck away.... So I was stuck in a spot with little time to research, and nothing to drive...
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