Freshazzburu

and after replacing the t-belt and water pump 40k miles ago, my car died.

I was driving to the gas station and upon driving into the turning lane slowing from about 25mph, my engine stops and my car start coasting. Tried to start it, nothing - nothing but the the crank turning over.

I hoped it was just at bad coil or ignitor, but after taking off the valve cover to inspect the situation, I discovered a snapped timing belt. How????? I'm thinking something seized...who knows.

Well, what's done is done. Now what? Stock ITR rebuild? 200whp N/A rebuild? Turbo??

Hmm...many options...don't know what I should do. I'll be looking for a new car, tomorrow, that's for sure.

Oh well, there has to be ups with the downs i guess. I ironically got a job offer with NEC right after pushing the car into my driveway, so I hope this is just a sign that a new future is ahead of me. Hmm...new car, new president, new job which is the start of my career...crazy day for sure.

Yeah, this was pretty much a post to rant off. Haven't posted in a long time. Share your thoughts on rebuilding.

DA-Buddah_hulk

i'd like to see the itr build up.

sintype

the ITR build sounds nice.

Freshazzburu

OK guys. Please shed some insight with me. I posted up my car for sale to test waters while I save up. Thing is, I've gotten a lot of replies unexpectedly. I told myself that if a certain number was offered to me I'd let it go without thinking about it. Well, that number was met.

My dilemma is that this is the car I learned to drive on, I got my license with, and I drove every day ever since - 8 years!!

Has anyone else on here sell their first car that had a lot of sentimental value? Any regrets? Please help me

I do want to rebuild this thing, I do!! But with the circumstances of needing the transportation for my new job, which starts on the 17th, I don't know if it'll get done in time!

It's such an embarrassing thing to need advice on, but there is a place in my heart for this car - as cheesy as that may sound!

danthemang3

congrats on the job. it is funny how things work out sometimes. i didn't get attached to my first car but have always been attached to integra's. i have had a S2000 and a rsxs. i loved them both but everytime i saw a real nice integra i'd start drooling over it. so yes i am selling my S2000 for a ground up build on a integra. but new cars sure are nice.

Freshazzburu

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by danthemang3 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">congrats on the job. it is funny how things work out sometimes. i didn't get attached to my first car but have always been attached to integra's. i have had a S2000 and a rsxs. i loved them both but everytime i saw a real nice integra i'd start drooling over it. so yes i am selling my S2000 for a ground up build on a integra. but new cars sure are nice.</TD></TR></TABLE>

What's funny is that I was just reading over your build up thread

Thanks for the congrats. Your thread is inspiring me to keep my car and rebuild (although it's not as big of a build up you're doing!). I'm just in a hard thinking state of mind right now: go with symbolism and start my new beginning with a new car? or hold on to what got me to this part of my life (my car has always been there for me (no matter how many fix it tickets and impounds were involved!).

butt_trumpet

Are integras interference engines? Did you smash up your valves? If its a clearance engine why not just replace the timing belt and call it good?

Freshazzburu

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by butt_trumpet &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Are integras interference engines? </TD></TR></TABLE>

I'm not sure what you are asking here.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by butt_trumpet &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Are integras interference engines? Did you smash up your valves? If its a clearance engine why not just replace the timing belt and call it good?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Well..there's a possibility that none of the valves were bent. Most likely a couple did though. That calls for a valve job. If I find that all I need is a new belt, then i'll just do another belt and pump and call it a day, but that's wishful thinking. It's probably a 5% chance.

thabao

a guys first teg is like a first girlfriend/first love. it'll be very hard to let go no matter what the situation is.

i say keep it and do the itr build, you'll be happier in the end.

Sack swinger

An interference engine is an engine in which the pistons will hit the valves at full lift if the cam timing isn't right, like when you break a timing belt. A clearance engine is one in which the valves can be fully open and you can rotate the crank 360 degree's through the full stroke of the piston and not hit valves.

A higher compression engine is going to necessitate an interference type design. I believe the b18a/b series engines are a clearance design but GSR or type R engines are more likely to be interference owing to the higher compression and higher lift.

So it all depends on how much stroke, compression, and lift you are running that determines whether you bent your valves.

Don't despair just yet.

RP215.

Don't sell it man.

I would still have my first car (my integra) if it wasn't stolen.

I bought a newer, faster car and it's not the same.

I want to get back into an Integra some time next year.

Freshazzburu

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Sack swinger &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">An interference engine is an engine in which the pistons will hit the valves at full lift if the cam timing isn't right, like when you break a timing belt. A clearance engine is one in which the valves can be fully open and you can rotate the crank 360 degree's through the full stroke of the piston and not hit valves.

A higher compression engine is going to necessitate an interference type design. I believe the b18a/b series engines are a clearance design but GSR or type R engines are more likely to be interference owing to the higher compression and higher lift.

So it all depends on how much stroke, compression, and lift you are running that determines whether you bent your valves.

Don't despair just yet.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I see, then yes, if the timing is extremely off, there can be a bent valve. I'm not sure if I got lucky or not since I have not taken off the head yet. What i can say is that it happened at a very low rpm and there was no clank that I heard of. We'll see. i probably have a 5% chance at no bent valves I think.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RP215. &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Don't sell it man.

I would still have my first car (my integra) if it wasn't stolen.

I bought a newer, faster car and it's not the same.

I want to get back into an Integra some time next year.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I'm sorry for your loss. Yes, my teggy was stolen a couple years back as well, although I got lucky to find it with only a missing audio system. It was one of the most miserable times I've faced.

As for everyone suggesting I don't sell and rebuild - I really, really hope that's the decision I make. It truly is like a first love. I'll just have to play it out day by day.

iH8RICERZ

iTrader: (1)

If you don't feel like spending a lot of money, then find another gsr swap and do a mild build... (cams, valve train).....maybe some itr pistons. If you're not worried about smog or getting pulled over, then I'd find another gsr or b18b swap and boost the hell out of it

I ended up doing a NA GSR motor in my DC2 when it hit 200k miles. Although its fun to drive now, the money spent wasn't worth the power I got. Wishing I would've boosted now.....

Freshazzburu

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by iH8RICERZ &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I ended up doing a NA GSR motor in my DC2 when it hit 200k miles. Although its fun to drive now, the money spent wasn't worth the power I got. Wishing I would've boosted now.....</TD></TR></TABLE>

That's what I'm contemplating on. If I rebuild, it's either going to be stock trim with a few ITR internals, or go boost. There's no way I can justify spending a ton of money building a crazy NA build. If I want to go NA, I think I'll just swap in an H22 with my tranny.

BTW, I remember running into your car a couple years back in front of Stoneridge. I really liked your rims. Not many folks have those Kappas.

Freshazzburu

Hmm...I'm thinking about getting this rebuild kit with the ITR or CTR piston kit which totals to about $480 shipped. I already have ITR cams, so all it'll leave me to do are pretty much valvetrain, ECU, and intake manifold.

Of course, that all depends if I end up keeping it. I've been getting some decent offers so far. I'll update with what happens. I should know by a week or so.

slo_hatch

this thread is makin me sad. lol i still have my first car (87 mustang convertible) but i dont drive it now that i got my eh2 and my ej8. i would definately keep it and i would prolly go the turbo route if you want good amounts of power. if you want another 250k miles....go the itr rebuild and you will have the reliability and some extra power. it just depends on what your really wanting out of your car.

redGSRguy

When I drove my friend's turbo hatch it was pretty crazy compared to my old N/A build.

Buy my old motor if you decide you wanna rebuild .

teggy71

i have had a few cars, my first was ugly, but i do miss a few of them.. my mustang, my 240, and my jeep. i never missed them because of centimental value, i missed them because the way i was able to drive them. i miss being able to drift so easily.. or goin 4 wheeling.. anyhow.. i would totally rebuild the block. new valves, pistons, rods, piston rings, gaskets, belts, cams, bearings!!, costs alot less than a new car. and you wont feel bad about selling it

Freshazzburu

If i did sell, I was thinking of either going the s14 route or moving up to an RSX. I really don't want to get another Integra because I know it would never be the same and I'll never appreciate the car as i do mine. Of course, again, this is if I do sell.

I'm desperately saving to just rebuild. I'm still trying to decide if i want to continue making this my DD or turning it into my project car. I do crave that boost!!!

Freshazzburu

After purchasing a new car for 28k and realizing that I don't need it (especially with the economy), then getting rid of it (with 0 loss), I rebuilt the head which had 4 bent valves. It cost me 1200+/- total to get it running again. Wow...thing runs strong and smooth. I'm happy with my car again, forgot how fun it is.

That is all lol. Thanks for the ideas.

PatrickGSR94

iTrader: (1)

I think almost all Honda D/B/H/maybe F engines are interference design.

Freshazzburu

Sometimes I wish for chains.

vladd

are ls engines interference? i thought i remembered reading that they're not.

strtrcr77

My first teg was hard to get rid of, had it for five years and finally spun a rod bearing with exactly 195000. Lucky me i sold it to a friend now its being fully built, good news i still get to see it just about every day.

krucial7integra

was the timing belt torqued too much? I just can't see how the belt snapped when you just changed it.