Best stage 2 cam for the buck
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Best stage 2 cam for the buck
I was thinking about getting blox stage 2 or blox type b cams for my gsr or maybe even skunk 2 stage 2's what do you think would be the best bang for my buck? The blox come w/ valve springs
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Skunk2 is just a name there are better cams then what they have. Over personal experiance I would not go with the Blox they are good parts but if you plan on stressing the car you should look into a custom grind for your application. For street use the blox would be fine as long as you are not running high RPM's all the time. You should just not concern your self with the cost of the cam it is a critical part to your car. I am running Brian Crower cams and getting about 220 out of a N/A B18B1 Non vtec It is a good cam for High RPM cars but I think if I could do it again I would have gotten a custom grind. The power ban is just so high on the Crower cams they are not got for street application. You should look further into the power ban of the cam and apply that to what you are going to be doing with the car. RESEARCH
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Skunk2 is just a name there are better cams then what they have. Over personal experiance I would not go with the Blox they are good parts but if you plan on stressing the car you should look into a custom grind for your application. For street use the blox would be fine as long as you are not running high RPM's all the time. You should just not concern your self with the cost of the cam it is a critical part to your car. I am running Brian Crower cams and getting about 220 out of a N/A B18B1 Non vtec It is a good cam for High RPM cars but I think if I could do it again I would have gotten a custom grind. The power ban is just so high on the Crower cams they are not got for street application. You should look further into the power ban of the cam and apply that to what you are going to be doing with the car. RESEARCH
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Stage 3 head flat top valves port polish 3 angle valve job light wieght crank forged wisco pistons 13:1 comp ratio forged rods 370 cc rc injectors 70mm throttle body cold air intake 4 to 1 header 2.5 collector flowmaster Crower cams aluminum crank pully no ac no power steering stand alone ECU (Turbo edit tunning) Adjustable cam gears and a lot of tunning Do i really need to get into the trans upgrades or have I proved my point yet Its not hard to get power out of your b18b1 you just have to sink some money into it not just bolt on parts here
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Re: Best stage 2 cam for the buck
im just planning on having a pretty fast DD i will do fuel system get it chipped then get some cams valvetrain etc... does anyone know which is more aggressive blox type b or stage 2?
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Stage 3 head flat top valves port polish 3 angle valve job light wieght crank forged wisco pistons 13:1 comp ratio forged rods 370 cc rc injectors 70mm throttle body cold air intake 4 to 1 header 2.5 collector flowmaster Crower cams aluminum crank pully no ac no power steering stand alone ECU (Turbo edit tunning) Adjustable cam gears and a lot of tunning Do i really need to get into the trans upgrades or have I proved my point yet Its not hard to get power out of your b18b1 you just have to sink some money into it not just bolt on parts here
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WOW!!! My gsr with similar mods doesn't even break 200 whp, so for an LS build to break 220 whp with the mods you listed is very impressive. Enlighten me a bit, how do transmission upgrades affect whp, what is your final compression with those valves, what fuel are you running, what intake manifold and which Crower cams are you running? I ask cause my neighbor is building his LS and if it's that easy to make 220 whp I'll tell him to ditch the going boost idea.
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I am running on 116 octane the final comp ratio is 13.5:1 it is possable to run this set up on pump fuel but you will only get about 160-170 at the wheel if that I have never tried to tune my car that far down so the gas bill does get quite expensive if you drive it everyday. I have a great tunner also. Trans upgrade help with wheel horse power by transfering more power to the wheels new synchros shorter shift pattern lsd add on, stage 3 clutch, 500 hp cv axles I am running a stock intake manifold that has been ported to match the intake bore on the head with a hondata intake gasket and it really wasnt that easy there is a lot of trial and error to get this power he will need very good bearings (I use teflon coated mains) and the car will probly have to be stroked out you can get a stroker kit for a little over 2000$ but the power it produces is great with out haveing to bore the motor and affect the sylnder walls strenth. If I had to do it over again I would have boosted due to the cost of the build but now I have a bad *** N/A car that will run with most V-tec where I live. I plan to build a K series in the near future and I think I am going to boost that motor. Also I have not shot my B series with nitrous yet I am wanting to but scared that the comp ratio is to much for a nitrous shot. And if your not getting over 200 hp power on a boosted integra something is wrong with your set up what kinda mods do you have to your motor? whos tunning that thing for you? How much boost do you have? whats your comp. ratio befor boost? are you using a stock block and crank?
No, my gsr is NA, 3 angle valve job, head is port matched to IM and header, with s2 IM port matched to TB, 65mm TB, aem CAI, edelbrock pro header w/ 2.5" collector mod, kteller 2.5" I.D. exhaust, RS machine 82mm pistons, ls crank and rods, fully balanced rotating assembly, S2S2 tuner series cams, supertech (flat faced valves, and sp/rets), tuned on crome. Managed 190 whp on 91 octane. Looking to get some better cams and a better header this summer to break 200 whp. So are you making 220 whp or bhp?
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wheel my car is stroked to a 2.0 man its not stock block i have shorter pistons and longer rods to compensate the terrable rod angle of the b18b1 block and on the subjuct of your cams I think I would go for the stage 2 if you are going with blox I dont know anything about the type b cams And someone correct me if I am wrong Doesnt the b18b1 from 1997 non vtec come with 142 hp and the 1997 vtec gsr produce 171 hp with that many mods your car should have more power than that what is your comp ratio I am not 100 % sure about the vtec but I have done a great share of reseach in the build of my car so I knew what applications would match what my goals were in my build
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i thought CTR cams were more mild and the blox stage 2 come w/ valve springs for the same price as the skunk 2s i think
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why would u go stage 2? what mods do u have to support such a big cam(if goin with skunk) when skunk was mentioned..u did mean the non tuner series correct?
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the blox Bs would be a good cam. I've seen some good results from those.
Go to the ALL MOTOR section and look at the 1.8L OEM motor builds and see the guys that are breaking 190hp with headwork and cams with OEM bottom ends. pretty good setups
Go to the ALL MOTOR section and look at the 1.8L OEM motor builds and see the guys that are breaking 190hp with headwork and cams with OEM bottom ends. pretty good setups
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Stage 3 head flat top valves port polish 3 angle valve job light wieght crank forged wisco pistons 13:1 comp ratio forged rods 370 cc rc injectors 70mm throttle body cold air intake 4 to 1 header 2.5 collector flowmaster Crower cams aluminum crank pully no ac no power steering stand alone ECU (Turbo edit tunning) Adjustable cam gears and a lot of tunning Do i really need to get into the trans upgrades or have I proved my point yet Its not hard to get power out of your b18b1 you just have to sink some money into it not just bolt on parts here
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Re: Best stage 2 cam for the buck
well i will keep stock bottom end 440cc injectors, aem fuel rail, fuel pump, cam gears, full valve train, i/h/e, and the cams...