b16 2nd o2 sensor

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jun 19, 2004 | 01:56 PM
  #1  
limpy's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 882
Likes: 0
From: fort lewis, washington, USA
Default b16 2nd o2 sensor

i want to hook up the 2nd o2 sensor in my crx with a b16 but don't know where the hell to run the wire. so where does it go?
Reply
Old Jun 19, 2004 | 02:06 PM
  #2  
garlic jr's Avatar
 
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 149
Likes: 0
From: Rowlett, tx, usa
Default Re: b16 2nd o2 sensor (limpy)

on hhu.com their was a link to this question... integra forum...

i think it was that if u had an obd1 system with obd2 motor u could run the 2nd o2 onto a piggy back tricking the ecu into thinking u have a working 2nd o2 sensor...

why the hell did u buy a obd2 motor? in a crx no less.. dont wanna know what that was like getting it to work
Reply
Old Jun 19, 2004 | 02:12 PM
  #3  
Rywire's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Nov 2002
Posts: 5,846
Likes: 1
From: San Jose/ Monterey, ca, usa
Default Re: b16 2nd o2 sensor (limpy)

Its c8 if you are running obd0.
PS, if it bogs, and hesitates then switch them around. Ryan

He never said it was obd2
Reply
Old Jun 19, 2004 | 02:36 PM
  #4  
limpy's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 882
Likes: 0
From: fort lewis, washington, USA
Default Re: b16 2nd o2 sensor (droppedcrxsi)

c8 allready has a wire in it. do i tap into that wire or can i plug it into a pin some where else. it is obd0 by the way.
Reply
Old Jun 19, 2004 | 03:26 PM
  #5  
Rywire's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Nov 2002
Posts: 5,846
Likes: 1
From: San Jose/ Monterey, ca, usa
Default Re: b16 2nd o2 sensor (limpy)

This only works if you have the the wires comming out at you with the clip side up.
Reply
Old Jun 19, 2004 | 04:33 PM
  #6  
limpy's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 882
Likes: 0
From: fort lewis, washington, USA
Default Re: b16 2nd o2 sensor (droppedcrxsi)

so it is the only one on the smallest clip that has no wire in it? what do i how do i put it in the clip?
Reply
Old Jun 21, 2004 | 10:26 PM
  #7  
Tman's Avatar
 
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 46
Likes: 0
From: Charlotte, NC, USA
Default Re: b16 2nd o2 sensor (limpy)

I need to know this also...
Reply
Old Jun 21, 2004 | 10:40 PM
  #8  
Rywire's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Nov 2002
Posts: 5,846
Likes: 1
From: San Jose/ Monterey, ca, usa
Default Re: b16 2nd o2 sensor (Tman)

I allready told you.
Reply
Old Jun 22, 2004 | 07:05 AM
  #9  
crx_88_si's Avatar
 
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 3,411
Likes: 2
From: Somewhere, Ontario, Canada
Default

this also might help in o2 placement..

Reply
Old Jun 22, 2004 | 08:12 AM
  #10  
88DXCRX's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Nov 2002
Posts: 2,753
Likes: 5
From: I told you to wait in the truck in Texas, United States
Default Re: b16 2nd o2 sensor (limpy)



You need to add a wire at C8 and wire the o2 sensors as shown:
Reply
Old Jun 22, 2004 | 08:37 AM
  #11  
crx_88_si's Avatar
 
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 3,411
Likes: 2
From: Somewhere, Ontario, Canada
Default

SAVED, great informational pics !
Reply
Old Jun 22, 2004 | 08:44 AM
  #12  
EL Vap133's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 26,519
Likes: 3
From: Los Angeles, CA, USA
Default Re: b16 2nd o2 sensor (88DXCRX)

Phil to the rescue!
Reply
Old Jun 22, 2004 | 09:17 AM
  #13  
Rywire's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Nov 2002
Posts: 5,846
Likes: 1
From: San Jose/ Monterey, ca, usa
Default Re: b16 2nd o2 sensor (EL Vap133)

YA, there ya go!! Thats what I was looking for.
Reply
Old Jun 22, 2004 | 10:03 AM
  #14  
nautica_t's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 2,238
Likes: 0
Default Re: b16 2nd o2 sensor (droppedcrxsi)

how do you tell which one is the primary o2 and which is the secondary o2, according to that picture, i have it switched around, would it make a difference if they were switched? TIA.
don't mean to hi-jack the thread.
Reply
Old Jun 22, 2004 | 11:12 AM
  #15  
limpy's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 882
Likes: 0
From: fort lewis, washington, USA
Default Re: b16 2nd o2 sensor (nautica_t)

great pics that really helped. now how do i put the wire into the clip that goes into the ecu. isn't there a pin that goes over the wire that goes into the ecu? how do i get it in the pin?
Reply
Old Jun 22, 2004 | 11:25 AM
  #16  
Rywire's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Nov 2002
Posts: 5,846
Likes: 1
From: San Jose/ Monterey, ca, usa
Default Re: b16 2nd o2 sensor (nautica_t)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nautica_t &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">how do you tell which one is the primary o2 and which is the secondary o2, according to that picture, i have it switched around, would it make a difference if they were switched? TIA.
don't mean to hi-jack the thread.</TD></TR></TABLE>

If yours is running good, and there is no hesitation, its correct. If there is hesitation, switch them.
Reply
Old Jun 22, 2004 | 11:29 AM
  #17  
88DXCRX's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Nov 2002
Posts: 2,753
Likes: 5
From: I told you to wait in the truck in Texas, United States
Default Re: b16 2nd o2 sensor (nautica_t)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nautica_t &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">how do you tell which one is the primary o2 and which is the secondary o2, according to that picture, i have it switched around, would it make a difference if they were switched? TIA.
don't mean to hi-jack the thread.</TD></TR></TABLE>
If you have it switched,it will run like crap..and will be too rich..

Go here: https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=404493&page=1
and https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=404493&page=2
and read what a guy called "Camshaft" had to say..(2 pages)
P.S.&gt;If you do have them switched around,be sure to reset your ECU while
you are at it..

To wire it up you need an extra pin from a donor harness or an unused
wire if you have one.
For info on removing the pins,go here: http://www.deepstaged.net/rpecu4gb.htm
Reply
Old Jun 22, 2004 | 03:13 PM
  #18  
nautica_t's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 2,238
Likes: 0
Default Re: b16 2nd o2 sensor (88DXCRX)

88DXCRX.
okay can i just take out the o2 sensor and switch spots. or are the actual o2 sensors built differently. cuz than i'll just switch the positions rather than re-splicing the wires. cuz right now, i guess you could say the primary o2 sensor wire is spliced into the secondary o2 sensor on the ecu pinout. and primary pinout wire is connected to secondary o2 sensor.
i don't got much bog.
only bog i get is when i'm in 5th gear goign about 110-115 KM/H at about 4 grand, it bogs there, if i put on the throattle it kinda chokes, so would changing my o2 sensor wiring correct this?
-&gt; and by the way, i'm suppose to connect the A/F ratio to the primary o2 sensor correct, it doesn't bounce liek all the other A/F ratio i seen. Thanks 88dxcrx, you've been a great help so far. very much appriciated.
Reply
Old Jun 23, 2004 | 07:19 AM
  #19  
88DXCRX's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Nov 2002
Posts: 2,753
Likes: 5
From: I told you to wait in the truck in Texas, United States
Default Re: b16 2nd o2 sensor (nautica_t)

Yes,you can swap positions of the O2 sensors in the exhaust manifold..
That is what I would have done if I had known at that time..
Since my engine was already installed,
I figured it would be hell to get the sensors so
I just switched the two wires at the ECU.

For my car,having the o2 sensors wired correctly
made a big difference in the performance and drivability.
Good Luck,Phil
Reply
Old Jun 23, 2004 | 08:06 AM
  #20  
nautica_t's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 2,238
Likes: 0
Default Re: b16 2nd o2 sensor (88DXCRX)

hey 88dxcrx, it feels a bit better now that i have changed the wires over, but we'll see how much response it has on the highway
thanks again bro. but i have another problem now lol
but i'll make a new thread.
Reply
Old Jun 24, 2004 | 01:37 PM
  #21  
limpy's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 882
Likes: 0
From: fort lewis, washington, USA
Default Re: b16 2nd o2 sensor (limpy)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by limpy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">now how do i put the wire into the clip that goes into the ecu. isn't there a pin that goes over the wire that goes into the ecu? how do i get it in the pin?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Reply
Old Jun 24, 2004 | 01:47 PM
  #22  
88DXCRX's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Nov 2002
Posts: 2,753
Likes: 5
From: I told you to wait in the truck in Texas, United States
Default Re: b16 2nd o2 sensor (limpy)

answered above:
To wire it up you need an extra pin from a donor harness or an unused
wire if you have one.
For info on removing the pins,go here: http://www.deepstaged.net/rpecu4gb.htm
Reply
Old Jun 24, 2004 | 04:07 PM
  #23  
RCautoworks's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Nov 2002
Posts: 17,227
Likes: 2
From: Illinois
Default Re: b16 2nd o2 sensor (88DXCRX)

Little tip, the pic posted above showing the clips and numbers is a great pic but the pic is backward compared to how other sites list them, so just use 1 chart and you will be good.
Reply
Old Jun 25, 2004 | 01:20 PM
  #24  
limpy's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 882
Likes: 0
From: fort lewis, washington, USA
Default Re: b16 2nd o2 sensor (90blackcrx)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 88DXCRX &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">answered above:
To wire it up you need an extra pin from a donor harness or an unused
wire if you have one.
For info on removing the pins,go here: http://www.deepstaged.net/rpecu4gb.htm
</TD></TR></TABLE>
thank you that was what i needed to know. everyone should save this page for some damn good info!!
Reply
Old Jun 28, 2004 | 06:28 AM
  #25  
luciffer's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 164
Likes: 0
From: Moncton, NB, Canada
Default Re: b16 2nd o2 sensor (limpy)

I all ready have both my o2 sensors in, wired up and working correctly with the original white and green connectors.

But i want to replace the o2 sensors, so my question is are the two sensors the same and what is the replacement part no.

thanks


***Edit *** called my local honda dealer and for the o2 sensor from a 92-95 si they want $250 CND per sensor. I am i crazy or is this nucking futs? Has anybody replaced these o2 sensors with non OEM sensors? If so what brand and how did it turn out.

Modified by luciffer at 5:08 PM 6/28/2004


Modified by luciffer at 5:24 PM 6/28/2004
Reply



All times are GMT -8. The time now is 10:18 PM.