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Old Dec 5, 2001 | 06:07 AM
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Default Aftermarket Oil Coolers - How do you know what size to use?

The article on the Hybrid board uses an 11" x 8" x 1.5" 48 row cooler, Andrew here on HT uses an Earl's 14 row cooler, XS Engineering uses a 10.75” x 7.00” x 2.00” 19 row cooler for their kits, and I've seen other sizes used as well.

So, how do you properly size an oil cooler to your particular application? I'm building a high compression (12.35:1) N/A motor that will be in a daily driver that sees lots of track time, plus I live in hot and humid Houston, TX (traffic city) -> I'm sure an oil cooler would be very beneficial.

Any insight on this topic would be extremely helpful. TIA.

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Old Dec 5, 2001 | 12:14 PM
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Default Re: Aftermarket Oil Coolers - How do you know what size to use? (GReddyB18C)

the best way is to find out what your oil temp is and then caluclate how much cooler you would like it to be, and then use the appropriate size cooler. don't be so quick to assume that you need one. I know mane dedicated honda track cars that run high CR in hot climates and never have oilt temp problems. and cold oil is just as bad as hot oil...

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Old Dec 5, 2001 | 12:17 PM
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I was hitting 280 degrees during lapping sessions.

I put in a Mocal 24 row cooler and now I stay between 150-155 on he street and ~180ish on the track. Worth every penny . . .







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Old Dec 5, 2001 | 12:53 PM
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Default Re: Aftermarket Oil Coolers - How do you know what size to use? (jeff652)

Does´nt the typr-R hasa stock oil cooler? I think it is cooled from the coolant. The oil cooler is located where the oil filter is. What is the optimal oil temp to have. Please tell me in Celsius!
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Old Dec 5, 2001 | 01:04 PM
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Does´nt the typr-R hasa stock oil cooler? I think it is cooled from the coolant. The oil cooler is located where the oil filter is. What is the optimal oil temp to have. Please tell me in Celsius!
Try this here for those of you who cannot handle the math of C/F conversion...

The stock oil cooler is fine for daily driving - but sub-par for hard track use.


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Old Dec 5, 2001 | 01:20 PM
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Old Dec 5, 2001 | 01:35 PM
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Default Re: Aftermarket Oil Coolers - How do you know what size to use? (jeff652)

What does installing an aftermarket oil cooler entail?

TIA... -Andie
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Old Dec 5, 2001 | 01:45 PM
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Default Re: Aftermarket Oil Coolers - How do you know what size to use? (CarbotechAndie)

This is a good example of one way to do it: (similar to my setup)

http://hybrid.honda-perf.org/tech/oilcooler/index.html
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Old Dec 5, 2001 | 01:55 PM
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Default Re: Aftermarket Oil Coolers - How do you know what size to use? (jeff652)

how does one go about changing oil? wont some of the oil stay in the line and cooler?

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Old Dec 5, 2001 | 01:59 PM
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Default Re: Aftermarket Oil Coolers - How do you know what size to use? (yoshi234)

Remove bumper and open system at lowest point. For me I remove the cooler and drain it and the lines.

Good thing I rarely drive the car and 3k miles is several months apart . . .
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Old Dec 5, 2001 | 02:06 PM
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Default Re: Aftermarket Oil Coolers - How do you know what size to use? (jeff652)

I read somewhere that the use of an aftermarket oil cooler will lower your oil pressure and a high flow oil pump is nessisary. Is this true? Does anyone have one installed and have a pressure gauge?
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Old Dec 5, 2001 | 02:33 PM
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Where can I buy that?

*edit*
where did you put the battery? pics?


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Old Dec 5, 2001 | 02:49 PM
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does anyone have a pic of the stock itr oil cooler, and would i be able to use it on my car? 96rs
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Old Dec 5, 2001 | 02:50 PM
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Looks like a Canton/Mecca oil filter. I am thinking about one as well.

http://www.cmfilters.com

Very Important!!! For those who are using an remote oil cooler, you should run a thermostat in line with the oil cooler. You want to get the oil to proper operating level.

HTH


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Old Dec 6, 2001 | 08:18 AM
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if you want a bad *** oil cooler.....get Greddy IMO....works charms in my hybrid no problems yet

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Old Dec 6, 2001 | 09:56 AM
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Default Re: Aftermarket Oil Coolers - How do you know what size to use? (jeff652)

I was hitting 280 degrees during lapping sessions.
Jeff...280 is pretty high. you may want to check your timing, etc and see what is causing you to produce so much excess heat. Yes the oil cooler is now taking the heat, away but that is more curing the symptoms than any problems.

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Old Dec 6, 2001 | 10:14 AM
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Default Re: Aftermarket Oil Coolers - How do you know what size to use? (davew)

Yeah timing is at 19 degrees. My motor makes power all the way to 23 degrees, but I need to get a J&S to run it that advanced (plus 100 octane)

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