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Old 03-01-2013, 10:07 AM
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Ok so I did I little rebuild on my 95 ls with 00 ls engine, replaced clutch, pressure plate, flywheel, throwout bearing, motor mounts, cam gears, timing belt, headers, spark plugs, wires cap and rotor. I put everything at TDC, followed Honda tech instrustions for timing belt replacement, got the plugs in the right firing order but When I start I get cranking, i get spark and fuel cuz I smell it. Please Help Thank You.
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Ok so I did I little rebuild on my 95 ls with 00 ls engine, replaced clutch, pressure plate, flywheel, throwout bearing, motor mounts, cam gears, timing belt, headers, spark plugs, wires cap and rotor. I put everything at TDC, followed Honda tech instrustions for timing belt replacement, got the plugs in the right firing order but When I start I get cranking, i get spark and fuel cuz I smell it. Please Help Thank You.
Maybe the distributor is 180 out or something.
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To be clear, you have not tried everything, or you would not still have a problem.

You said you have spark, do you have spark at all cylinders, how good is the spark?

Did you use an HEI spark tester to check spark, if not, do so, [on all cylinders.

Have you done a compression test?
If not, do so.

As mentioned, confirm ign. timing, make sure rotor is pointing to #1 cylinder when @ TDC. 94

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To be clear, you have not tried everything, or you would not still have a problem.

You said you have spark, do you have spark at all cylinders, how good is the spark?

Did you use an HEI spark tester to check spark, if not, do so, [on all cylinders.

Have you done a compression test?
If not, do so.

As mentioned, confirm ign. timing, make sure rotor is pointing to #1 cylinder when @ TDC. 94
My spark is good, I didn't do a test on it or a compression test.. I don't know how to do either, and my rotor is pointing to #1... I think the fact that my engine has a lot of fuel in it from attempting to start it may have somethin to do with it
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Originally Posted by fcm
To be clear, you have not tried everything, or you would not still have a problem.

You said you have spark, do you have spark at all cylinders, how good is the spark?

Did you use an HEI spark tester to check spark, if not, do so, [on all cylinders.

Have you done a compression test?
If not, do so.

As mentioned, confirm ign. timing, make sure rotor is pointing to #1 cylinder when @ TDC. 94
And I checked my sparks with old plugs and had a faint spark in cylinder 3
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Washed cylinders, [trying to start too many times] may be the problem, weak spark on one cylinder is definatly a problem, [replace that spark pug lead].

For washed cylinders, remove the spark plugs and let sit overnight, pour in a tablespoon of oil in each cylinder, do a bypass jump, [crank engine without turning on the ign.] allow engine to turn over a number of times, [more then 5], reinstall plugs, try starting the engine. 94
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Originally Posted by fcm
Washed cylinders, [trying to start too many times] may be the problem, weak spark on one cylinder is definatly a problem, [replace that spark pug lead].

For washed cylinders, remove the spark plugs and let sit overnight, pour in a tablespoon of oil in each cylinder, do a bypass jump, [crank engine without turning on the ign.] allow engine to turn over a number of times, [more then 5], reinstall plugs, try starting the engine. 94
Thanks il do that tonite and get back to ya tommorow, and the bad firing plug is brand new, but how do i clean lead
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I had weak spark on a cyl and turned out I didn't push my spark plug wires on all the way. Sounds stupid but worth a look. That wouldn't cause the car not to start though.
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You can not clean the lead, all you can do is replace it.

The above assumes you used the same spark plug to test all four cylinders for spark and only that one cylinder had a weak spark, pointing to a bad spark plug lead.

It is also possible that the problem is the distrbutor cap, remove the cap and inspect the inside around that cylinders spark plug lead terminal for carbon arcing and the condition of the terminal itself.

As mentioned, a weak spark on one cylinder, [although a problem] will not prevent engine from starting.94
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You can not clean the lead, all you can do is replace it.

The above assumes you used the same spark plug to test all four cylinders for spark and only that one cylinder had a weak spark, pointing to a bad spark plug lead.

It is also possible that the problem is the distrbutor cap, remove the cap and inspect the inside around that cylinders spark plug lead terminal for carbon arcing and the condition of the terminal itself.

As mentioned, a weak spark on one cylinder, [although a problem] will not prevent engine from starting.94
The distributor was workin fine before the build, and I get a park and fuel I'm so stumpted
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I had weak spark on a cyl and turned out I didn't push my spark plug wires on all the way. Sounds stupid but worth a look. That wouldn't cause the car not to start though.
Nah that's not it I made sure 100 times but thanks
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Always go back to tge basic f.a.c.t.s.
Fuel wich you have.
air wich you have.
Compression wich you havent checked.
Timming wich you say is on.
Spark you say you have.
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i would check your codes first. possible that you've mixed up some of the sensors. or even missed some.
check codes. regardless of an illuminated MIL
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So spark is good or you have a weak, [faint] spark on #3 cylinder, which one is it?94
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Im having the same issue let me know if you figure it out
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Originally Posted by el crapitan
i would check your codes first. possible that you've mixed up some of the sensors. or even missed some.
check codes. regardless of an illuminated MIL
Il do that now
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So spark is good or you have a weak, [faint] spark on #3 cylinder, which one is it?94
It's fine
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Thought id let u kno I did a ac and ps delete as well, if that could effect anything
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Originally Posted by el crapitan
i would check your codes first. possible that you've mixed up some of the sensors. or even missed some.
check codes. regardless of an illuminated MIL
I checked em all I got was my o2 sensor cuz I don't have my midpipe on yet
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ok then. recheck the valve timing. if that's good, check your compression
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make sure the dizzy isnt 180deg off like stated earlier. its designed to go one way but youd be suprised
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he checked that
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ok then. recheck the valve timing. if that's good, check your compression
By valve timing you mean the belt right, and I did that twice already.. and how do I check the compression, I don't see how that could have changed but worth a shot
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Originally Posted by h22steaksauce
make sure the dizzy isnt 180deg off like stated earlier. its designed to go one way but youd be suprised
Yup checked that already like el crapitan said
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Default Re: Cant Get Car To Start, I Read And Tried Everything

I had the same problem after I purchased my 95 ls. I had to replace the whole dizzy in order to fix my problem.


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