POWERINTEGRA

Anybody got a 4 point harness on a DA I got some recaros and want to install some 4 point harnesses but I wanna be safe and would like to see some pics and best places to bolt them on
Thanks!!!


Modified by POWERINTEGRA at 8:12 PM 10/17/2004


Modified by POWERINTEGRA at 4:55 AM 10/18/2004

POWERINTEGRA

anybody

POWERINTEGRA

also are this street legal???

MR-MUGEN

i have 4-point harness in my DA and ya they are safe and street legal as long as they are tight and not lose , gotten pulled over , because it looks like i don't have a seat belt (automatic seat belt hook on the for ) and then they see the harness and always say , "o well i guess your safer in that and the just check where its bolted at , the best place is the bottom left is there the original belt lap went, the bottom right on the back right bolt that holds the seat down , left top where the back seat belt bolts at the top , right top there the back seat bolts to the bottom got to take your seat off for that , heres a pic. not the best but maybe can help alittle

POWERINTEGRA

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jdm92daintegra &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i have 4-point harness in my DA and ya they are safe and street legal as long as they are tight and not lose , gotten pulled over , because it looks like i don't have a seat belt (automatic seat belt hook on the for ) and then they see the harness and always say , "o well i guess your safer in that and the just check where its bolted at , the best place is the bottom left is there the original belt lap went, the bottom right on the back right bolt that holds the seat down , left top where the back seat belt bolts at the top , right top there the back seat bolts to the bottom got to take your seat off for that , heres a pic. not the best but maybe can help alittle
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Really nice man for a sec I thought that was a seat belt bar. I was gonna ask you where you got it from but looks like a c pilla bar. Am I right look nice man

Anyother set ups guys keep the pics coming thanks

Your Epitaph.

No rollcage + 4 Pt. harnesses = Dead.

But they're m@d tiitE y0!

LSvtec03

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i hope you don't die when you get into an accident. maybe you'll be able to live out life in a wheelchair.

Beezle

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But they're m@d tiitE y0!</TD></TR></TABLE>

Isn't that a 5 point harness because the belt goes between your legs and if your car flips over you're not going to be able to slide down towards the floor and get crushed by the roof?

Your Epitaph.

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A 5 Pt. will stop you from submarining in the event of a wreck, and w/o a rollbar, crush you.

A 4 Pt. will allow you to submarine, which will also cause injury.

Either way, you're going to get hurt.

Beezle

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A 5 Pt. will stop you from submarining in the event of a wreck, and w/o a rollbar, crush you.

A 4 Pt. will allow you to submarine, which will also cause injury.

Either way, you're going to get hurt.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Doesn't a regular seatbelt let you submarine also?

PatrickGSR94

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This has got to be one of the most unsafe harness setups I've ever seen.

Someday people might realize the truth.

Take note and remember this people: bad things can and do happen on the street, sometimes out of nowhere, things you have NO control over, and have no way to avoid. With all the idiot drivers out there (driving tests are WAY too easy, real driving schools should be mandatory to getting a license IMHO), you never know what's going to happen.

A car could come careening from nowhere and flip your car over at any time, without warning. If you are strapped into a racing harness, with no rollover protection, chances are VERY high that you will either die or become paralyzed for the rest of your life. When you are strapped into a harness, you have NOWHERE to go. If the car flips over, the roof comes caving in on your head and there's nothing you can do about it.

With the stock seatbelts, you can move over to one side and possibly survive the wreck unhurt, or at least come out still having a fully functional body.

Please people, if you value your life and the lives of others (anybody riding with you who is also strapped in), do NOT use racing harnesses on public roads UNLESS you have a roll bar or roll cage.

DO wear your seatbelts (OEM ones) at all times when driving.

Beezle

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This has got to be one of the most unsafe harness setups I've ever seen.

Someday people might realize the truth.

Take note and remember this people: bad things can and do happen on the street, sometimes out of nowhere, things you have NO control over, and have no way to avoid. With all the idiot drivers out there (driving tests are WAY too easy, real driving schools should be mandatory to getting a license IMHO), you never know what's going to happen.

A car could come careening from nowhere and flip your car over at any time, without warning. If you are strapped into a racing harness, with no rollover protection, chances are VERY high that you will either die or become paralyzed for the rest of your life. When you are strapped into a harness, you have NOWHERE to go. If the car flips over, the roof comes caving in on your head and there's nothing you can do about it.

With the stock seatbelts, you can move over to one side and possibly survive the wreck unhurt, or at least come out still having a fully functional body.

Please people, if you value your life and the lives of others (anybody riding with you who is also strapped in), do NOT use racing harnesses on public roads UNLESS you have a roll bar or roll cage.

DO wear your seatbelts (OEM ones) at all times when driving.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Even if you do have a rollcage you're supposed to wear a helmet because you can hit your head on the metal bar. It's definatly not worth it.

POWERINTEGRA

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Even if you do have a rollcage you're supposed to wear a helmet because you can hit your head on the metal bar. It's definatly not worth it.</TD></TR></TABLE>

ummm.... all this makes me think twice about putting a harness if all this is unsafe why do people use it. Also what will be a good safe set up?

Endless STi

y dont u use stock seat belt like me. i have tenzo r type r seats on mine and im using the stock seat belts. they work fine and its safe.

POWERINTEGRA

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I know this but why do people put them on street cars and what's a safe way to put them ?they look real nice and I love a nice harness but if this is unsafe people wouldn't use I won't use them if this is true. So I want to know??

marsbike

yeah, it's unsafe to have a harness. OEM is awsome. If you wanna be tight into the seat you can get one of these: http://www.cg-lock.com/. Definately worth the money!

yodas-gsr

for looks of course

POWERINTEGRA

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I put this on today to try them. But I'm thinking of putting stock seat belts back. Anyways this was the only way I found to put them on. I have no idea if this is safe enjoy the pics

Should use a different set up to make is safe or just keep the stock ones??

yodas-gsr

hmm, dont know to much about them, but they do look good, the seats you should keep, as far as the belts, from what i've read on this thread, you may want to keep the stock belts...just a thought.

late,
yoda

PatrickGSR94

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I know this but why do people put them on street cars and what's a safe way to put them ?they look real nice and I love a nice harness but if this is unsafe people wouldn't use I won't use them if this is true. So I want to know??</TD></TR></TABLE>

It's not as much of an issue if you're autocrossing or roadracing, because that's a MUCH more controlled environment, and you would be VERY hard-pressed to roll your car on an autox course.

The danger comes from using them on the street, w/o rollover protection, because as I said bad things can happen any time or any place, out of nowhere.

Last year during my last year of school, my classes were in a building in the city's downtown. One day we looked out the window and saw a Cavalier sitting upside down on the roof in the middle of the intersection. Now on these downtown streets you really can't go more than 30mph w/ the traffic and the conditions of the road and such, yet this car was hit by someone and rolled over anyway. If it was a car w/ harnesses the driver would probably be seriously injured or dead, but in this case I think the driver came out mostly unhurt.

iixerOii

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PatrickGSR94 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

This has got to be one of the most unsafe harness setups I've ever seen.

Someday people might realize the truth.

Take note and remember this people: bad things can and do happen on the street, sometimes out of nowhere, things you have NO control over, and have no way to avoid. With all the idiot drivers out there (driving tests are WAY too easy, real driving schools should be mandatory to getting a license IMHO), you never know what's going to happen.

A car could come careening from nowhere and flip your car over at any time, without warning. If you are strapped into a racing harness, with no rollover protection, chances are VERY high that you will either die or become paralyzed for the rest of your life. When you are strapped into a harness, you have NOWHERE to go. If the car flips over, the roof comes caving in on your head and there's nothing you can do about it.

With the stock seatbelts, you can move over to one side and possibly survive the wreck unhurt, or at least come out still having a fully functional body.

Please people, if you value your life and the lives of others (anybody riding with you who is also strapped in), do NOT use racing harnesses on public roads UNLESS you have a roll bar or roll cage.

DO wear your seatbelts (OEM ones) at all times when driving.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Thank you, some people just don't realize this and when I try to explain it to them they look at me like I'm fuxored

POWERINTEGRA

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PatrickGSR94 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

It's not as much of an issue if you're autocrossing or roadracing, because that's a MUCH more controlled environment, and you would be VERY hard-pressed to roll your car on an autox course.

The danger comes from using them on the street, w/o rollover protection, because as I said bad things can happen any time or any place, out of nowhere.

Last year during my last year of school, my classes were in a building in the city's downtown. One day we looked out the window and saw a Cavalier sitting upside down on the roof in the middle of the intersection. Now on these downtown streets you really can't go more than 30mph w/ the traffic and the conditions of the road and such, yet this car was hit by someone and rolled over anyway. If it was a car w/ harnesses the driver would probably be seriously injured or dead, but in this case I think the driver came out mostly unhurt.</TD></TR></TABLE>

You are right so are this ok with a roll cage? I thought I was going to be fine and safe because I bolted them to the stock seat belts points. But I guess it doesn't work that way. I would just like to know or see a set up that will be safe any pics would be great
I don't street race but I do go on the freeway and like you said you never know when something might happen, are these ok for drag?

yodas-gsr

i think what they are saying is if you have those non OEM belts, then you need to make a roll cage in your car...or just use the non OEM seats, and regular belts. correct me if im wrong.

late,
yoda

deepgreengsr

ya, that is the gayest setup I have ever seen. Do it right, or rish compressing your spine in a crash. Get a Harness bar at least. Connecting the belts where they are now is a HUGE NO NO!

POWERINTEGRA

I found this but don't undertand it
http://www.ompusa.com/harness_notes.htm