Cripton805

As far as I know here are the things you need for the 94-95 GSR swap into your DA.

To Swap:
Engine (OBD1)
ECU (P72 OBD1)
OBD0 to OBD1 Jumper Harness

Re-use Mounts
Re-use Tranny

If you want to switch to a hydro Trans theres a conversion kit to swap out the cable trans. (personally I like the Cable)
or get a JDM B16 Cable trans (i like)

Get the engine Bar'D as of 2010. I hear its legal to swap JDM motors again in CA.

To get Reff...
USDM ECU (P72 OBD1)
USDM Intake Manifold or aftermarket with C.A.R.B.
Stock header or aftermarket with C.A.R.B.
Cat Converter for same year engine motor (94 or 95 GSR)
No check Engine light


I think thats all you need. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Phone Number to state Reff
800-622-7733

I hear its less than $10 and its unlimited tries.
They will tell you where the nearest reff is located.


I think OBD1 GSR will be easier to pass because the newer engine the more requirements. So I hear. OBD2 is harder to pass. I might be wrong.

Good Luck!

Cripton805

Anyone find this helpful?

()0()Miklo

Very helpful, I have been wanting to BAR my DA for a while now. When did you do yours?

nsxter

bar is free, and you heard wrong you cannot bar jdm motors they can only be used as replacement motors

Cripton805

Is what you mean that the engine must be in the car and emmissions must be to standard?
Or what?

Cripton805

I havent done mine yet. I hope to do it by the end of this year. My engine runs nice. I just want something newer and smoother. Its just going to have CARB legal bolt ons. Ill be satisfied and it will be legal!

Cripton805

I read somewhere that someone just recently "April or so" did a GSR swap into their EK and it was $8 unlimited tries.

They say that people can drop most motors unless its somthing like a B20 because its an SUV type motor.

nsxter

i just bar'd my car 4 days ago and it was free and i also bar'd a del sol with a h22 a year ago and it was also free

Cripton805

I think I know what youre referring to. As of 2010 you can now drop them into other cars. Therefore you can place them in EKs, EGs, DAs, DCs, etc...

It was illegal way back 2009

Cripton805

So what do you mean by replacement motors>?
GSR = B18C
LS = B18B
They have to match?

I read tha now you can,
EK = B18C
or
DA = B18C

whatever you want now pretty much. As long as emmissions are good and visual.

nsxter

what i meant by replacement is say you want a jdm gsr in your ek you would first have to bar the ek with a usdm b18c1 then after you get the bar sticker on your car then you can legally replace it with the jdm gsr b18c

and you could never bar jdm motors it was all ways illegal but most ref's looked the other way but now there watched even more so as of aug 2008 ref's that were looking the other way are no longer doing so

all the ref checks is visuals now , but for anything obd2 the also scan the ecu

Cripton805

Thats strange. Ill have to read up on that because I heard that as of 2010 you can do JDM as long as you have the emmision parts. USDM ECU, Manni, and Cat etc... It will pass smog. USDM Emmisions

DumaDA

they dont smog the car?

Cripton805

Im guessing they have to. it would be stupid if they didnt

DumaDA

yeah i know thats why i questioned what he said, i probably just misread it

Cripton805

Yeah. And im pretty sure you can make JDM legal too now. Maybe hes right that the reff turn heads. IDK

nsxter

due to budget cuts in cali they dont smog the car just a visual inspection and labeling , and yes most refs will no longer bar jdm motors they were never suppose to but like i said they would just turn there head, i have bar'd 4 car's its very easy to do

da9licious

i'm so glad i don't live in california

nsxter

why its not as bad as people make it seem

EGj3rr

i BAR'D my 92 civic eg with a 2nd gen jdm b16 just recently like lil over 2 months ago. i did it at south western college in SOCAL. just needed to change over from obo to ob1 with usdm ecu, and make sure u have all the sensors a usdm motor would have along with no check engine light

Cripton805

It was JDM though right? People keep arguing that it has to be USDM and I tell them you can do the motor with USDM Emmision parts.

nsxter

just because people get **** done dosent make it legal , jdm motors are not suppose to be bar'd but do people get it done yes, just like right hand drive cars just because there registered dosent make then legal

Cripton805

Sure, I get your point. What are the Reffs there for then? Nothing if they let you get past inspection. Im going to call State Reff to find out to clear this mess up.

Cripton805

I just got off the phone with the State and she reffered me to this...

http://www.bar.ca.gov/80_BARResource...uidelines.html

Nowhere does it say that imported engines are illegal. All they care about is Emmisions and that the engine is not polluting the enviorment.

I spent an hour talking to a Reff and he said that they have to have all the emmision standard. Pretty much everything that I have already stated because it would technically now be considered a GSR regardless of the Make and Model of the shell. He did state that you CANT put Suv motors in a car, diesel, or off road.

Im making the assumption that it is legal. If you do it right and everything is legit. He said its considered an UPGRADE not modification. Its really important to get those USDM parts or CARB legal with proof. Hope this helps.

Cripton805

Can you tell me the city so I can make a phone call or head over and have hard concrete evidence? I would like to know including many people out there. There is not enough info out there or people that know for sure what you CAN or CANT do. I want to clear this up once and for all. And so I can get started on my swap soon, but I wont do it if its illegal. Im not going to spend hundreds of dollars smogging and keeping it on the DL if its illegal.