Got bored today and decided i would take a trip down to trackmasters and get a few baseline dynos...Im a little dissapointed in the numbers i put down, but i also have a slight miss at idle, which is prolly hurting my numbers a little bit.
Mods:Carbon fiber short ram intake, 2.25 crush bent on a N1 axleback. Chipped p28.
Blue-JDMshit h22a program
Red- Custom Allmotor from ih8ricerz
Green-Mugen from ih8ricerz
Videohttp://www.we-todd-did-racing....DE%3D




Modified by LudeSH at 10:52 PM 9/2/2004

 

JDMshit has a smooth powerband.

The others just have a sudden spike right when Vtec kicks. I wonder how a spoon program will do.

 

yea but its lean as hell

 

Yup the the jdmshit program was lean as hell...Ill soon have hondata though

 

Heres the vid http://www.we-todd-did-racing....DE%3D

 

lets see some pics of the install!!

 

what mounts are you using?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by donkiman &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">lets see some pics of the install!!</TD></TR></TABLE>


<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jdmh22eg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">what mounts are you using?</TD></TR></TABLE>
HCP mounts

 

Upping the FP would help that out some.

Good post.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by WAFFLES &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Upping the FP would help that out some.

Good post. </TD></TR></TABLE>
He said upping the pressure i could grab a couple of ponies out of it...I have one comming though

 

real nice numbers bro, only gonna get better too

 

Use a FPR and bump the fuel pressure up a bit and you'll be fine. The program that we have is based off of the JDM Prelude Type S maps and have it slightly modified to run well on a H22A motor in the P28 ECU. The powerband is nice & smooth with our chip, as shown on your dyno. The "Mugen" program is most likely a B-series ECU program and when I've used them in the past, there's a lag in the midrange powerband until VTEC, and then it picks up again.... shows just that on the dyno chart. Obviously if you have the funds & resources, get a Hondata so you can tune it to your motor's fullest potential.

BTW, I've seen a Spoon P13 dyno chart and the gains are also pretty smooth. Not a sudden jump or surge on the chart with the Spoon program on the P13.

 

Arent those numbers kind of low??? Newman did program that chip with hondata for ur hatch?????

 

lovin tha intake...

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by slrh22hatch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Arent those numbers kind of low??? Newman did program that chip with hondata for ur hatch????? </TD></TR></TABLE>
Yeah like i said i have a miss at idle which is prolly causing my numbers to be a little low...But what are you talking about newman programing the chip for my hatch...I dont have a hatch

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Newman &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Use a FPR and bump the fuel pressure up a bit and you'll be fine. The program that we have is based off of the JDM Prelude Type S maps and have it slightly modified to run well on a H22A motor in the P28 ECU. The powerband is nice & smooth with our chip, as shown on your dyno. The "Mugen" program is most likely a B-series ECU program and when I've used them in the past, there's a lag in the midrange powerband until VTEC, and then it picks up again.... shows just that on the dyno chart. Obviously if you have the funds & resources, get a Hondata so you can tune it to your motor's fullest potential.

BTW, I've seen a Spoon P13 dyno chart and the gains are also pretty smooth. Not a sudden jump or surge on the chart with the Spoon program on the P13.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I like the h22 chip better then the b series mugen program i have...like you said the power is a hell of a lot smoother...I have a FPR on the way though so that will be taken care of Hondata is in the near future

 

Red and green are the same program with different vtec engagment points.

-PHiZ

 

2.25" crush bend pipe isn't helping. Looks like the jdmsh!t chip has an earlier vtec switchover.

 

I want that intake! heh

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by LudeSH &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yup the the jdmshit program was lean as hell...Ill soon have hondata though </TD></TR></TABLE>

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 99B16Si &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yea but its lean as hell</TD></TR></TABLE>

2-3 PSI on an FPR and I bet it's near perfect.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by slrh22hatch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Arent those numbers kind of low??? Newman did program that chip with hondata for ur hatch????? </TD></TR></TABLE>

Every motor is different, as well as conditions and dynos.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by slrh22hatch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Arent those numbers kind of low??? Newman did program that chip with hondata for ur hatch????? </TD></TR></TABLE>

I was asking Newman If he made that chip for his hatch ??? And did he make it with Hondata??? Cause I have the chip also. I havent dyno'd it yet.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by slrh22hatch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

I was asking Newman If he made that chip for his hatch ??? And did he make it with Hondata??? Cause I have the chip also. I havent dyno'd it yet. </TD></TR></TABLE>

He made it for his bolton h22 hatch that he road races.

 

Finally!!! Thats all i needed to see. sending my p28 to newman on monday. Thanks to original poster for taking the time to do this

 

The AF looks horrible if you ask me... too lean in between 5 and 7k RPM, nor is the AFR consistent throughout the RPM band.

 

I replaced the h22 jdm A/T cams for the M/T that were in my USDM h22. I got a little different power band, some more torque and about 177whp. It was a pretty inexpensive upgrade considering I had the cams already.


93 Lude
H22jdm
I/H/C/E
USDM M/T cams
15" stock rims
sticky clutch and a not-too-heavy flywheel
-16 1/2 TDC

http://www.bristoldyno.com/veh..._Luke/


177.6 whp
15_ Wtq


Modified by ludedude48 at 3:47 PM 9/12/2004