JDM 98 GSR

i wanted to go boost my self. but then i decided last minute to go all motor. if your gonna do it. do it all at once. it was hard for me not to cut corners just cuz i wanted to drive it so bad but in the end im glad i didnt. a stroker kit is gonna run you about 2grand plus you have the price of all your other parts and your TUNE. the tune is very important. plus comin out with an N/A car feels good when people cant really see what you have done cuz everything is mostly internal haha. but good luck man

teg_dc2

id go turbo, but does a engine that all motor last longer than a boosted motor??

DAteg402

good question got me?????

Jdc5

If you build it the right wat the first time it will last. DA Id boost, just dont go the cheap way and get cheap stuff.

DAteg402

so what did u all do to ur motor?? and what brand of parts did u use, what was the outcome??

DAteg402

so where can u get a good quality 'cheap' turbo kit or is there no way to really go cheap with boost and whats ur def. of the right way the first time

rkrone

boost is more fun, (to me) takes a little more initial setup, but room for easily adding power (just turn up the PSI)
short term NA is cheaper - to a certain hp
long term Turbo is cheaper - past a certain hp
very long term they will both cost you, but you will learn what works and where not to take short cuts

xionl1350

Cheap and turbo shouldn't ever go together. As for building it the right way. Just build the motor up from the block to your head using good quality parts from respectable companies and don't cheap out and skip things because it'll end up coming back to haunt you down the road. Take the time to build the motor right the first time so that you don't have to worry about it breaking down a couple of months later.

SlammedDC2

If you want the car to be reliable you can boost or go NA. But either way you do it, you need to build it right the first time. And either way you go, it's going to be expensive. Personally I think NA is a more expensive way to go for less HP but HP isn't everything. When your done go to the track and see what kind of times your running.
You won't have the same HP numbers with an NA car as you will with a boosted car (unless your running 5psi).

personally I think you should spend some time in the all motor forum and the forced induction forum and do some reading to see where you want to go.

Jdc5

EBAY non-name brand **** that hasnt been dyno proven.

JDM 98 GSR

to sum it up for you man if you do them both right your gonna have a fast car. it comes down to money and time there both gonna cost you a good amount of money. and when it goes to all motor it depends how far you want to take it. if your goin complete block to head it adds up quick plus theres alot of machine work involved. and like Jdc5 said buy brand name its worht the money in the end and youll have less problems

DAteg402

i'll do that

95DC2GS-R

All depends on what you want to do with the car, daily driven, weekend project car, track car, etc.

Fast, Cheap, Reliable. Pick two.

Fast and reliable are going to cost you some $$.
Cheap and reliable isn't going to be as fast.
Fast and cheap isn't going to be reliable.

DAteg402

so i went and read up a lil bit on both and i dont know how to post link on this im sure its to just copy it but on the all motor there is some guy that is runnin a b18a1 wit 205whp and everyone is like blowin there load over it and it dont seem that fast to me if i wana go that hp i will drive my girls 07Si.... and with the boost now i see way more HP out of stock LS motors with crappy set ups even ebay crap..

DAteg402

i know HP=$ but it dont always have to be the most expesive stuff to get the power.. right?? u gotta shop around.. i want a daily spring/summer driver im just tryin to get some type of input on this..

Jdc5

Dont know if you heard of it but I use it alot. Craigslist.com
If your on a budget you can usually find everything that you need there for hella of a deal.

DAteg402

yeah i already know i got stuff on there for sale right now and have been lookin on there for a while but im from Nebraska and its a good amount of racers in my area but i never seem to find much for sale for hondas even in surrounding areas that im willin to drive to

JDM 98 GSR

between me and my friends we have a honda junkyard haha. let me know if you need somethin.

SlammedDC2

Like I said, you will never get the same HP numbers when comparing NA vs FI. Plus your talking about an all motor non vtec build, which has been done and can make power, but not as often as the vtec motors. You'd be surprised what 205whp feels like from an NA car. It's quicker than you would think. Esp. seeing as how your LS came what...150-160 to the crank? What's that equate to to the wheels? I'm guessing somewhere around 120whp. But I don't know, I've never dyno'd an LS. Just keep reading up on both till you are able to make a decidsion then do even more reading on that subject. Good luck

DANinja

lol even budget turbo builds put down more power than the average N/A build...

200whp is actually pretty good for an N/A build but you could put down those #'s using some dinky OEM mitsu or subaru turbo

if you're going to go N/A atleast add some spray to it...otherwise turbo all the way. there really is no tough decision IMO...

DAteg402

yeah but i want to get more than 200 so i think ima go turbo kuz my girl has a 07Si n i can drive that if i want to go 200hp i think she's got 197 or somethin like that and thats bone stock for right now ya know

oMek

boost

blk_hatch978

Just do a little bit of both...You will never go wrong.

DAteg402

i think thats what im gonna go for

yunghov

boost it and youll get more power but if u go all motor youll get reliability... its all about what you perfer. good luck