All Motor headers --- just wanted to share our design/fab skills
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This is ERIC from HONDAFIEND all motor crx with our stainless header we did for him. Hope you like the welds and design --



Hope you like



Hope you like
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by FunkDaddyFresh »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">do you have any dyno numbers with that?</TD></TR></TABLE>
From the looks of it, seems to be the H header...
Dyno comparison vs JUN header
The only difference from the one pictured and the one in the dyno thread is the fact that the header pictured above runs a merge collector with megaphone... The particular header dyno'd against the JUN header used a stamp collector and was without the megaphone
Modified by Rick Solis at 11:24 PM 8/16/2004
From the looks of it, seems to be the H header...
Dyno comparison vs JUN header
The only difference from the one pictured and the one in the dyno thread is the fact that the header pictured above runs a merge collector with megaphone... The particular header dyno'd against the JUN header used a stamp collector and was without the megaphone
Modified by Rick Solis at 11:24 PM 8/16/2004
They look liek my friends H series Pro Speed header he just purchased.
Not to knock you guys but i can see right off the bat there are some things that could very easily be improved upon
Modified by eLusive ek4 at 4:59 PM 8/17/2004
Not to knock you guys but i can see right off the bat there are some things that could very easily be improved upon
Modified by eLusive ek4 at 4:59 PM 8/17/2004
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by eLusive ek4 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">They look liek my friends H series SMSP header he just purchased.
Not to knock you guys but i can see right off the bat there are some things that could very easily be improved upon</TD></TR></TABLE>
If your talking about James, he has a "Prospeed" header... Same as pictured above...
The SMSP looks WAY different, more closely compared to a backwards mugen header... The SMSP is a tri Y with 1-4 2-3 pairings... "Burns Style" Or, as you like to put it "the right way"
lol...
Modified by Rick Solis at 5:26 PM 8/17/2004
Not to knock you guys but i can see right off the bat there are some things that could very easily be improved upon</TD></TR></TABLE>
If your talking about James, he has a "Prospeed" header... Same as pictured above...
The SMSP looks WAY different, more closely compared to a backwards mugen header... The SMSP is a tri Y with 1-4 2-3 pairings... "Burns Style" Or, as you like to put it "the right way"
lol...
Modified by Rick Solis at 5:26 PM 8/17/2004
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RMF??? randy monroe fabrication???? if so then you should leave this thread alone. everyone in our area ..ex:RAGE, ELITE, HOOKUPS, WICKED FABRICATION ect has had dealings with randy and every single one ended in tragedy. steve makes some awesome headers that i have personally dynoed.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by whoisthis »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">steve makes what ever he learned from randy and until he comes up with something new Im not impressed</TD></TR></TABLE>
Thats Business...
Everyone knows they are Randy's headers..
But the point is, Steve is making them for AN-R/Prospeed/Ericks Racing/Elite/Bisimoto not Randy... Theres a reason for that...
Thats business, if you have something thats yours and dont want it copied file for a pattent (ala Hytech)... If you dont take the time and spend the money to do so then expect others to replicate it... Like I said, thats business
Modified by Rick Solis at 6:46 PM 8/17/2004
Thats Business...
Everyone knows they are Randy's headers..
But the point is, Steve is making them for AN-R/Prospeed/Ericks Racing/Elite/Bisimoto not Randy... Theres a reason for that...
Thats business, if you have something thats yours and dont want it copied file for a pattent (ala Hytech)... If you dont take the time and spend the money to do so then expect others to replicate it... Like I said, thats business
Modified by Rick Solis at 6:46 PM 8/17/2004
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IT really doesnt matter who steve learned from ... point is he knows his ****! and yes randy is completely awesome but try dealing with him on a buisiness level....GOOD LUCK i speak from experience i brought randy into the import world.
I'm sitting in front of a genuine RMF header and I have to say, that copy it probably the most herendous excuse for a custom race header I have EVER seen. Instead of all you jealous f*cks hating on technology you are unable to reproduce, try taking your feet out of your mouthes and kissing Randy's ***.
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wow i will NEVER kiss anyones *** however yes as i stated before randy is the MAN for headers however..... not for buisiness like i stated before also i have dynoed Steve's (RAGE) allmotor headers and they work ...PERIOD!so we will leave it at that unless you would like me to elaborate further on the randy situation.
I just spoke with Randy and yes, he knows he's no businessman, but neither is Steve, which is why Steve works for Jason at Rage. He also stated that you all are just upset because he left your company and now all you can do is attempt to replicate his designs. Thank you and have a nice day
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NO THANK YOU AND YOU HAVE A NICE DAY but back to the subject we(hookups) have another RELIABLE source for our header fabrication and no im not mad at randy in the least i just CHOOSE not to associate with him. everyday is a good day!
If someone can host the pics for me I have some very nice shots of an RMF header that he fabbed up to retain my AC without powersteering that is currently on my car.
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WOW----- well for all that know me here goes. ( its going to be good so get out your oins and paper)
This is what I posted just to share a header that I think looks good. I in no way said steve-rage-jason or my friend for that matter "designed it." I simply said
"Hope you like the welds and design." So from that we get this type of posts ???????
Thank You ( but we didn't design it
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Randy -
And Randy will continue to make them for how ever long. These can't be exactly the same because othe the motor (deck space )or the megaphone ( divider inside )or the welds ( everyone welds different ) or the tubing style the size but does it really matter. We in no way did I "claim" to be the DESIGN TEAM that made the first ever "crazy header."
Why not show your name ?? whoisthis ??
As for looking like ProSpeed headers, well the same guy makes them. And as for making inprovements, ok we are always looking for new ideas. Thanks
Everyone knows the deal with Chris and myself, but can't argue here. Except for the two shops mentioned desides us are now and have been out of business do to "fab guys" sucking them dry.
Im sorry your are not impressed, something must have touched you to open an account on H-T just to post on this thread. But that's ok not to be impressed life is full of this try of let down's, and if this is you Randy you have gone threw your share of them.....right. As for someone taking what they know and learned from someone else and moving on to bigger things....what's wrong with that??
This is not Randy's header he did not make it nor "design it" this **** was built on the car to fit the car......PERIOD. The reason that steve is doing the produts for these companies is because Randy and these companies have choosen not to do business together anymore.............that is between them, not us.
Thank you - thats all we were trying to show.
We cant get along but we agree here !!!
Was that towards me of Hookups ? Just in case, we in no way took a "genuine" RMF header ( for a deck space motor ) in a crx and moved back and copied it. The word jealous is and me are never in the same sentence. If it is towards Hookups .. we ll he signs on around noon so he will respond.
everyone in So Cal, import - truck - gocart - salers - buyers - racers - moto x knows Randy and everything he brings good and bad no need to go into it. YOu could sohow video and they still wont believe you.
Once again me or Hookips, just in case ------ Define "business man" DC2chik. I think we all would have different responces, but they could all be right. But as for all of us being "upset" that he left our cmpanies ???? wow he helped close down two shops that I know of ---- HOOKUPS / RAGE and Randy simply decided he was too much to deal with, end of story. And untill 30 days ago we had not even wanted to do any headers - and this is why we stay out of it.
Thank you again
Any custom header can be fab'd you to fit any set up. But post the pics im sure it's really nice.
You are on a different level then a header
Ok to finish this up ------ I simply wanted to shop a header we did for a great friend and a great guy. We thought it was nice enouph to show it and share it, and also think that the guy that built it Steve Brown is a great welder and he is very talented. Not alot of people are talented and business smart all in one. It takes teams to pull off companies that last and can go threw highs and low's that this market bring's. When one person from a company says the word "I" it's not to take the glory from the other members of the team/shop it's just a word used in a sentence. If we are trying to go crazy over the "COPY" factor then open a Turbo Magazine from 98-99 and look at some of the frist honda's running. Then look at any real perfromance book of now. COPY COPY COPY If people didnt take other ideas and inprove on them then we would all still be stuck in the 12sec turbo cars at the race track. Look at the Allmotor class they copy and build off each other to just gain .2 off their times. So get over the copy stuff. If the name that is posting is really RANDY / WHOISTHIS then simply state it, it would make your arguements mean more --- just a thought.
RageDzine ----- Jason @ Rage
Originally Posted by RageDzine
This is ERIC from HONDAFIEND all motor crx with our stainless header we did for him. Hope you like the welds and design
"Hope you like the welds and design." So from that we get this type of posts ???????
Originally Posted by R...
looks badass! good job...
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Originally Posted by whoisthis
they look alot like the ones that RMF has been making for a couple of years .maybe you guys should come up with some new designs [steve]
And Randy will continue to make them for how ever long. These can't be exactly the same because othe the motor (deck space )or the megaphone ( divider inside )or the welds ( everyone welds different ) or the tubing style the size but does it really matter. We in no way did I "claim" to be the DESIGN TEAM that made the first ever "crazy header."
Why not show your name ?? whoisthis ??
Originally Posted by eLusive ek4
They look liek my friends H series Pro Speed header he just purchased. Not to knock you guys but i can see right off the bat there are some things that could very easily be improved upon
Originally Posted by HOOKUPS
RMF??? randy monroe fabrication???? if so then you should leave this thread alone. everyone in our area ..ex:RAGE, ELITE, HOOKUPS, WICKED FABRICATION ect has had dealings with randy and every single one ended in tragedy. steve makes some awesome headers that i have personally dynoed.
Originally Posted by whoisthis
steve makes what ever he learned from randy and until he comes up with something new Im not impressed
Originally Posted by Rick Solis
Thats Business...Everyone knows they are Randy's headers..
But the point is, Steve is making them for AN-R/Prospeed/Ericks Racing /Elite / Bisimoto not Randy... Theres a reason for that...Thats business, if you have something thats yours and dont want it copied file for a pattent (ala Hytech)... If you dont take the time and spend the money to do so then expect others to replicate it... Like I said, thats business
But the point is, Steve is making them for AN-R/Prospeed/Ericks Racing /Elite / Bisimoto not Randy... Theres a reason for that...Thats business, if you have something thats yours and dont want it copied file for a pattent (ala Hytech)... If you dont take the time and spend the money to do so then expect others to replicate it... Like I said, thats business
Originally Posted by kovert
that is realy impressive nice welds
Originally Posted by HOOKUPS
IT really doesnt matter who steve learned from ... point is he knows his ****! and yes randy is completely awesome but try dealing with him on a buisiness level....GOOD LUCK i speak from experience i brought randy into the import world.
Originally Posted by DC2chik
I'm sitting in front of a genuine RMF header and I have to say, that copy it probably the most herendous excuse for a custom race header I have EVER seen. Instead of all you jealous f*cks hating on technology you are unable to reproduce, try taking your feet out of your mouthes and kissing Randy's ***.
Originally Posted by HOOKUPS
wow i will NEVER kiss anyones *** however yes as i stated before randy is the MAN for headers however..... not for buisiness like i stated before also i have dynoed Steve's (RAGE) allmotor headers and they work ...PERIOD!so we will leave it at that unless you would like me to elaborate further on the randy situation.
Originally Posted by DC2chik
I just spoke with Randy and yes, he knows he's no businessman, but neither is Steve, which is why Steve works for Jason at Rage. He also stated that you all are just upset because he left your company and now all you can do is attempt to replicate his designs. Thank you and have a nice day
Originally Posted by nota944mechanic
beautiful headers. nice craftsmanship.
Originally Posted by asubennett
If someone can host the pics for me I have some very nice shots of an RMF header that he fabbed up to retain my AC without powersteering that is currently on my car.
Jason
Jason
Originally Posted by Fabman
i have some pics that i would like to have posted of a turbo scoop i made today
Ok to finish this up ------ I simply wanted to shop a header we did for a great friend and a great guy. We thought it was nice enouph to show it and share it, and also think that the guy that built it Steve Brown is a great welder and he is very talented. Not alot of people are talented and business smart all in one. It takes teams to pull off companies that last and can go threw highs and low's that this market bring's. When one person from a company says the word "I" it's not to take the glory from the other members of the team/shop it's just a word used in a sentence. If we are trying to go crazy over the "COPY" factor then open a Turbo Magazine from 98-99 and look at some of the frist honda's running. Then look at any real perfromance book of now. COPY COPY COPY If people didnt take other ideas and inprove on them then we would all still be stuck in the 12sec turbo cars at the race track. Look at the Allmotor class they copy and build off each other to just gain .2 off their times. So get over the copy stuff. If the name that is posting is really RANDY / WHOISTHIS then simply state it, it would make your arguements mean more --- just a thought.
RageDzine ----- Jason @ Rage
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Fabman »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i have some pics that i would like to have posted of a turbo scoop i made today
</TD></TR></TABLE><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Fabman »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i have some pics that i would like to have posted of a turbo scoop i made today
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post it!
</TD></TR></TABLE><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Fabman »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i have some pics that i would like to have posted of a turbo scoop i made today
</TD></TR></TABLE>post it!


