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Old 11-04-2004, 10:10 PM
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hey whats goin on. i was wonderin what you guys think about havin a itr motor swapped into a 2nd gen teg. is this dooable? and is it worth it? im getting my license next year and just thought this would be somethin cool to do. what do you think?
Old 11-04-2004, 10:13 PM
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everythings doable.

i saw a mean gen1 with an ITR motor / tranny. Wow. dont **** with that

If u want to do it, do it.
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If you are to ask this question its probably not "doable" for you. If you can put a 502 chevy into a harley davidson I would think you could fit a motor in a car that is almost exactly the same size as the previous motor.
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A B18C5 in a DA is almost a direct fit, minus wiring, pumping issues, and a few other things...
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by evolve &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">A B18C5 in a DA is almost a direct fit, minus wiring, pumping issues, and a few other things...</TD></TR></TABLE>

not really. depending upon which transmission he wants to use it can be a headache.


if youre asking the question wether or not the motor can be put in, i suggest you do more research to see if youre willing to do it or now. check out http://www.g2ic.com
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But he didn't mention the transmission...
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What you are talking about is not going to be cheap, you are going to be needing at least 6000$ for this project . Not only will it cost you around 4-5 thousand for the b18c5 engine, but the other small modifications that you have to do as well.As evolve said, its a direct fit but you will need to modify your wiring and a small list of other things for everyrthing to work right. Ive seen a thread on H-T one time, but im not sure... use the search button at the top to your advantage, and i would search for "b18 swap into a DA" or something along those lines... as im sure that your not the only one who has swapped a b18 into a DA. And may i ask why you are doing this, and i hope your car is clean, got any pics?? If your car is in bad shape, then why not put the money into getting g3 teg... LS or gsr ^_^
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SOmbooTy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">What you are talking about is not going to be cheap, you are going to be needing at least 6000$ for this project . Not only will it cost you around 4-5 thousand for the b18c5 engine, but the other small modifications that you have to do as well.As evolve said, its a direct fit but you will need to modify your wiring and a small list of other things for everyrthing to work right. Ive seen a thread on H-T one time, but im not sure... use the search button at the top to your advantage, and i would search for "b18 swap into a DA" or something along those lines... as im sure that your not the only one who has swapped a b18 into a DA. And may i ask why you are doing this, and i hope your car is clean, got any pics?? If your car is in bad shape, then why not put the money into getting g3 teg... LS or gsr ^_^</TD></TR></TABLE>

aww man, shut the **** up. I'm usually not a bitch to anyone, but the last sentences are just ******* stupid. The DA (usdm) already has a b18. It's a b18a(1), they don't come w/ b18c's.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by chitwn91rs &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

aww man, shut the **** up. I'm usually not a bitch to anyone, but the last sentences are just ******* stupid. The DA (usdm) already has a b18. It's a b18a(1), they don't come w/ b18c's.</TD></TR></TABLE>

true.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by T3mp3sT &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">everythings doable.

i saw a mean gen1 with an ITR motor / tranny. Wow. dont **** with that

If u want to do it, do it. </TD></TR></TABLE>

is that worse (better/faster) then a hb civic with itr swap
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Dropping a B18c5 in a 2nd gen Integra would ROCK! And if I'm correct, they weigh a little less than the 3rd gens...and in my opinion they look better. You'll need someone who'll know how to wire the vtec and knock sensor wires...and the OBD-II or OBD-II to OBD-I conversion. You also may want to get the tranny conversion (cable to hydrolic)...which goes for around $150-$250 unless you want to use your LS tranny
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DavidT &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Dropping a B18c5 in a 2nd gen Integra would ROCK! And if I'm correct, they weigh a little less than the 3rd gens...and in my opinion they look better. You'll need someone who'll know how to wire the vtec and knock sensor wires...and the OBD-II or OBD-II to OBD-I conversion. You also may want to get the tranny conversion (cable to hydrolic)...which goes for around $150-$250 unless you want to use your LS tranny </TD></TR></TABLE>

yup.. if you use an LS tranny with an ITR motor.. let me know so i can fart on your face.

cuz thats a waste of a completely good motor
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well just to clear things up a bit im only 15 and i dont have a car yet BUT my sister has a 92 teg gs which i will be gettin soon enough but its auto.. and its really beat up(rusted, interior, spoiler isnt properly attached) other than that it runs pretty good. so im planning on selling it and buying another one thats cheaper and in better condition. im getting a job pretty soon working with my parents that pays $50/day which isnt bad condsidering i have about 2 years to save up for this swap and my parents might help me out paying for some of this as well. i really have my mind set on this swap and i have a friend who can help me out on it as well (he recently just swapped an si motor into his da9). so now my question is.. what would you guys reconmend i do about the tranny if i dont use the stock one? would i have to buy a new tranny along with the motor?
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Yes, yes, yes, and yes on a new tranny. Have fun looking for a clean and well kept DA that someone actually wants to sell. I got lucky and found one with super low miles on my 93 DA, and have thought about an ITR swap, but thats too much money for just the motor swap. With that amount of money you can do a fairly nice LS/Turbo setup, which I have opted to going towards, seeing how my car will still have under 80K original miles. Just hit 57K this morning.]

Since your going to be messing with the G2er's I suggest this website http://www.g2ic.com Talk to the right people on here and you can learn alot about the 90-93 Integras. Im sure this topic has been covered extensively there. Again, http://www.g2ic.com or even maybe someone on http://www.team-integra.net might be able to help with the DA/ITR Motor and tranny swap.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SOmbooTy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">What you are talking about is not going to be cheap, you are going to be needing at least 6000$ for this project . Not only will it cost you around 4-5 thousand for the b18c5 engine, but the other small modifications that you have to do as well.As evolve said, its a direct fit but you will need to modify your wiring and a small list of other things for everyrthing to work right. Ive seen a thread on H-T one time, but im not sure... use the search button at the top to your advantage, and i would search for "b18 swap into a DA" or something along those lines... as im sure that your not the only one who has swapped a b18 into a DA. And may i ask why you are doing this, and i hope your car is clean, got any pics?? If your car is in bad shape, then why not put the money into getting g3 teg... LS or gsr ^_^</TD></TR></TABLE>

well maybe he has rich parents.. to back his income up.. but you got your 411 wrong! DA TEGs came w/ b18a1 so no need to drop a b18 on it, except swap that engine out for a better one b18c5...

FRESHVIBES: sell your sis car and just get another g2TEG... its a great car..trust me i have 2 of them and looking for more=P... and better looking than the g3 IMO(except the jdm itr)
back on the subject &gt; it would be nice if you can get a b16 YS1 short geared tranny (since you got a cable tranny car) w/ LSD =P *DROOL along w/ that b18c5
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I would just do a Type R motor matted to my S1 trans. I like to keep cable. I've driven hydro and it just feels weird.

But all in all, a few of my buddies have type r motors in their g2s and it pulls like no tomorrow.
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BTW A second generation 'teg weights in roughly the same as an ITR. So, what low 15 to high 14's..."factory" components
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the itr swap couldnt be THAT diff then a b17 that comes int he gen 2 gsr . . .

it wouldnt be harder to do that swap then in a civic hatch IMO
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There's a guy on here that owns a teal green DA with an ITR motor in it. It has Sprint Hart CPRs on it and is all Mugened out. I dont know his name, but I can find out for ya.....Also, do a search for Jason Haradon. He's the guy with the white 92 DA that has Mugen everything.

He has a built B18C5 in his DA. He might be able to help you with the tranny issue. I know he's running an ITR tranny in his DA. I do know you may have to convert the car to hydro clutch.

Just for search Jason Haradon....if it helps..his car was featured in Super Street...white DA with white Mugen RNRs
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check out http://www.g2ic.com dan(a moderator) from portland has a red DA with a b18c5 and it's built.
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First of all this swap is very easy and the only real expensive parts is the engine it self.The sencond gen tegs comes with a B18a1. What your doing is changing from one B series to another. You also don't need to convert the car to OBD-2 the car can stay OBD-0 (90-91) DA's or OBD-1 (92-93) da's. You will be using the cars original wire harness and a coresponding OBD-0 PR3 ecu chiped for ITR duties and a p-28, P-08 chiped for ITR duities. The distributor you can use the stock LS distributor just cut the leg that will hit the vtec solenoid off or you can look for a B16 obd-0 or obd-1 distributor. If your car is OBD-0 you will need to use the alternator that came with your motor. The rest is just chosing if you want to run a cable B16 trany or stay with the Hydro ITR and buy a cable to hydrolic converion or convert the car to hydrolic clutch dotties. The DA teg already comes with a B series motor so you will be using all the original mounts and brakets, along with power stering pump you will have to run a VTEC head uper power stering pump braket, but you can use the stock A/c compresor braket and compresor. Also depending on what trany you run you will need to use a coresponding intermidiate shaft. Cable trany with a Cable intermidiate shaft hydrolic trany to a hydrolic intermidiate shaft.You can run the stock axels but if you run the hydro trany and intermidiate shat you will need to change the driver side iner joint to a female iner joint. The only thing that you need for this is the iner joint cup not the bearing the cup will slide right onto the DA bearins. I think i covered everything.
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