I ran 13.7s at the track.
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First time on the track with my ITR.
Modified by Chiller at 4:15 PM 7/18/2004
First time on the track with my ITR.
Modified by Chiller at 4:15 PM 7/18/2004
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First time on slicks, first time on the track!
SMSP header
SMSP high flow cat
SMSP catback
Comptech Ice Box with K&N filter
AEM underdrive pulleys
16" slicks, these slicks were for slalom racing...
Rear seats removed
Spare tire removed
AC removed
Sparco Corsa front seats about a -20 lb weight reduction from the stock seats.
SMSP header
SMSP high flow cat
SMSP catback
Comptech Ice Box with K&N filter
AEM underdrive pulleys
16" slicks, these slicks were for slalom racing...
Rear seats removed
Spare tire removed
AC removed
Sparco Corsa front seats about a -20 lb weight reduction from the stock seats.
I was skeptical, but you posted a video to clear all that up.
I checked it frame by frame.
Your car cleared the staging lights at about 37.03 seconds into the vid. The timing light tripped at exactly 51.53 seconds. That's around 14.5 seconds (amazingly close to what the board said, I think).
Where's that .8 seconds difference?
Not trying to be a dick, but I've never heard of adding RT to your ET... and you DID post the vid for all to scrutinize.
I checked it frame by frame.
Your car cleared the staging lights at about 37.03 seconds into the vid. The timing light tripped at exactly 51.53 seconds. That's around 14.5 seconds (amazingly close to what the board said, I think).
Where's that .8 seconds difference?
Not trying to be a dick, but I've never heard of adding RT to your ET... and you DID post the vid for all to scrutinize.
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I was told by the organisers that the RT was added to the times. A friend of mine also ran that day and tested with his apexi RSM and by him subracting his RT time from the final time that was posted the RSM showed the same number by 0.05 seconds off.
To make sense of this I believe in this event the time starts once the back of my car leaves the sensor. The rear end leaves at 37.80 seconds and ends at 51.53 s. Which makes the 13.7s run...
To make sense of this I believe in this event the time starts once the back of my car leaves the sensor. The rear end leaves at 37.80 seconds and ends at 51.53 s. Which makes the 13.7s run...
Nice times... I ran 13.5's last year with a stock ITR with only CAI and Apexi WS exhaust in my EM1, so I'd say you could prolly come down another few tenths with practice...
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Chiller »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">To make sense of this I believe in this event the time starts once the back of my car leaves the sensor. The rear end leaves at 37.80 seconds and ends at 51.53 s. Which makes the 13.7s run... </TD></TR></TABLE>
No, sorry. The timer start when both staging lights are uncovered by the front tire(this is referred to as 'roll out'). Not when the back of the car leaves. If you don't believe me, post your time slip and I'll put down your video's times next to your slip times. If what you said about the back of the car was really the case, your '60 will be about 1.5 seconds (which I really doubt). Unless the Swiss do drag racing TOTALLY different than everyone else in the world, you ran a 14.5 1/4. Considering the track conditions (>2000 feet, 90F, high humidity) I think I would be OK with that time if I were you.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by erics99si »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Nice times... I ran 13.5's last year with a stock ITR with only CAI and Apexi WS exhaust in my EM1, so I'd say you could prolly come down another few tenths with practice... </TD></TR></TABLE>
No way. Stock + I/E ITR's don't run that fast. What track was this at and do you have a slip/video/track pic? What was your trap?
No, sorry. The timer start when both staging lights are uncovered by the front tire(this is referred to as 'roll out'). Not when the back of the car leaves. If you don't believe me, post your time slip and I'll put down your video's times next to your slip times. If what you said about the back of the car was really the case, your '60 will be about 1.5 seconds (which I really doubt). Unless the Swiss do drag racing TOTALLY different than everyone else in the world, you ran a 14.5 1/4. Considering the track conditions (>2000 feet, 90F, high humidity) I think I would be OK with that time if I were you.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by erics99si »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Nice times... I ran 13.5's last year with a stock ITR with only CAI and Apexi WS exhaust in my EM1, so I'd say you could prolly come down another few tenths with practice... </TD></TR></TABLE>
No way. Stock + I/E ITR's don't run that fast. What track was this at and do you have a slip/video/track pic? What was your trap?
I would have to agree with nathan on this one. I outrun itr most of the time and never have I seen one with just a CAI and exhaust run a 13.5. Maybe going downhill with a 100 mile wind at your back. Sorry dude we need proof
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I was wrong about what i said about the rear of the car. Sorry.
I wish I had a time slip. They told me that it didnt work and that all i could see was the total time and the reaction time... At the track everyone was saying that their times weren't normal and that their times were at least a second off. Im trying to contact the people incharge of the track that I was running in to get answers. The video doesnt lie. And a time like that in those weather conditions is good especially on those type of tires, autocross slicks....
Ill keep you posted!
I wish I had a time slip. They told me that it didnt work and that all i could see was the total time and the reaction time... At the track everyone was saying that their times weren't normal and that their times were at least a second off. Im trying to contact the people incharge of the track that I was running in to get answers. The video doesnt lie. And a time like that in those weather conditions is good especially on those type of tires, autocross slicks....
Ill keep you posted!
My 13.5's were all around 99-100mph... Best was 13.501 at 100.33mph... The Motor was completely stock internally with the addition of AEM CAI and the Apexi Exhaust... Car was a 99 Civic Si and I was on 22x8x15 slicks... I know its hard to beleive cause I'd call BS too... I'll get you the video of me making multiple 13.5 runs here soon... The track was Portland International Raceway... Portland, Oregon last year on Halloween actually.
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Me too.... But i cant they didnt give me a time slip... Ill be running in a couple weeks so ill be able to know where i really stand with real time slips. This is starting to bother me in not knowing exactly whats going on.
Went to find the video link from my site and my friend has moved it to somewhere else so I'll post it as soon as I talk to him and find out what the new link will be. I don't have a scanner to scan all the slips from that night though I do have 16 runs I made that night so I'll just type them out for the time being until I can get the video up so for you people raising your BS Flags, just be patient... Again the stats on the car is that the car weight roughly 2550lbs with me in the car.. Rear seats & Passanger seat were removed... Mods other than the ITR swap were AEM CAI, Apexi WS Exhaust and a Exedy Organic clutch to handle the multiple 8K drops... I was on M/T 22x8x15 ET Drag slicks... other than that, its a average daily driven Si Coupe with PS, CC, etc... NO A/C though.
Pass #1 (7800 RPM drop, 12psi Tire Pressure):
R/T: .562
60': 2.160
330: 5.895
1/8: 8.995
MPH: 79.76
1000: 11.678
1/4: 13.965
MPH: 97.92
Pass #2 (7800 RPM drop, 12psi Tire Pressure):
R/T: .538
60': 1.890
330: 5.572
1/8: 8.640
MPH: 79.87
1000: 11.312
1/4: 13.586
MPH: 99.59
Pass #3 (7800 RPM drop, 12psi Tire Pressure):
R/T: .646
60': 1.873
330: 5.575
1/8: 8.645
MPH: 79.72
1000: 11.320
1/4: 13.595
MPH: 99.63
Pass #4 (7800 RPM drop, 12psi Tire Pressure, Bounced Rev Limiter in 3rd):
R/T: .626
60': 1.911
330: 5.619
1/8: 8.695
MPH: 78.91
1000: 11.389
1/4: 13.673
MPH: 99.23
Pass #5 (7800 RPM drop, 12psi Tire Pressure):
R/T: .524
60': 1.900
330: 5.540
1/8: 8.584
MPH: 80.24
1000: 11.242
1/4: 13.501
MPH: 100.33
Pass #6 (7800 RPM drop, 13psi Tire Pressure):
R/T: .498
60': 1.873
330: 5.558
1/8: 8.623
MPH: 80.05
1000: 11.299
1/4: 13.580
MPH: 98.64
Pass #7 (7800 RPM drop, 12psi Tire Pressure):
R/T: .593
60': 1.892
330: 5.569
1/8: 8.627
MPH: 80.07
1000: 11.302
1/4: 13.584
MPH: 98.04
Pass #8 (7800 RPM drop, 12psi Tire Pressure):
R/T: .475
60': 1.923
330: 5.612
1/8: 8.666
MPH: 79.87
1000: 11.328
1/4: 13.592
MPH: 99.97
Pass #9 (7800 RPM drop, 12psi Tire Pressure):
R/T: .708
60': 1.912
330: 5.595
1/8: 8.648
MPH: 80.68
1000: 11.305
1/4: 13.567
MPH: 99.35
Pass #10 (7800 RPM drop, 12psi Tire Pressure):
R/T: .656
60': 1.873
330: 5.522
1/8: 8.567
MPH: 80.27
1000: 11.234
1/4: 13.507
MPH: 98.95
Pass #11 (7800 RPM drop, 12psi Tire Pressure):
R/T: .646
60': 1.926
330: 5.583
1/8: 8.634
MPH: 80.23
1000: 11.293
1/4: 13.560
MPH: 99.92
Pass #12 (7800 RPM drop, 12psi Tire Pressure):
R/T: .669
60': 1.888
330: 5.543
1/8: 8.591
MPH: 80.15
1000: 11.251
1/4: 13.516
MPH: 99.90
Pass #13 (7800 RPM drop, 12psi Tire Pressure):
R/T: .698
60': 1.885
330: 5.536
1/8: 8.588
MPH: 80.09
1000: 11.253
1/4: 13.521
MPH: 99.85
Pass #14 (7800 RPM drop, 12psi Tire Pressure):
R/T: .727
60': 1.854
330: 5.558
1/8: 8.624
MPH: 80.17
1000: 11.298
1/4: 13.577
MPH: 98.69
Pass #15 (5500 RPM drop, 35psi Tire Pressure Falken Azenis):
R/T: .633
60': 2.228
330: 6.004
1/8: 9.095
MPH: 78.94
1000: 11.758
1/4: 13.934
MPH: 99.27
Pass #16 (6500 RPM drop, 17psi Tire Pressure Falken Azenis):
R/T: .497
60': 2.150
330: 5.966
1/8: 9.001
MPH: 79.77
1000: 11.681
1/4: 13.837
MPH: 100.26
These times were all ran at Portland, Oregon's International Raceway on Oct. 31, 2003 which was the last time the my car has been to the track since I've tore it down and began my build up. Starting run was at 9:14pm and the final run was 1:14am... Shooting for mid 12's this season whenever I get the car back together which should be hopefully mid August... Damn that took a long time to type each slip out.. enjoy!
Pass #1 (7800 RPM drop, 12psi Tire Pressure):
R/T: .562
60': 2.160
330: 5.895
1/8: 8.995
MPH: 79.76
1000: 11.678
1/4: 13.965
MPH: 97.92
Pass #2 (7800 RPM drop, 12psi Tire Pressure):
R/T: .538
60': 1.890
330: 5.572
1/8: 8.640
MPH: 79.87
1000: 11.312
1/4: 13.586
MPH: 99.59
Pass #3 (7800 RPM drop, 12psi Tire Pressure):
R/T: .646
60': 1.873
330: 5.575
1/8: 8.645
MPH: 79.72
1000: 11.320
1/4: 13.595
MPH: 99.63
Pass #4 (7800 RPM drop, 12psi Tire Pressure, Bounced Rev Limiter in 3rd):
R/T: .626
60': 1.911
330: 5.619
1/8: 8.695
MPH: 78.91
1000: 11.389
1/4: 13.673
MPH: 99.23
Pass #5 (7800 RPM drop, 12psi Tire Pressure):
R/T: .524
60': 1.900
330: 5.540
1/8: 8.584
MPH: 80.24
1000: 11.242
1/4: 13.501
MPH: 100.33
Pass #6 (7800 RPM drop, 13psi Tire Pressure):
R/T: .498
60': 1.873
330: 5.558
1/8: 8.623
MPH: 80.05
1000: 11.299
1/4: 13.580
MPH: 98.64
Pass #7 (7800 RPM drop, 12psi Tire Pressure):
R/T: .593
60': 1.892
330: 5.569
1/8: 8.627
MPH: 80.07
1000: 11.302
1/4: 13.584
MPH: 98.04
Pass #8 (7800 RPM drop, 12psi Tire Pressure):
R/T: .475
60': 1.923
330: 5.612
1/8: 8.666
MPH: 79.87
1000: 11.328
1/4: 13.592
MPH: 99.97
Pass #9 (7800 RPM drop, 12psi Tire Pressure):
R/T: .708
60': 1.912
330: 5.595
1/8: 8.648
MPH: 80.68
1000: 11.305
1/4: 13.567
MPH: 99.35
Pass #10 (7800 RPM drop, 12psi Tire Pressure):
R/T: .656
60': 1.873
330: 5.522
1/8: 8.567
MPH: 80.27
1000: 11.234
1/4: 13.507
MPH: 98.95
Pass #11 (7800 RPM drop, 12psi Tire Pressure):
R/T: .646
60': 1.926
330: 5.583
1/8: 8.634
MPH: 80.23
1000: 11.293
1/4: 13.560
MPH: 99.92
Pass #12 (7800 RPM drop, 12psi Tire Pressure):
R/T: .669
60': 1.888
330: 5.543
1/8: 8.591
MPH: 80.15
1000: 11.251
1/4: 13.516
MPH: 99.90
Pass #13 (7800 RPM drop, 12psi Tire Pressure):
R/T: .698
60': 1.885
330: 5.536
1/8: 8.588
MPH: 80.09
1000: 11.253
1/4: 13.521
MPH: 99.85
Pass #14 (7800 RPM drop, 12psi Tire Pressure):
R/T: .727
60': 1.854
330: 5.558
1/8: 8.624
MPH: 80.17
1000: 11.298
1/4: 13.577
MPH: 98.69
Pass #15 (5500 RPM drop, 35psi Tire Pressure Falken Azenis):
R/T: .633
60': 2.228
330: 6.004
1/8: 9.095
MPH: 78.94
1000: 11.758
1/4: 13.934
MPH: 99.27
Pass #16 (6500 RPM drop, 17psi Tire Pressure Falken Azenis):
R/T: .497
60': 2.150
330: 5.966
1/8: 9.001
MPH: 79.77
1000: 11.681
1/4: 13.837
MPH: 100.26
These times were all ran at Portland, Oregon's International Raceway on Oct. 31, 2003 which was the last time the my car has been to the track since I've tore it down and began my build up. Starting run was at 9:14pm and the final run was 1:14am... Shooting for mid 12's this season whenever I get the car back together which should be hopefully mid August... Damn that took a long time to type each slip out.. enjoy!
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by erics99si »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Again the stats on the car is that the car weight roughly 2550lbs with me in the car.. Rear seats & Passanger seat were removed... Mods other than the ITR swap were AEM CAI, Apexi WS Exhaust and a Exedy Organic clutch to handle the multiple 8K drops... I was on M/T 22x8x15 ET Drag slicks... other than that, its a average daily driven Si Coupe with PS, CC, etc... NO A/C though.
Pass #5 (7800 RPM drop, 12psi Tire Pressure):
R/T: .524
60': 1.900
330: 5.540
1/8: 8.584
MPH: 80.24
1000: 11.242
1/4: 13.501
MPH: 100.33
</TD></TR></TABLE>
Well, I'm more than satisfied. 2550 lbs w/ driver and B18C5 w/ I+E on slicks w/ a 1.8 60' will definitely be able to pull a 13.5 ET.
Good job.
You didn't mention the weight reduction or grabby clutch before. That's part of the reason I doubted you. Also, you must be quite a skinny ****** if the car is down to 2550 w/ you in it.
Pass #5 (7800 RPM drop, 12psi Tire Pressure):
R/T: .524
60': 1.900
330: 5.540
1/8: 8.584
MPH: 80.24
1000: 11.242
1/4: 13.501
MPH: 100.33
</TD></TR></TABLE>
Well, I'm more than satisfied. 2550 lbs w/ driver and B18C5 w/ I+E on slicks w/ a 1.8 60' will definitely be able to pull a 13.5 ET.
Good job.
You didn't mention the weight reduction or grabby clutch before. That's part of the reason I doubted you. Also, you must be quite a skinny ****** if the car is down to 2550 w/ you in it.
I weigh in at about 170lbs... There really isn't any weight reduction done to the car other than the rear seats and passanger seat being removed.. anyhow.. video should be up this morning for you guys to view.
Modified by erics99si at 10:04 AM 7/20/2004
Modified by erics99si at 10:04 AM 7/20/2004
what we've all been waiting for...lol (video is 60.7M so you'll get your moneys worth
)
* Right Click Link Save As* (if the first link doesn't work, then I've posted the domain address where its at below and you can click on it, then right click save as on the "portland_drag_race" link.. Enjoy!
http://sirrommotorsports.com/s...epart
or
http://sirrommotorsports.com/s...ideos/
Modified by erics99si at 11:00 AM 7/20/2004
)* Right Click Link Save As* (if the first link doesn't work, then I've posted the domain address where its at below and you can click on it, then right click save as on the "portland_drag_race" link.. Enjoy!
http://sirrommotorsports.com/s...epart
or
http://sirrommotorsports.com/s...ideos/
Modified by erics99si at 11:00 AM 7/20/2004
good stuff man... Anyone can be super proud of breaking 13's with a near stock ITR setup.. (it definately takes some skilled driving)
Gotta love the H-T haters though... haha
Gotta love the H-T haters though... haha



