Good thing we drive imports eh?
02-21-2006, 01:41 PM
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Good thing we drive imports eh?
http://www.consumeraffairs.com...s.htm
sampels of fires in 2006.
The damage caused by Ford's fire-prone trucks is immense, as our growing collection of complaints demonstrates. Consumers have lost their lives, livelihoods, homes and, of course, their trucks.
Mehdi Rezazadeh of Danville CA (02/14/06)
The 1997 F 150 parked for 3 days in my driveway caught fire. Tomorow I will call NHTSA and Ford. I think it was the cruise control heating up when parked. Thanks god it was parked in my gated driveway and not inside my house.
David of San Antonio TX (02/10/06)
On Jan. 10 at 2:00 a.m., my son awoke us to tell me our 2000 Ford F-150 was on fire. We called the fire department and used a hose til they arrived. My truck was a total loss. It was my business truck. My tools are in the back yard and I have not worked in a month. No answer from Ford.
My truck is still parked in front of my door at home, 12 feet away. Thank God, our house did not burn. My bank account is empty and my payments are behind on the truck. I cannot even focus somedays. it is always the little guy that gets the ... you know what.
Lee of Chapel Hill NC (02/09/06)
The same cruise control/brake switch part failure causing fires in F-150 trucks is used on 95 Windstars. I experienced a fire in the connection from corrossion and leaking within the switch. There were no indications that a dangerous fire causing leak was occuring. There was no leaking brake fluid anywhere. Fortunately, due to wet weather and cold temperatures the fire was contained to the switch plug and wires. Had the failure occured in summer rather than February, we would have lost the vehicle to a fire, perhaps while driving at highway speed.
Steve of Hilton Head Island SC (02/02/06)
On January 26, 2006 at 3am in 33-degree weather our 1998 Ford Explorer exploded in flames causing my 1994 Buick Century to go up in flames. Both cars were in the driveway for 15 hours due to our family having a stomach flu and not leaving the house for anything. The fire investigator ruled the fire as "unknown causes" although he states that the fire started in the engine of the Explorer and no arson or foul play was involved. Both cars were totalled.
Sue of Greenville NC (01/30/06)
It seems awful odd how Ford can recall a part on nearly 1 million vehicles for a definate fire hazard, but just because I purchased the vehicle that only sells approx. 5000 a year (Excursion) they will not recall it. It is the same part number and everything, that is in the Pick-up trucks. My vehicle was very close to having a major & Dangerous fire last Friday. The only thing that saved us, was a slight burning smell prior to us leaving the parking lot. FORD MUST CLEAN UP THE ACT.
sampels of fires in 2006.
The damage caused by Ford's fire-prone trucks is immense, as our growing collection of complaints demonstrates. Consumers have lost their lives, livelihoods, homes and, of course, their trucks.
Mehdi Rezazadeh of Danville CA (02/14/06)
The 1997 F 150 parked for 3 days in my driveway caught fire. Tomorow I will call NHTSA and Ford. I think it was the cruise control heating up when parked. Thanks god it was parked in my gated driveway and not inside my house.
David of San Antonio TX (02/10/06)
On Jan. 10 at 2:00 a.m., my son awoke us to tell me our 2000 Ford F-150 was on fire. We called the fire department and used a hose til they arrived. My truck was a total loss. It was my business truck. My tools are in the back yard and I have not worked in a month. No answer from Ford.
My truck is still parked in front of my door at home, 12 feet away. Thank God, our house did not burn. My bank account is empty and my payments are behind on the truck. I cannot even focus somedays. it is always the little guy that gets the ... you know what.
Lee of Chapel Hill NC (02/09/06)
The same cruise control/brake switch part failure causing fires in F-150 trucks is used on 95 Windstars. I experienced a fire in the connection from corrossion and leaking within the switch. There were no indications that a dangerous fire causing leak was occuring. There was no leaking brake fluid anywhere. Fortunately, due to wet weather and cold temperatures the fire was contained to the switch plug and wires. Had the failure occured in summer rather than February, we would have lost the vehicle to a fire, perhaps while driving at highway speed.
Steve of Hilton Head Island SC (02/02/06)
On January 26, 2006 at 3am in 33-degree weather our 1998 Ford Explorer exploded in flames causing my 1994 Buick Century to go up in flames. Both cars were in the driveway for 15 hours due to our family having a stomach flu and not leaving the house for anything. The fire investigator ruled the fire as "unknown causes" although he states that the fire started in the engine of the Explorer and no arson or foul play was involved. Both cars were totalled.
Sue of Greenville NC (01/30/06)
It seems awful odd how Ford can recall a part on nearly 1 million vehicles for a definate fire hazard, but just because I purchased the vehicle that only sells approx. 5000 a year (Excursion) they will not recall it. It is the same part number and everything, that is in the Pick-up trucks. My vehicle was very close to having a major & Dangerous fire last Friday. The only thing that saved us, was a slight burning smell prior to us leaving the parking lot. FORD MUST CLEAN UP THE ACT.
02-21-2006, 02:08 PM
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ahahahahah this is hella funny!!!!! because i am a security gaurd..and our security truck is a ford...and guess what!!! it just burnt down a few months ago...they it could be a electrical fire. but..this explains alot now lol..funny thing is we got a new truck..and its another ford ahahaah!!!
02-21-2006, 03:36 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Lauj87 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ahahahahah this is hella funny!!!!! because i am a security gaurd..and our security truck is a ford...and guess what!!! it just burnt down a few months ago...they it could be a electrical fire. but..this explains alot now lol..funny thing is we got a new truck..and its another ford ahahaah!!!</TD></TR></TABLE>
lol, if I bought one POS Ford and it burnt down for some unknown reason, why the hell would I buy another one???
You might wanna think about who your working for....
lol, if I bought one POS Ford and it burnt down for some unknown reason, why the hell would I buy another one???
You might wanna think about who your working for....
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02-21-2006, 05:40 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JH4DC4-2GSR »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i think we should have "rent-a-jdm" engineer service for american car builders</TD></TR></TABLE>
02-21-2006, 09:02 PM
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Re: (JH4DC4-2GSR)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">american engineering at its best lemme tell ya...sometimes i wonder about ourselves.. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Don't be too quick to blame the engineers. Most fuckups can be blamed on management and accountants. The plain and simple fact is that the upper management of American corporations cares only about the bottom line and the stock price, and they don't care one whit about the quality of products they sell. They also don't care about the reputation they build for their company, because that's a long-term worry, and they'll have already left the company with their golden parachute before the **** hits the fan. Case in point: who was the CEO for Ford in 1995 when this started? Jacques Nassar. Where is he now? He's taken off, to go ruin some other company I guess; he's not at Ford any more.
From what I can tell, Japanese corporations don't operate in this way at all. They're much more long-term in their outlook, and they care a lot about their companies' reputations, and about producing quality products. When you buy a Japanese product, you probably don't have to worry much about them cutting corners on it in order to improve their 4th-quarter earnings report. In America, running a corporation is all about maximizing short-term profit, without thinking for a second about how current actions will affect the company in the long term.
Don't be too quick to blame the engineers. Most fuckups can be blamed on management and accountants. The plain and simple fact is that the upper management of American corporations cares only about the bottom line and the stock price, and they don't care one whit about the quality of products they sell. They also don't care about the reputation they build for their company, because that's a long-term worry, and they'll have already left the company with their golden parachute before the **** hits the fan. Case in point: who was the CEO for Ford in 1995 when this started? Jacques Nassar. Where is he now? He's taken off, to go ruin some other company I guess; he's not at Ford any more.
From what I can tell, Japanese corporations don't operate in this way at all. They're much more long-term in their outlook, and they care a lot about their companies' reputations, and about producing quality products. When you buy a Japanese product, you probably don't have to worry much about them cutting corners on it in order to improve their 4th-quarter earnings report. In America, running a corporation is all about maximizing short-term profit, without thinking for a second about how current actions will affect the company in the long term.
02-21-2006, 09:35 PM
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Re: (JH4DC4-2GSR)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JH4DC4-2GSR »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i think we should have "rent-a-jdm" engineer service for american car builders</TD></TR></TABLE>
dude, thats the best idea i've heard in years!
dude, thats the best idea i've heard in years!
02-21-2006, 09:38 PM
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Ford actually do care about their reputation. The reason why they didn't mention this massive recall for their defective product was because they don't want the news to get out.
So they do care about their image. They just suck at doing anything about. And guess what, everytime something bad happends to america, guess what, sales of their trucks go up cause it is very PATRIOT to buy american.
Thats how the Hummer sales went up after 9/11. They even faked their own hate crime against the Hummer to boost its sales.
Anyways, I will never buy an American car simply because I don't see myself drving in one. Not because of the rep or anything, just because I don't like the style of it.
My top 5 cars I am looking at for my next ride are all imports.
* Infinity G35
* BMW M3
* Acura TL
* Lexus IS300
* BMW 300 series
And if I hit the lotto;
* Lambo
* Acura NSX
* Fararri
So they do care about their image. They just suck at doing anything about. And guess what, everytime something bad happends to america, guess what, sales of their trucks go up cause it is very PATRIOT to buy american.
Thats how the Hummer sales went up after 9/11. They even faked their own hate crime against the Hummer to boost its sales.
Anyways, I will never buy an American car simply because I don't see myself drving in one. Not because of the rep or anything, just because I don't like the style of it.
My top 5 cars I am looking at for my next ride are all imports.
* Infinity G35
* BMW M3
* Acura TL
* Lexus IS300
* BMW 300 series
And if I hit the lotto;
* Lambo
* Acura NSX
* Fararri
02-22-2006, 12:51 AM
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Re: Good thing we drive imports eh? (Wayne_Curr)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Wayne_Curr »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Um, GDD?
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I was just telling my dad about this thread,and he said that they had an old car called the "Pinto" that blew up when it was rear-ended. And Ford kept the car in production for years like this before "fixing" it....He said it was really well-known 'back in the day' about them being POS's
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Re: Good thing we drive imports eh? (foulmint)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Ghettokracker71 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">stupid fords....
For only retarded drivers.
****** Only Runs Downhill
and so on</TD></TR></TABLE>
..heres one
Found On Road Dead
For only retarded drivers.
****** Only Runs Downhill
and so on</TD></TR></TABLE>
..heres one
Found On Road Dead
02-23-2006, 06:19 PM
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Re: Good thing we drive imports eh? (Tornadom)
Fix Or Repair Daily
You know what the problem with Ford is?...They circled it
I am a mechanic. I get to work on pretty much every differrent kind of car. Anything from a mid-80's pos Escort, to a brand new Jag Type R, with 400hp! (very nice BTW, but for $70,000, it better be...and its fast!) Anyway, I've worked on Hondas, Toyotas, Nissans with 180,000+mile on them, then I drive a Ford or Chevy with 75,000 miles on it, and I tell you what, the american car is always in worse condition. Like today for instance. I worked on a '98 Cadillac STS, with 80,000 miles on it. It was taken care of also. It was clean inside and out. Prestine condition. The coolant was leaking, the power steering pump was whining it's *** off, the tie rod ends, along with the wheel bearings were bad...the list goes on. Then I worked on a 1993 Honda Accord, with 145,000 miles on it. It was beat up, and the fluids were dirty, but at least nothing was broken, or worn.
Bottom line...I wouldn't buy American if someone paid me to. I'll take my Integra, or at least something Honda anyday.
Modified by loudassVTEC at 7:42 PM 2/23/2006
You know what the problem with Ford is?...They circled it
I am a mechanic. I get to work on pretty much every differrent kind of car. Anything from a mid-80's pos Escort, to a brand new Jag Type R, with 400hp! (very nice BTW, but for $70,000, it better be...and its fast!) Anyway, I've worked on Hondas, Toyotas, Nissans with 180,000+mile on them, then I drive a Ford or Chevy with 75,000 miles on it, and I tell you what, the american car is always in worse condition. Like today for instance. I worked on a '98 Cadillac STS, with 80,000 miles on it. It was taken care of also. It was clean inside and out. Prestine condition. The coolant was leaking, the power steering pump was whining it's *** off, the tie rod ends, along with the wheel bearings were bad...the list goes on. Then I worked on a 1993 Honda Accord, with 145,000 miles on it. It was beat up, and the fluids were dirty, but at least nothing was broken, or worn.
Bottom line...I wouldn't buy American if someone paid me to. I'll take my Integra, or at least something Honda anyday.
Modified by loudassVTEC at 7:42 PM 2/23/2006
02-28-2006, 07:31 PM
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Re: Good thing we drive imports eh? (Tornadom)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Tornadom »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I will always own at least one Honda/Acura car.</TD></TR></TABLE>
im with you
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by saveflee »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
And if I hit the lotto;
* Lambo
* Acura NSX
* Fararri
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Ferrari*
im with you <TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by saveflee »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
And if I hit the lotto;
* Lambo
* Acura NSX
* Fararri
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Ferrari*
02-28-2006, 07:42 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Ghettokracker71 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">stupid fords....
For only retarded drivers.
****** Only Runs Downhill
and so on</TD></TR></TABLE>
DROF
Driver Returns On Foot.. hehe
yeah tho, this goes in GDD man..
For only retarded drivers.
****** Only Runs Downhill
and so on</TD></TR></TABLE>
DROF
Driver Returns On Foot.. hehe
yeah tho, this goes in GDD man..
02-28-2006, 07:45 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by saveflee »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
My top 5 cars I am looking at for my next ride are all imports.
* Infinity G35
* BMW M3
* Acura TL
* Lexus IS300
* BMW 300 series
And if I hit the lotto;
* Lambo
* Acura NSX
* Fararri </TD></TR></TABLE>
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by VTEC Genetics »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Ferrari* </TD></TR></TABLE>
no Mclaren?
My top 5 cars I am looking at for my next ride are all imports.
* Infinity G35
* BMW M3
* Acura TL
* Lexus IS300
* BMW 300 series
And if I hit the lotto;
* Lambo
* Acura NSX
* Fararri </TD></TR></TABLE>
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by VTEC Genetics »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Ferrari* </TD></TR></TABLE>
no Mclaren?
02-28-2006, 07:50 PM
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Just because it's an American company doesn't mean that American cars suck. I'm sure if this exact same type of situation happened to a Honda you would think otherwise.