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Old Jul 4, 2004 | 07:15 PM
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Default 5lug VS 4 lug weight difference..here's your answer

ok i have been going thru many ideas to bring the weight down in my 94 CX....2450 with me in it........and since i like to drag and cant run 13" with the 5x114 i opt to go back to my old 4x114 96 ITR set up....figuring also it was lighter because of the less beefier hubs etc.....
i tried finding a post on here and there were just guessing....here are you actual figures


5x114 front is 44lbs


4x114 front is 37 lbs for a lost of 7lbs


rears is where the the most came from

5x114 rears are 42-43 lbs


4x114 rears are 30lbs lost of 12-13 lbs


total lost of 38-40 lbs.....the 5 lug has light weight extended studs and powerslot rotors which are lighter the your standard rotors...
the 4x114 has standard rotors....
i was thinking i would have lost 50lbs but its still weight i dont want.....with lighter rotors the 4x114 will have even more lost weight

my reason was to get rid of drivetrain weight!!!!! hope it make a difference!!!
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Old Jul 4, 2004 | 07:21 PM
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thanks. this is a great informative post.
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Old Jul 4, 2004 | 08:04 PM
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Old Jul 4, 2004 | 08:26 PM
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Good post. This should go in the FAQ
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Old Jul 4, 2004 | 08:28 PM
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you have been banned from the 5 lug club.
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Old Jul 4, 2004 | 08:29 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 137 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">you have been banned from the 5 lug club. </TD></TR></TABLE>

dont trip potato chip.....once i get my to the level i want ill go back perhaps!!!!!! big maybe.....
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Old Jul 4, 2004 | 08:37 PM
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good info
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Old Jul 4, 2004 | 08:40 PM
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Very interesting.
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Old Jul 4, 2004 | 08:51 PM
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5 lug is overrated
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Old Jul 4, 2004 | 09:04 PM
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4 lug is overrated

i just did an hpde with only 3 lug nuts on my front wheel (snapped a wheel stud changing tires), and it held up fine all day. probably not the smartest thing, but 3 lugs properly torqued can hold a wheel on just fine. after every session i checked them, and they didn't budge once.

5 lug ... pssh
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Old Jul 4, 2004 | 10:27 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jwn7 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">4 lug is overrated

i just did an hpde with only 3 lug nuts on my front wheel (snapped a wheel stud changing tires), and it held up fine all day. probably not the smartest thing, but 3 lugs properly torqued can hold a wheel on just fine. after every session i checked them, and they didn't budge once.

5 lug ... pssh </TD></TR></TABLE>

i should have jsut removed a lug from each corner onthe 5 lug then i would have lost tons of weight...LOL
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Old Jul 5, 2004 | 12:18 AM
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hahaha..only santos

way too much time on your hands
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Old Jul 5, 2004 | 01:29 AM
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Dude this is some great info. I remember some dood telling me that the ITR setup weighs more. I was thinking bullshit. You proved me wrong.
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Old Jul 5, 2004 | 04:53 AM
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This is actually interesting - Me and a friend of mine were talking about this same subject the other day.

From a braking standpoint, would you say either one of the setups has a greater advantage over the other? I understand that the 4x114 is a little less beefier than the 5 lug, but is the weight reduction worth the difference in braking power (if there is one)?
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Old Jul 5, 2004 | 05:43 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hasback_00 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">hahaha..only santos

way too much time on your hands</TD></TR></TABLE>

not really but yea...since im waiting for my clutch and flywheel to come in!


<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Cody &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">This is actually interesting - Me and a friend of mine were talking about this same subject the other day.

From a braking standpoint, would you say either one of the setups has a greater advantage over the other? I understand that the 4x114 is a little less beefier than the 5 lug, but is the weight reduction worth the difference in braking power (if there is one)?</TD></TR></TABLE>

its funny that you mention that...when i had my 4x114 on b 4 the 5 x114 i always felt the 4x114 braked better for some reason, as odd as it may seem. weigh tis weight, and that is less weight to turn so i believe that yes it is worth it.
also when i put the 5 lug on car felt slightly sluggish, i dont knwo if it was because i didnt drive it for a while or the 5 lug weighted it down.
either way!!!!
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Old Jul 5, 2004 | 05:47 AM
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Benz's Smart car only has 3 lugs.

I think 4 lugs are just fine. It is a good info.
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Old Jul 5, 2004 | 07:20 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jwn7 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">4 lug is overrated

i just did an hpde with only 3 lug nuts on my front wheel (snapped a wheel stud changing tires), and it held up fine all day. probably not the smartest thing, but 3 lugs properly torqued can hold a wheel on just fine. after every session i checked them, and they didn't budge once.

5 lug ... pssh </TD></TR></TABLE>

Honda says you can drive it with only 2 lugs, and still be ok. Given proper torque specs.
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Old Jul 5, 2004 | 09:32 AM
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great info..
i was wondering.. did the weight differes because of smaller rotors/calipers?
i am thinking of doing the same thing, but i was planning on using 11" rotors up front to keep my current caliper.
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Old Jul 5, 2004 | 11:23 AM
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But it's 5 lug and its cool.
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Old Jul 5, 2004 | 11:54 AM
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Very cool! I was curious about this.
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Old Jul 5, 2004 | 12:10 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jwn7 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">4 lug is overrated

i just did an hpde with only 3 lug nuts on my front wheel (snapped a wheel stud changing tires), and it held up fine all day. probably not the smartest thing, but 3 lugs properly torqued can hold a wheel on just fine. after every session i checked them, and they didn't budge once.

5 lug ... pssh </TD></TR></TABLE>


How did you ever pass tech inspection?

5-lug is worth the weight to me. ~50lbs at the lowest point on the car? I'll take it. Just lose your sunroof to compensate.
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Old Jul 5, 2004 | 12:25 PM
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I'd like to see them weighed on an acurate digital scale.

If you drag race, why the hell did you buy a 5-lug?
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Old Jul 5, 2004 | 12:47 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Aquafina &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I'd like to see them weighed on an acurate digital scale.

If you drag race, why the hell did you buy a 5-lug?</TD></TR></TABLE>

my car is all purpose, street driven..the 5 lug had its benefits by all means, it was a deal and i took it...i want to get my times in the 1/4 down and i have the power but my weight is slowing me down.....
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Old Jul 5, 2004 | 01:00 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Black R &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">How did you ever pass tech inspection? </TD></TR></TABLE>

there wasn't any

and i'm putting a replacement hub on right now
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Old Jul 5, 2004 | 01:05 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jwn7 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">4 lug is overrated

i just did an hpde with only 3 lug nuts on my front wheel (snapped a wheel stud changing tires), and it held up fine all day. probably not the smartest thing, but 3 lugs properly torqued can hold a wheel on just fine. after every session i checked them, and they didn't budge once.

5 lug ... pssh </TD></TR></TABLE>

BAH! Enzo's only have 1 lug.
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