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Old 09-23-2009, 09:12 AM
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I tried searching, but I think my problem might be a bit specific, and I have to get this running smooth by the end of tomorrow. Hell, if there is anyone near the Spokane area, I'd gladly pay if you were to help me get this going.

Anyway.... I have a 1990 Integra, still OBD-0, and I'm in an area where no one knows imports.....

I just got done putting this engine in my car, and it's having quite a problem.

I got it to turn on and run, but it can't idle, it just dies out. It shakes a lot while trying to start up.

It is sounds like a loud Subaru as well.

One thing I know, is that there is what I think is fuel coming out the #2 exhaust port. I know it's getting spark, because if I pull out the wire, it can hardly run at all. Injector stuck open?

The engine is a B18b with a 90 Head on it. Everything is stock minus the throttle body. It doesn't have the charcoal canister hooked up either.

When I'm holding the idle up, I don't get any check engine lights. I haven't put coolant in it yet, as I can't even get it to idle as to bleed the system when it's in.
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It is possible that the injector is stuck open. I had a resistor go bad when I was running 450 cc injectors and had a similar situation with the exhaust port filling up with fuel. Pull the plugs and inspect.
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I pulled the plug and tried to turn it over a little while ago, and it wouldn't idle or hardly run, just shook a lot and I think fuel was being shot out the plug hole.

I'm pretty new when it comes to changing engines. I mainly do everything else, heh. =\
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hmmm, are you sure the motor is good? i'm not trying to scare you, but you may want to consider doing a compression or leak down test...

when i've seen cars sound like a Subby, it's usually lost compression in one cylinder (ie: blown motor).
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Oh it's making compression in the #2 cylinder, it's just spitting A LOT of fuel. Stuck injector is my guess. I heard that on the 90 Integra's, you don't have to jump the clip for the ECU to blink a code to you. When I turned the key to "ON" it just gives one normal blink the second I turn it to on. No more, just that one. Then when I turn it off to take out the key, it blinks once then too.
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Scratch what I wrote above, I wasn't doing it right, haha. Anyway...

I switched out the number 2 injector, still get that crap out the exhaust, but I don't know if it's fuel or just Gasoline + Air = Carbon Dioxide + Water mixed with black soot, making it black.... Dunno.

Anyway, I guess the car had to be running to get the CEL code to read.

And the CEL code is 16. One Long blink, and 6 short ones. That means one of my injectors are bad. Or could it be the resistor box itself?
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My b18c1 did this after i bent some exhaust valves in cyll number 3
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hmmm, are you sure the motor is good? i'm not trying to scare you, but you may want to consider doing a compression or leak down test...

when i've seen cars sound like a Subby, it's usually lost compression in one cylinder (ie: blown motor).
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The CEL code went away after I plugged it back in and started it a few times. My step brother is a certified mechanic, and he's going to drop by after work with a compression tester and get to work. But this is also a rebuild. And you could crank it by hand with a wrench, and I'm sure no valves are bent.
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mines sounds the same man. i don't know what's the deal with it either.. i tried adjusting the valves but made it worse..maybe its just my valves idk i havent drove it since or touched it really..it was running all fine before by the way but after i put the head back on..it started sounding like a valve tick/tap so my friends told me to adjust them..so i don't know someday..been to long
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Default Re: Car won't hold (can't) idle - Sounds like a Subaru - Lots of fuel out #2 exhaust

My 96 GSR did the same thing when I burnt the #2 cylinder exhaust. Replaced the valves and ran good as new. Only way I could keep the car at a idle was turning up the idle but it still sounded like a suby
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Ok, new update. Everything I did was perfect. Had the engine I bought been good, everything would have been fine. Did a compression test a few hours ago, was 145 roughly all across the board... that is except for the #2 cylinder, which I was calling the culprit all the time, which registered at a whopping 15PSI!!!... in the compression test.

Anyway, car is going to sit another winter as I will be in Hesperia, CA for the duration of Winter.

Once I'm back, this engine is getting re-rebuilt, and done right.

This can be closed now, thanks all those who chimed in and tried their best to think of the problem.
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