dc2vu

very impressed with numbers and set up

lets see some pics of the complete set up though!! especially under the hood

DC2-Interceptor

Hmm if it was an LS bottom end, it would have higher torque numbers. With 267whp you would be more along the lines of ~230wtq not 195... you sure it's an LS/VTEC? I want to see pictures of the block and the head for confirmation.

IggyBcool

im just saying thats a hella lotta power for just 6lbs

93formula

just go to their site and look at the pics there, i have some pics on my site as well on most installs. it will give you guys an idea of what it looks like before the civic/integra kits are out.

http://www.ststurbo.com http://www.canadianhighperformance.ca

for specs of the turbos email STS directly. they make basic kits and kits to your HP needs, so not all kits will be the same.

eficker

The Turbo is a T3/T4 hybrid.

It has a 50 trim compressor and a stage 3 turbine.

I have run two different turbos both t3/t4's and this one did make more power.

Let me know if you need any more specs and i will find them out, if i dont already know.

turbo'd integra LS

I'm running 9lbs with no problems.

Uncle Ben's

267 hp shouldnt be too hard to believe for a turbo lsvtec, its a very potent engine. there are all motor lsvtecs making 210 at the wheels, so why is 57 more with a well tuned turbo with 6 psi questionable?

shermanyang

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210whp on an LS/Vtec is manageble but with LOTS of mods. you can't just do a simple slap on and be done with it. higher compression pistons, pnp, im, tb, cams, and tons of mods must be done to acheive that power.

plus we're talking about a slap on ls/vtec motor here.

drumking15

ya put a turbo in the rear of the car...smart...not really

and if you think your air is being cooled by running thru piping...son you need to go take fluids...

air traveling at such a high rate of speed isnt going to transfer heat to the piping...and so on

JDMHN8

Hmmm... guess there is zero precipitation in Utah, right? The roads are smoother than a pool table, too. And no theives that could easily ****** anything of value hanging out in the open, too. Not the greatest setup by a longshot. I really can't see any advantage over this cobbled together unit versus a properly tuned, intercooled underhood kit...

I remember seeing this here.

Also, what sanctioning body are you racing with that allows for WRXs and tubo Integras to run together? I don't even see a roll cage in your car...

93formula

you guys who knock the setup why dont you go for a ride in a STS equipped vehicle in your area. the kit makes power. it works, it spools up just as fast. if you dont like it then justify why its dumb??? if its dumb, then why is it getting all this magazine coverage? why did it win the GM SEMA award? why was it on (non infomercial) TV?

i remember when this kit first came out for the f bodies, people on those forums kept knocking the system untill they started popping up and producing dyno proven numbers. pretty soon more and more hondas will run these kits. again its not for everyone, but there is a market out there.

esp

way to represent for all of the DA people

juiced2ndgenteg

its gonna suck when you start your car one day and you've got a nasty oil leak and NO TURBO. putting it back there is asking to get robbed. nice #'s though i think the mounting place is retarted.

eficker

drumking15 (btw is that your age?) you can go take your fluids classes, they would probably tell you that this whole setup wouldn't work. Of course modern science used to say the earth is flat too, hmm, interesting.

Obviously all the piping is not as efficient as an intercooler, but I will tell you that my logged IAT's never get above 112 F, ever. So perhaps it does work.

I'm not sure what kind of neighborhood you live in, but here we can park our car outside overnight and not wake up to it on cinder blocks.

And it rains here, oh, and snows too. I have had zero problems with this setup and the elements.

jdmda9, who cares about what sanctioning body allows me to run with evos and sti's. I placed 4th overall above 2 other sti's and evos, these cars were not stock either. I'll take you in the cones any day.

Here's the difference between an under hood kit and the remote mount. HEAT! Perhaps you've heard of it. Colds ugly cousin. Your turbo is under hood making like 1600 F and then its soaking all over your motor at speed, and your radiator at a light. The oil cooks, and the manifold gets red hot.

With this setup, I don't need a turbo timer, my oil isn't hot going back into the motor, and i can put my hand on my exhaust housing almost imediately after shutting the car off, which also means the compressor is cooler.

Also what difference does bad roads make? I never scrape anything. I will admit, though, if you have a 3" drop, this may not be the kit for you.

And for whoever doesn't think this is an ls/vtec, i'm not going to pull my motor apart to prove it. What else would it be? A C5? I would most likely brag about that had I spent the money on it. Lame argument.

AK94GSR

i must say it is good to finally see someone put this kit on
and i must say eficker is backin up everything he has to say....that must mean sumthin there guys

come on, if anyone is doubting him, just check the website like other people have said. their website explains everything if not just email them

93formula

i still dont understand the haters, but as i seen on the f body forums there will always be haters.

its kinda like the traditionalist sbc carb lovers who claim efi sucks. this remote mount setup is a insult to the traditional turbo builders.

two years ago people on the f body forums kept saying someone will steal the turbo.... well im a STS dealer and i have yet to here of a STS customer to have their turbo robbed.

shinobijesus

so what are the arguments against this?

its hot anyway - not as hot as when its next to the damn motor.

it will get stolen - not everyone lives in a slum.

it will scrape or break off on the road - raise your slammed honda you ricer.

i honestly dont see anything wrong with this kit. it sounds badass and i would seriously consider it if i wanted to go turbo.

jizno

wow...nuff said

JDMHN8

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by shinobijesus &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">so what are the arguments against this?

its hot anyway - not as hot as when its next to the damn motor.

it will get stolen - not everyone lives in a slum.

it will scrape or break off on the road - raise your slammed honda you ricer.

i honestly dont see anything wrong with this kit. it sounds badass and i would seriously consider it if i wanted to go turbo.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Let me quantify a few of your frivelous remarks.

- The turbo will get just as hot no matter where you put it. Period. It's not like there is a magical temp. drop if you put it next to your gas tank. Exhaust gas is hot no matter where it goes, and a properly setup underhood kit will undoubtedly counter any increase in underhood temps with a larger radiator and an intercooler. And if you're not an idiot, you'd buy the radiator even if you used the STS "**** Kit", so you're really half way there.

- Most parts of Phoenix aren't "slums". However, we have the HIGHEST rate of car theft in America. And you know what the target vehicle is 99% of the time? A flashy Honda with expensive parts in plain view. A good friend of mine has had his '94 Prelude VTEC broken into three times in his own driveway at night, and he hardly lives in a "slum". And Phoenix is far from being the only place car theft occurs.

- I guess you've never driven over a driveway lip or through a construction zone before, right? My car is barely 1.8" lower than stock and I still take every concrete apron like a grandma and steer around protruding manholes that dot the many road work areas around town. Whats to say a nice expensive turbo couldn't possibly get nicked by an everyday road hazard.

I've yet to see any real reason to consider this novelty kit. Underhood setups have been proven time and time again and really have no downsides when done right. Aside from a few people that fail to see the bigger picture of the negatives of this "**** Kit", there isn't anyway this thing will ever take off, no matter how many poorly written magazine articles lacking any substance they have written about it.

But, I guess the STS kit just goes to show us that you could market anything to anyone and sell it with enough BS to "back it up".

KNoGooD

Thas Bad *** Hows the Traction?

slimbo

it's a very interesting setup, i've never actually heard/seen anything like this before, i guess it pays to think outside of the square sometimes

my only concern would be a toasty hot turbo sitting near my fuel tank like that...

n0 iNTegRiTY

...I'm amazed!

Uncle Ben's

this is gonna go on forever, a turbo is a turbo. just like a supercharger is a supercharger, even though there are different designs. i dont really see any problems with this kind of turbo kit.

shinobijesus

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way to look at it unbiased. the whole first part of your post was pointless. not every one of those situations i wrote can apply to everyone and you might live in a place where you could never have this kit. no reason to be bitter about it.

but the line i quoted is where you fail at life. new things will be developed and like someone said, you need to think outside the box sometimes. im not saying this kit is superior to underhood. im saying its different and it could work for someone. not you i guess, but someone else. eficker is using it to good extent. but im sure hes a moron in your eyes for not going with a classic underhood setup i guess?

pardon us for wanting something new to happen to cars once in a while.

HonDA-6-801

I think its SWEET! Good numbers ...I'll see ya at the Next event!!