I just bought myself a used 93 Civic DX hatchback. My plans and goal is to try to build a 13second daily driven street car. I'm planning to go with the LSVTEC setup.

99 GSR vtec head
95 B18B stock block
bLOCK GUARD
AEM fuel, cam gears
310 cc injectors
ARP head and stud bolts

As for pistons im still undecided on what i should use.
b16a , ITR, or JE pistons
The highest on compression im planning is 11.0 or 11.5

As for camshafts I wanted to used just ITR since my goal is just 13second. But
Most of my friends tell me to get Crower , Crane Cam stage 2 , Comp Cams, Skunk2 stage 2....So are you guys opinion? I just want something that will work fine and help me reach my goal.

My last question is what header should I use?
I've done some research and this is what i found.
--feb 2004 HCI magazine their B16A motor used a 4-1 Airmass Header and it made 200hp. What do you guys think about Airmass Extreme header by Holley.

--Vibrant Performance J Spec 4-1 header

--Edelbrock Sport Compact 4-1 Pro FLo 1 Piece Headers

--Landspeed /Powercore 4-1 header (used on Honda Tuning Mag 10k INtegra Project - 13second)

-- DC Sport 4-1

Well which one would you choose from the options above and why?

So pretty much my build up is on a $5000 budget. No more than that. I did thought about going with a GSR motor instead at first but then since Im getting a free LS block I decided to go Lsvtec instead. So if there's any good ideas/opinion out there feel free to post up.

 

If you are on a $5k budget, go with CTR/ITR cams, they will give you the most useable power for your setup since you wont be spinning your motor to infinity with a stock bottom end. i know you mentioned ARP rod bolts and those are good cheap insurance, but with stock LS rods, i wouldnt rev past 8k. Youre gonna get a ton of stunna's who are gonna come out of the woodwork now and say " i rev my ls/v to 9500 all day every day on stock bottom end, y0! " but they are lying. Ive mis-shifted once and spun to 8900 and it almost gave me a heart attack. I would also use ITR pistons, skunk2 cam gears and the best bang for the buck is probably the dc sport 4-1 header. Your setup sounds very close to mine and im not dissapointed at all.

 

i have oversized ctr pistons that are unused. perfect for your set up

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by LsVtec92Hatch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If you are on a $5k budget, go with CTR/ITR cams, they will give you the most useable power for your setup since you wont be spinning your motor to infinity with a stock bottom end. i know you mentioned ARP rod bolts and those are good cheap insurance, but with stock LS rods, i wouldnt rev past 8k. Youre gonna get a ton of stunna's who are gonna come out of the woodwork now and say " i rev my ls/v to 9500 all day every day on stock bottom end, y0! " but they are lying. Ive mis-shifted once and spun to 8900 and it almost gave me a heart attack. I would also use ITR pistons, skunk2 cam gears and the best bang for the buck is probably the dc sport 4-1 header. Your setup sounds very close to mine and im not dissapointed at all.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I reved to 8.5K daily and did not have any problems when i first got my ls vtec, well no problems except for some spun bearings. definitly worth the arp rodbolt and less aggressive cams so you are not tempted to rev the **** out of your engine.

 

If you want your compression to be at 11.0 then use itr piston b16 pistons will put your c/r at 11.5 I think that OEM parts will work great with your set up. Get the ctr intake cam and itr exhaust cam don't use sorry *** aem cam gears they suck get skunks way better and cheap.just to let you know the aem fuel rail wont help your set up waste of money if you ask me. get dc headers, ok not the best headers in the game but i want to know what kind of tranny are you going to use. good look with your setup

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by notsure &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I reved to 8.5K daily and did not have any problems when i first got my ls vtec, well no problems except for some spun bearings. definitly worth the arp rodbolt and less aggressive cams so you are not tempted to rev the **** out of your engine.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Thanks for being honest and not stunna-riffic.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by notsure &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

I reved to 8.5K daily and did not have any problems when i first got my ls vtec, well no problems except for some spun bearings. definitly worth the arp rodbolt and less aggressive cams so you are not tempted to rev the **** out of your engine.</TD></TR></TABLE>

That is some good info I am going to use CTR's(pistons and cams) and ARP rods,main's and head studs. I will go no higher than 8200

 

great set up

 

get some good tuning right away, with ctr slugs in an ls/vtec your CR will be about 12.4-12.6, pretty hard to run on pump gas with no tuning, for an oem build i'd go with b16 slugs, also they dont require any modification to the stock ls rods like the "r" pistons do. Anyway, the jdm dc header is a great bang for your buck, im using it now, love it. I'd also recommend getting the bottom end balanced, along with the rod bolts this is good insurance. Your setup is similar to mine, good luck on your build man!!!

 

i apologize i misread the post i thought you wrote ctr's not itr's, anyway you''ll still have to modify the rod a mm on each side and use gsr/itr bearings to fit. sorry again for the misunderstanding of your post. good luck

 

Thanks everyone for responding back and giving me some good info and views on how i should go with into my build up. I appreciate everyone replies. Well wish me luck and hopefully I'll come close to my goal before the race season is over. Thanks again guys.

 

isn't the bearings the same for a ls and gsr

 

Sorry to jack this thread but I just have a quick question. I have a LS block and a set of eagle rods for a LS block. Some people say I can't use stock ITR/GSR/CTR pistons because I would need rods made for a VTEC motor. Is this true.

 

not at all, you just have to have the rod resized. by the way i have some unused ctr pistons if you want em

 

What do you mean by having the rods resized? Being balanced you mean or getting it shorter? I wish i wasn't broke so I could buy your pistons.

 

he means you need to have the rod machined, shave off 1mm off each side by the wristpin area.

 

Thanks. I'm learning something new everyday

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 97L-esVeeTeg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">he means you need to have the rod machined, shave off 1mm off each side by the wristpin area.</TD></TR></TABLE>

yeah sorry i wasnt clear on that

 

I would liek to know if there are any complications with the lsvtec set-up. I am thinking of going lsvtec. I need to know all of the complications that could happen casue I am going to be driving this everyday for about 30-40 miles. Someone please tell meeeeee !!!!!!

 

sheezus christ, search for gods sake... this has been covered a million times...

 

I would not go with Crower or Crane Cams. I would like to see more people starting to use Buddy Club Cams. These cams can be found for a little more, if not cheaper, than a set of ITR or CTR cams. They also make huge gains in the midrange which is way more important for the majority of people, as well as making bigger numbers up top.