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Old Aug 16, 2004 | 04:50 AM
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Default filling DX tranny MTF.... which hole?

this is for my buddies 88 DX 4r. I think it's suppose to take 1.75 quarts of honda MTF.
I know that you can fill it from the VSS, but what is another place?


Also how do you know if it's full or at the right level of fluids?
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Old Aug 16, 2004 | 04:58 AM
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Default Re: filling DX tranny MTF.... which hole? (ApexiChild)

you pull the drain plug out...drain the old oil...
just above that there is a large bolt...pull that off

i use the breather ... there is a plug on it just about where the cable connects to the tranny...there is a plug on it. get some vacuum hose and then attach it to a funel. once oil comes out the large bolt hole your set.

its simple.

the vss spot is just as good.
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Old Aug 16, 2004 | 07:25 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by manson &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">you pull the drain plug out...drain the old oil...
just above that there is a large bolt...pull that off

i use the breather ... there is a plug on it just about where the cable connects to the tranny...there is a plug on it. get some vacuum hose and then attach it to a funel. once oil comes out the large bolt hole your set.</TD></TR></TABLE>

what do you mean by using a "breather"
picture please of where that bolt/hole is?
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Old Aug 16, 2004 | 07:34 AM
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your supposed to use 10x30 motor oil in a manual honda tranny
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Old Aug 16, 2004 | 07:36 AM
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your supposed to use 10w30 motor oil in a manual honda tranny
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Old Aug 16, 2004 | 08:28 AM
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Default Re: filling DX tranny MTF.... which hole? (ApexiChild)

On the passenger side behind the CV shaft:

You fill it up until it runs out the filler hole..
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Old Aug 16, 2004 | 08:33 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by fatboyslim44 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">your supposed to use 10x30 motor oil in a manual honda tranny
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Oh wow - I wonder what manual transmission fluid/oil is supposed to go in then???
should he replace his turn signal blinker fluid with that?



No. You are supposed to put "10x30 motor oil" in your MOTOR.

You are supposed to put transmission oil in your transmission.
HONDA MTF came from the factory... not MOTOR oil.
MTF = Manual Transmission Fluid.
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Old Aug 16, 2004 | 08:47 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 4drEF &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Oh wow - I wonder what manual transmission fluid/oil is supposed to go in then???
should he replace his turn signal blinker fluid with that?



No. You are supposed to put "10x30 motor oil" in your MOTOR.

You are supposed to put transmission oil in your transmission.
HONDA MTF came from the factory... not MOTOR oil.
MTF = Manual Transmission Fluid.</TD></TR></TABLE>


You CAN use regular motor oil in your tranny. Its the same weight. Nothing wrong with using Honda MTF, but just keep in mind regular motor oil is another option. That's what i use and no problems.
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Old Aug 16, 2004 | 09:06 AM
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Default Re: filling DX tranny MTF.... which hole? (88 rex)

The factory service manual calls for 1.8 liters of
SAE 10w30 or 10w40 oil rated SE of SF grade...
{which is motor oil, not gear oil}
Some GM manual transmissions use Dextron ATF instead of gear oil..
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Old Aug 16, 2004 | 09:29 AM
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Didn't say it would not work, but mtf does has other additives that will help the tranny last longer.
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Old Aug 16, 2004 | 12:08 PM
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so what is this breather that he asked about? anybody have pics?

I'm doing this to my wagon this weekend. Also, I've heard that GM synchromesh will prolong the life of my tranny (at 237k I'm starting to worry), but some have said that it's too heavy for a honda tranny and although gear grinding may lessen, the overall life of the tranny will decrease. Who's right? Has anybody actually had a bad experience adding this stuff?

thx
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Old Aug 16, 2004 | 12:13 PM
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i don't have a pic, but if you look right above the cable mount you'll see it. most of the time there is a black rubber thing on it. just look. its in plain view.
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Old Aug 16, 2004 | 01:05 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 88DXCRX &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The factory service manual calls for 1.8 liters of
SAE 10w30 or 10w40 oil rated SE of SF grade...
{which is motor oil, not gear oil}
Some GM manual transmissions use Dextron ATF instead of gear oil..</TD></TR></TABLE>

Phil not sure what program you have at work but have you read about what they tell you to use in the newer trans, they tell you to use Honda mtf, they say regular motor oil can be used for a short period but it will cause damage in the long run, sounds like b.s to me.
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Old Aug 16, 2004 | 04:04 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ApexiChild &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

what do you mean by using a "breather"
picture please of where that bolt/hole is?
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yea i want to see a pic....
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Old Aug 16, 2004 | 04:23 PM
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I have a b16 I am working on for a customer, I will take a pic of the hole I use to fill the trans up.
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Old Aug 17, 2004 | 04:09 AM
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so you just fill it up through that hole until it SEEPS out of the same hole correct?
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Old Aug 17, 2004 | 04:40 AM
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nope you fill the "breather" until the oil comes out of the correct fill hole. this just makes it easier...IMO
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Old Aug 17, 2004 | 07:27 PM
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Default Re: filling DX tranny MTF.... which hole? (manson)

Can you really refill your tranny through the VSS hole?
Meaning pulling the VSS cable and filling it through there?
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Old Aug 22, 2004 | 11:36 AM
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well i tried a new method today... since it was time to change my driver side axle anyways... i purchased a transmission/large gear on & off nozzle $2.50 from WalMart (ATTENTION WALMART SHOPPERS - price check on automotives dept.)... basically you can just screw this on & off device onto the transmission oil bottle and this also has a flexible nozzle hose... o yeah this would also work for changing motor oil...

so yeah... i used that on&off device and i just use the axle hole to fill my transmission fluid... i got enough room in my firewall side to lift the bottle to that side and adjust the flow of the oil into that hole....

i will try to get pics up by next week
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Old Aug 22, 2004 | 12:14 PM
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need help to take the filler pluge off!!! i used a 17mm and i can t take the fu*ker off should i heat it up?
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Old Aug 22, 2004 | 01:07 PM
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i just loosen and remove the reverse sensor and fill it there. since it's in the front, it's soo much easier and cleaner.
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Old Aug 23, 2004 | 01:30 PM
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where is that at<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 90 87 90 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i just loosen and remove the reverse sensor and fill it there. since it's in the front, it's soo much easier and cleaner.</TD></TR></TABLE>
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Old Aug 23, 2004 | 02:50 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by igotcrx &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">need help to take the filler pluge off!!! i used a 17mm and i can t take the fu*ker off should i heat it up?</TD></TR></TABLE>

yea u can use heat to warp that bolt on...

or

you can use the PB catalyst bolt spray or WD-40 and also use a long pipe to help torque out the bolt.. either that or use a 1/2" breaker bar if room allows it...
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Old Aug 23, 2004 | 04:31 PM
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cant u just take the starter off and unbolt the bolt right under the starter and fill it from there? and fill it til it starts coming back out correct?
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Old Aug 23, 2004 | 04:54 PM
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Thats how I always do it, but its a lot of work. I have to take my strut bar, intake, and starter off to get to the plug on the top. I'd rather do that to make sure the oil isn't just bouncing off of the differential and seeping out again...
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