Something different.. Full NSX Brake Conversion (ROTORS TOO)
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Something different.. Full NSX Brake Conversion (ROTORS TOO)
just got my NSX calipers and rotors from Ponyboy 
and i'm starting to work around the offset issue with the NSX rotors.
my idea:
NSX Calipers
NSX ROTORS (don't ask why not going with the Legend GS ones, i have these and i'm willing to try them out)
NSX/ITR Ferodo Racing DS2500 pads
as seen on this post https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=720430&page=2 NSX Rotors on an ITR are not a myth, they will work with the appropriate hardware, as Miraiz stated.
now the first thing that pops out is the 14mm difference between the NSX bracket and the hub bracket. i need to fabricate a stainless steel 14mm washer for each bolt.
second, each of the bracket bolts need to be longer (at least 38mm)
ideas/comments
pics soon
and i'm starting to work around the offset issue with the NSX rotors.my idea:
NSX Calipers
NSX ROTORS (don't ask why not going with the Legend GS ones, i have these and i'm willing to try them out)
NSX/ITR Ferodo Racing DS2500 pads
as seen on this post https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=720430&page=2 NSX Rotors on an ITR are not a myth, they will work with the appropriate hardware, as Miraiz stated.
now the first thing that pops out is the 14mm difference between the NSX bracket and the hub bracket. i need to fabricate a stainless steel 14mm washer for each bolt.
second, each of the bracket bolts need to be longer (at least 38mm)
ideas/comments
pics soon
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Re: Something different.. Full NSX Brake Conversion (El Pollo Diablo)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by El Pollo Diablo »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Wont the rotors push the wheels out 14mm? And if so, j00're gonna need longer studs...no?
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not really, the rotors/calipers will be pushed further to the wheel.
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not really, the rotors/calipers will be pushed further to the wheel.
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Re: Something different.. Full NSX Brake Conversion (Darkteg)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Darkteg »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
not really, the rotors/calipers will be pushed further to the wheel.
</TD></TR></TABLE>as in closer to the suspension components..?
not really, the rotors/calipers will be pushed further to the wheel.
</TD></TR></TABLE>as in closer to the suspension components..?
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Re: Something different.. Full NSX Brake Conversion (Darkteg)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Darkteg »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
not really, the rotors/calipers will be pushed further to the wheel.
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Here you go: https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=553128
not really, the rotors/calipers will be pushed further to the wheel.
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Here you go: https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=553128
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Re: Something different.. Full NSX Brake Conversion (mstewar)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mstewar »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">as in closer to the suspension components..?</TD></TR></TABLE>
nope, further away from susp.
[quote=El Pollo Diablo]Here you go: https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=553128[/QUOTE]
hmmm.. so?
rotors and calipers with be pushed further from suspension into the wheel, so it might not work with OEM wheel offset, that's what i meant.
nope, further away from susp.
[quote=El Pollo Diablo]Here you go: https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=553128[/QUOTE]
hmmm.. so?
rotors and calipers with be pushed further from suspension into the wheel, so it might not work with OEM wheel offset, that's what i meant.
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Re: Something different.. Full NSX Brake Conversion (Darkteg)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Darkteg »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
nope, further away from susp.
[quote=El Pollo Diablo]Here you go: https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=553128[/QUOTE]
hmmm.. so?
rotors and calipers with be pushed further from suspension into the wheel, so it might not work with OEM wheel offset, that's what i meant.
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It seems in order for a wheel to clear the caliper it will stick out way pass the fender...
also j00'll need longer studs...
I dunno if I'm ahead of you on thinking this through or vice versa....feel free to set me straight.
nope, further away from susp.
[quote=El Pollo Diablo]Here you go: https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=553128[/QUOTE]
hmmm.. so?
rotors and calipers with be pushed further from suspension into the wheel, so it might not work with OEM wheel offset, that's what i meant.
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It seems in order for a wheel to clear the caliper it will stick out way pass the fender...
also j00'll need longer studs...
I dunno if I'm ahead of you on thinking this through or vice versa....feel free to set me straight.
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Re: Something different.. Full NSX Brake Conversion (El Pollo Diablo)
no longer studs needed, the only difference between the legend rotors and the nsx rotors is that these last ones will stick out further into the wheel 14mm, that's the gap between the caliper bracket and the hub.
check out the link to the topic where Miraiz shows a pic of a mugen wheel with nsx rotors inside. the calipers <edit> are almost touching the wheel.
check out the link to the topic where Miraiz shows a pic of a mugen wheel with nsx rotors inside. the calipers <edit> are almost touching the wheel.
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Re: Something different.. Full NSX Brake Conversion (Darkteg)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Darkteg »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">no longer studs needed, the only difference between the legend rotors and the nsx rotors is that these last ones will stick out further into the wheel 14mm, that's the gap between the caliper bracket and the hub.
check out the link to the topic where Miraiz shows a pic of a mugen wheel with nsx rotors inside. the calipers <edit> are almost touching the wheel.
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Gatcha....but that's assuming he wrote the right description for the pix, no? Also, is it really worth while if j00 need new wheels and spacers, etc for this to work, wouldn't getting the legend rotors be a more cost effective option?
check out the link to the topic where Miraiz shows a pic of a mugen wheel with nsx rotors inside. the calipers <edit> are almost touching the wheel.
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Gatcha....but that's assuming he wrote the right description for the pix, no? Also, is it really worth while if j00 need new wheels and spacers, etc for this to work, wouldn't getting the legend rotors be a more cost effective option?
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I understand the want for nsx brakes but wouldnt you get the desired effect with upgraded pads and rotors? I know you have the nsx stuff,but it seems like alot of work
to get the nsx stuff to fit and then with the offset and all isint this going to defeat the purpose? I mean it would be "pimp" to have nsx brakes but if all the work just gets you the same effect as aftermarket pads and rotors. see what I mean. this doesnt help your cause just an observation.
to get the nsx stuff to fit and then with the offset and all isint this going to defeat the purpose? I mean it would be "pimp" to have nsx brakes but if all the work just gets you the same effect as aftermarket pads and rotors. see what I mean. this doesnt help your cause just an observation.
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Re: (PY 01-0972)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PY 01-0972 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I understand the want for nsx brakes but wouldnt you get the desired effect with upgraded pads and rotors? I know you have the nsx stuff,but it seems like alot of work
to get the nsx stuff to fit and then with the offset and all isint this going to defeat the purpose? I mean it would be "pimp" to have nsx brakes but if all the work just gets you the same effect as aftermarket pads and rotors. see what I mean. this doesnt help your cause just an observation.</TD></TR></TABLE>
No.
to get the nsx stuff to fit and then with the offset and all isint this going to defeat the purpose? I mean it would be "pimp" to have nsx brakes but if all the work just gets you the same effect as aftermarket pads and rotors. see what I mean. this doesnt help your cause just an observation.</TD></TR></TABLE>
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Re: Something different.. Full NSX Brake Conversion (Darkteg)
Honestly - I think you are making things really hard for yourself.
The pic of the Mugen wheel (15") and the NSX caliper/Legend rotor is from my car....
I don't think you are going to notice any difference between the Legend rotor and the NSX rotor - they're both round pieces of iron that provide a surface for the pad to rub against.
Legend rotors are hella cheap anyways. The reason you use them is for the increased thickness.
The calipers bolt on with the R caliper bolts and a couple of 2mm washers.
Note that this is a 15" WHEEL - with a +45 mm offset.
The pic of the Mugen wheel (15") and the NSX caliper/Legend rotor is from my car....
I don't think you are going to notice any difference between the Legend rotor and the NSX rotor - they're both round pieces of iron that provide a surface for the pad to rub against.
Legend rotors are hella cheap anyways. The reason you use them is for the increased thickness.
The calipers bolt on with the R caliper bolts and a couple of 2mm washers.
Note that this is a 15" WHEEL - with a +45 mm offset.
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Re: Something different.. Full NSX Brake Conversion (Big Phat R)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Big Phat R »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Honestly - I think you are making things really hard for yourself.
The pic of the Mugen wheel (15") and the NSX caliper/Legend rotor is from my car....
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AH HA! Something wasn't adding up....
The pic of the Mugen wheel (15") and the NSX caliper/Legend rotor is from my car....
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AH HA! Something wasn't adding up....
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Re: Something different.. Full NSX Brake Conversion (Big Phat R)
Mmm.... thick *** heat sink....
RJ - needs duckz on his front brakes
This rotor was 5 track days old (even though 2 of them were at CMP)
RJ - needs duckz on his front brakes
This rotor was 5 track days old (even though 2 of them were at CMP)
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Re: Something different.. Full NSX Brake Conversion (Big Phat R)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Big Phat R »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Honestly - I think you are making things really hard for yourself.
The pic of the Mugen wheel (15") and the NSX caliper/Legend rotor is from my car....
I don't think you are going to notice any difference between the Legend rotor and the NSX rotor - they're both round pieces of iron that provide a surface for the pad to rub against.
Legend rotors are hella cheap anyways. The reason you use them is for the increased thickness.
The calipers bolt on with the R caliper bolts and a couple of 2mm washers.
Note that this is a 15" WHEEL - with a +45 mm offset.</TD></TR></TABLE>
thanx for the pics Big Phat R, according to Miraiz (https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=720430&page=2) those were NSX rotors
) anyway the reason i'm going for NSX rotors is because a) i already have them, b) my 15x7 team dynamics are 40 ET, so i won't have clearence problems, but if so i won't have any problems puting a 5mm spacer on and c) getting Legend rotors here in europe is hell expensive, not the usual 50/100usd you get over there.
later i'll have all the time in the world to get legend rotors if i quite this project, right now i'm motivated to try these on
The pic of the Mugen wheel (15") and the NSX caliper/Legend rotor is from my car....
I don't think you are going to notice any difference between the Legend rotor and the NSX rotor - they're both round pieces of iron that provide a surface for the pad to rub against.
Legend rotors are hella cheap anyways. The reason you use them is for the increased thickness.
The calipers bolt on with the R caliper bolts and a couple of 2mm washers.
Note that this is a 15" WHEEL - with a +45 mm offset.</TD></TR></TABLE>
thanx for the pics Big Phat R, according to Miraiz (https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=720430&page=2) those were NSX rotors
) anyway the reason i'm going for NSX rotors is because a) i already have them, b) my 15x7 team dynamics are 40 ET, so i won't have clearence problems, but if so i won't have any problems puting a 5mm spacer on and c) getting Legend rotors here in europe is hell expensive, not the usual 50/100usd you get over there.later i'll have all the time in the world to get legend rotors if i quite this project, right now i'm motivated to try these on
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Re: Something different.. Full NSX Brake Conversion (Darkteg)
Those legend rotors are the same thickness as the NXS units... but the NSX rotor offset is quite funny.
I have a set of NSX rotors sitting in my garage for that reason.
I have a set of NSX rotors sitting in my garage for that reason.
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Re: Something different.. Full NSX Brake Conversion (Willard)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Willard »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Those legend rotors are the same thickness as the NXS units... but the NSX rotor offset is quite funny.</TD></TR></TABLE>
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Re: Something different.. Full NSX Brake Conversion (Darkteg)
Yep, the Honda Legend is very rare in Europe. Legend parts are difficult to get here. Isn't there an Accord rotor that is the same? Someone told me that.
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Re: Something different.. Full NSX Brake Conversion (DutchITR1689)
I'm personally attempting to do an NA2 conversion with HUGE Euro R rotors. Several of my Japanese sites say that it works.
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Re: Something different.. Full NSX Brake Conversion (DutchITR1689)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DutchITR1689 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yep, the Honda Legend is very rare in Europe. Legend parts are difficult to get here. Isn't there an Accord rotor that is the same? Someone told me that.</TD></TR></TABLE>
are you refering to the accord type-R?
Miraiz,
wont those euro-R rotors require 16" wheels at least?
are you refering to the accord type-R?
Miraiz,
wont those euro-R rotors require 16" wheels at least?
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Re: Something different.. Full NSX Brake Conversion (Darkteg)
yup...that's what I've got
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Darkteg »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
are you refering to the accord type-R?
Miraiz,
wont those euro-R rotors require 16" wheels at least?
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Darkteg »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
are you refering to the accord type-R?
Miraiz,
wont those euro-R rotors require 16" wheels at least?
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bling bling baby
Modified by MiraiZ at 10:03 PM 5/26/2004