just want to know what you guys think, we all know how expensive can be putting a k20 motor into an eg, but what would u guys do? if u had the funds to do either, a stock k20 into the eg civic or a fully built b18c1 (we thinking all motor and lets say around an $8000 budget)

 

when a k20 into an eg becomes like 5k for everything then i might consider..

so until then b series all the way!

 

b18c mang!!

 

A K20 is just 4650 shipped, for those that didn't know; I'm not sure how much the mounts and whatever other peices you might need (btw I don't think you can have power steering yet), but K20 is the way to go. "Theres no replacement for displacement," and with an engine that will give 20whp with just a damn intake, how can you go wrong.

Integras are not in production anymore and b18's are the engines most sought out for swaps. They are already incredibly overpriced, and as stock of these engines goes down, expect the price to only rise. So if a b18c5 is 4100 and a k20 is 4650, I think the decision is quite simple.

k20 all the way
or build up an sohc (d16y8 or z6) with those 8g's.

btw I got my prices from http://japanstarmotors.com/honda.html

 

man.. more and more people swing the K20 way... thats awesome..

K20 if you got the $$

 

LOL.
You obviously havent ridden in a k20 powered hatch.

Or else you wouldn't have made the poll

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by phobi9 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">A K20 is just 4650 shipped, for those that didn't know; I'm not sure how much the mounts and whatever other peices you might need (btw I don't think you can have power steering yet), but K20 is the way to go. "Theres no replacement for displacement," and with an engine that will give 20whp with just a damn intake, how can you go wrong.

Integras are not in production anymore and b18's are the engines most sought out for swaps. They are already incredibly overpriced, and as stock of these engines goes down, expect the price to only rise. So if a b18c5 is 4100 and a k20 is 4650, I think the decision is quite simple.

k20 all the way
or build up an sohc (d16y8 or z6) with those 8g's.

btw I got my prices from http://japanstarmotors.com/honda.html</TD></TR></TABLE>

There are some holes in your logic and pricing:

K20A swap requires:

Mount kit: - $550.00 or so
Wiring harness that makes it near plug and play - TBA (expect over $300.00 easily)
Custom axles - $360.00
Custom header - $600-$900.00 - expect closer to over $900.00
Hondata K Pro - $900.00 (or else ghetto rig the immobilizer and have a shitty running engine)
DYNO TUNING - $$$ USUALLY $150.00 PER HOUR
New radiator - $$$
Fuel lines, regulator - $250.00 or so

There's more ****, but you get the idea.

You cannot even begin to compare the price of a B series swap and a K series swap - the K series (Type S) will be at least $3,000.00 more expensive than a B series Type R swap.

I actually really priced the K20 swap for myself and I was even prepared to sell my B18C5 full swap for $5,500.00 thinking surely that'd be almost enough for even a K20A2 swap tuned, installed by myself at my shop, etc. but **** no - it wasn't even close. I'd probably say the Type S swap would have ended up costing me $8,500.00 if I got super lucky and got hook ups on parts, dyno time, etc.

Someone please argue against me on this - I'm feeling very confrontational today.

 

K20 all the way

Once u have the K20 in the hatch the potential is so much greater then the b18.

 

one thing i dont get is that how are people getting soo much power out of a stock k20 with nothing but a chip and reving it out to like 9500 but the rsx guys from what i have seen are not even coming close to that kind of power..

 

If money aint a big deal do the k-swap. I know you said stock engine but c'mon stock for how long...

The k is making way more torque and torque equals fun.

How about a k24/20 swap? Like this.
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=914030

 

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Because those are different motors... the k20a2 (rsx type s) is rated at 200HP and has lower compression than the k20a coming fro the JDM type r DC5 integra, the cams have different duaration, etc...

 

well if I could vote I'd vote K20. It ****** hauls plain and simple

 

Another fine creation from Honda. I say all their motors are good, just pick the one that suits you the best.

 

with the money, stock k20a....lighter than most b-series. incredible power stock form. and you can do much more later. whatever fits your budget.

 

I like the k20, even though you could have a built gsr the k20 will be faster when you have the funds to build the motor.

 

hell i would go k20 but as everyone has stated, its the funds, money don't come easy

 

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K series owns all

 

K20.. I started my project with the intent of boost, so the choice between an all motor B or a stock K makes me go K. I really don't know about B18C1's, aside from one local guy I ahve yet to see one just stock break into the 13's, let alone low or mid 14's.

 

if i had the money to waste then yea i would go k20a

 

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**** you'd get along w/ my girlfriend than, she constantly has her 'dukes' up... wanna take her?

i currently have the C5 in my 99 civic. i like it, but if i had the money and time to waste i'd definately venture down the K20R route.

 

i **** on a k-series ek today , wasn't very impressed... b series

 

well if you spend the money putting in a K series, you will still be able to spend the money 2 years down the track rebuilding it to have twice the power... where as you build a B series now 2 years down the track you can rebuild it to have about the same power as you have now.. Thats my opinion and the reason I went to the K-series in my hatch.
With a Stock K you can run 200-240whp with a rebuilt K when all the parts hit the market over the next you years you'll be able to run 300-400whp without any real hassles..
The top allmotor B-series have about twice the Factory power of the Type R motors, be interesting to run the same power out of the K20A-R..
There will be more K-series 9 second FWD N/A cars than B-series, its just time..

 

I agree on the fact that there will be more k-series hitting 9's , and I bet it'll be sooner then we all think . But for now if the question is B18 or K20 with a 8000 budget , I would go with the B18C, kuz u always want to freshly rebuild the engine while u have it out, mounts , ecu, harness, etc.. its gonna be more than 8K for the K-series and the art of that is stil being perfected and the b-series is pretty much very commonly done!

 

i voted K but....H all the way