Why are G2 GS-R's so rare? Any ideas?
05-21-2004, 05:54 PM
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Why are G2 GS-R's so rare? Any ideas?
Like the topic says, Why are G2 GS-R's so rare?
Everyone knows they are.
Everyone SAYS they are.
We rarely see them on the street, or for sale.
But what are the reasons?
I bought mine last year because, I thought I got a great deal on some G2 teg.
I had NO IDEA, at the time just how good a deal it was or how incredibly rare it is.
(Dumb luck, really.)
Or how hard some people look for a DB2
But why are there SO FEW? What could be the reasons?
Any ideas?
Everyone knows they are.
Everyone SAYS they are.
We rarely see them on the street, or for sale.
But what are the reasons?
I bought mine last year because, I thought I got a great deal on some G2 teg.
I had NO IDEA, at the time just how good a deal it was or how incredibly rare it is.
(Dumb luck, really.)
Or how hard some people look for a DB2
But why are there SO FEW? What could be the reasons?
Any ideas?
05-21-2004, 07:10 PM
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Re: Why are G2 GS-R's so rare? Any ideas? (aznxenon)
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there is a thought provolking post......
like others said there wasnt many biult but to me i havent seen them go for too much money ... i would think that people would want the G3 sence it is a b18 over the b17?.. the last G2 i saw for sale went for 4000 to me that sounds cheap
there is a thought provolking post......
like others said there wasnt many biult but to me i havent seen them go for too much money ... i would think that people would want the G3 sence it is a b18 over the b17?.. the last G2 i saw for sale went for 4000 to me that sounds cheap
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Re: Why are G2 GS-R's so rare? Any ideas? (4crx4me)
1. First Honda vtec equipped 4 cylinder vehicle sold in the states (the prelude would get it's h22 vtec in 1993)
2. A usdm market only b17 (1.7) motor that was only produced for 92-93 model years.
3. Sold in fewer numbers than the ITR for the two years it was produced. I believe they sold fewer than three thousand DA gsr tegs over the two years it was produced.
4. Exclusive Aztec Green color
5. VTEC in the fender molding instead of DOHC
6. classy gold GS-R emblem on the rear
Not a collector car, but definitely a cool car for a honda enthusiast to own. Almost had one myself for NC two years ago, but the deal fell through.
2. A usdm market only b17 (1.7) motor that was only produced for 92-93 model years.
3. Sold in fewer numbers than the ITR for the two years it was produced. I believe they sold fewer than three thousand DA gsr tegs over the two years it was produced.
4. Exclusive Aztec Green color
5. VTEC in the fender molding instead of DOHC
6. classy gold GS-R emblem on the rear
Not a collector car, but definitely a cool car for a honda enthusiast to own. Almost had one myself for NC two years ago, but the deal fell through.
05-21-2004, 08:15 PM
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Re: Why are G2 GS-R's so rare? Any ideas? (DCcliffjumper2)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DCcliffjumper2 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">1. First Honda vtec equipped 4 cylinder vehicle sold in the states (the prelude would get it's h22 vtec in 1993)
2. A usdm market only b17 (1.7) motor that was only produced for 92-93 model years.
3. Sold in fewer numbers than the ITR for the two years it was produced. I believe they sold fewer than three thousand DA gsr tegs over the two years it was produced.
4. Exclusive Aztec Green color
5. VTEC in the fender molding instead of DOHC
6. classy gold GS-R emblem on the rear
Not a collector car, but definitely a cool car for a honda enthusiast to own. Almost had one myself for NC two years ago, but the deal fell through.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Who's to say this won't be a collector's item! Right now they only have a little more than a decade of age on them, down the road, they will be the rarest DOHC VTEC ever made! As well as the FIRST to make it state-side with the B16 Del Sol right behind it...The green was one of four colors, white (which I have), black, and red were the other three colors it came in...The emblem on the back was GS in silver with a red R written like aftermarket type R emblems...I have never seen a gold one so I'm under the assumption it was probably a gold trim option you came across...The VTEC instead of DOHC is by far one of the cooler sleeper tweaks it came with as you really have to pay attention to catch it...BUT the by far MOST important feature of this engine is the fact it came with with the very rare B17A of which only a few thousand were made, unlike the MASS-PRODUCED B16's and B18C's (Even the type R is just a tweaked B18C)...Plus it came with a tight geared cable tranny which is almost identical to a type R's...
So any of you reading, if you can get your hands on one of these hold on to it because like anything that's rare, it's going to be considered worth something as it's the rarest version of Honda's legendery VTEC EVER MADE!
2. A usdm market only b17 (1.7) motor that was only produced for 92-93 model years.
3. Sold in fewer numbers than the ITR for the two years it was produced. I believe they sold fewer than three thousand DA gsr tegs over the two years it was produced.
4. Exclusive Aztec Green color
5. VTEC in the fender molding instead of DOHC
6. classy gold GS-R emblem on the rear
Not a collector car, but definitely a cool car for a honda enthusiast to own. Almost had one myself for NC two years ago, but the deal fell through.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Who's to say this won't be a collector's item! Right now they only have a little more than a decade of age on them, down the road, they will be the rarest DOHC VTEC ever made! As well as the FIRST to make it state-side with the B16 Del Sol right behind it...The green was one of four colors, white (which I have), black, and red were the other three colors it came in...The emblem on the back was GS in silver with a red R written like aftermarket type R emblems...I have never seen a gold one so I'm under the assumption it was probably a gold trim option you came across...The VTEC instead of DOHC is by far one of the cooler sleeper tweaks it came with as you really have to pay attention to catch it...BUT the by far MOST important feature of this engine is the fact it came with with the very rare B17A of which only a few thousand were made, unlike the MASS-PRODUCED B16's and B18C's (Even the type R is just a tweaked B18C)...Plus it came with a tight geared cable tranny which is almost identical to a type R's...
So any of you reading, if you can get your hands on one of these hold on to it because like anything that's rare, it's going to be considered worth something as it's the rarest version of Honda's legendery VTEC EVER MADE!
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05-21-2004, 10:15 PM
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Re: Why are G2 GS-R's so rare? Any ideas? (DCcliffjumper2)
1. First Honda vtec equipped 4 cylinder vehicle sold in the states (the prelude would get it's h22 vtec in 1993)
Umm, did you forget about the 92 Civic Si and Ex?
Also, the B17 was a bastard child. The motor does have some problems. It was a USDM motor only so parts are rare and some of the 'normal' B series parts don't transfer over.
Still though, cool cars. All the ones I have seen for sale have very high miles on them and/or they have been that green color.
Umm, did you forget about the 92 Civic Si and Ex?
Also, the B17 was a bastard child. The motor does have some problems. It was a USDM motor only so parts are rare and some of the 'normal' B series parts don't transfer over.
Still though, cool cars. All the ones I have seen for sale have very high miles on them and/or they have been that green color.
05-21-2004, 10:33 PM
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Re: Why are G2 GS-R's so rare? Any ideas? (Todd00)
It won't be a collectors car because there is simply not enough special items to have it set apart from other 90-93 integras. PLUS 90-93 integras are nowhere near the popularity of the 94-01 Integra, 88-00 Civic, and 88-91 CRX in terms of modding and resale value.
05-21-2004, 10:44 PM
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Re: Why are G2 GS-R's so rare? Any ideas? (Todd00)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Todd00 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> Umm, did you forget about the 92 Civic Si and Ex?
Also, the B17 was a bastard child. The motor does have some problems. It was a USDM motor only so parts are rare and some of the 'normal' B series parts don't transfer over.
Still though, cool cars. All the ones I have seen for sale have very high miles on them and/or they have been that green color.</TD></TR></TABLE>
i think he ment the first dohc vtec engine. not just the first vtec engine.
Also, the B17 was a bastard child. The motor does have some problems. It was a USDM motor only so parts are rare and some of the 'normal' B series parts don't transfer over.
Still though, cool cars. All the ones I have seen for sale have very high miles on them and/or they have been that green color.</TD></TR></TABLE>
i think he ment the first dohc vtec engine. not just the first vtec engine.
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Re: Why are G2 GS-R's so rare? Any ideas? (beaterman)
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i think he ment the first dohc vtec engine. not just the first vtec engine.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Yeah, cause technically the first VTEC engine in the US was the '90 or '91 NSX.
I forget which year the NSX came out, though.
And, the '92-'93 GS-R is a collectable car already. Despite what's been posted. Just look at the prices asked and paid for for even the high-mileage '92-'93 GS-R's compared to the same mileage RS's and LS's. At least a $1000 higher if not much more.
i think he ment the first dohc vtec engine. not just the first vtec engine.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Yeah, cause technically the first VTEC engine in the US was the '90 or '91 NSX.
I forget which year the NSX came out, though.
And, the '92-'93 GS-R is a collectable car already. Despite what's been posted. Just look at the prices asked and paid for for even the high-mileage '92-'93 GS-R's compared to the same mileage RS's and LS's. At least a $1000 higher if not much more.
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Re: Why are G2 GS-R's so rare? Any ideas? (beaterman)
Originally Posted by beaterman
i think he ment the first dohc vtec engine. not just the first vtec engine.
Originally Posted by 4crx4me
Yeah, cause technically the first VTEC engine in the US was the '90 or '91 NSX.
I forget which year the NSX came out, though.
And, the '92-'93 GS-R is a collectable car already. Despite what's been posted. Just look at the prices asked and paid for for even the high-mileage '92-'93 GS-R's compared to the same mileage RS's and LS's. At least a $1000 higher if not much more.
I forget which year the NSX came out, though.
And, the '92-'93 GS-R is a collectable car already. Despite what's been posted. Just look at the prices asked and paid for for even the high-mileage '92-'93 GS-R's compared to the same mileage RS's and LS's. At least a $1000 higher if not much more.
as for the color, it's the only integra to come in aztec green that year.....I know it also came in white, red, and black.....but those colors were not exclusive for integras.
I never said it wouldn't be a collectors car, I just said it isn't one.....meaning as of right now.........give it another ten years and then maybe we will see
Originally Posted by Todd00
1. First Honda vtec equipped 4 cylinder vehicle sold in the states (the prelude would get it's h22 vtec in 1993)
Umm, did you forget about the 92 Civic Si and Ex?
Also, the B17 was a bastard child. The motor does have some problems. It was a USDM motor only so parts are rare and some of the 'normal' B series parts don't transfer over.
Still though, cool cars. All the ones I have seen for sale have very high miles on them and/or they have been that green color.
Umm, did you forget about the 92 Civic Si and Ex?
Also, the B17 was a bastard child. The motor does have some problems. It was a USDM motor only so parts are rare and some of the 'normal' B series parts don't transfer over.
Still though, cool cars. All the ones I have seen for sale have very high miles on them and/or they have been that green color.
A unigue and sometime troubled motor won't stop a car from becoming a collectors item. Look at the ugly and shitty Delorean..........it's a collectors item though they were shitty and only started selling when John Delorean got busted for Cocaine and Back to the Future came out. So the 92-93 gsr can still become a collectors item despite and because of it's b17 motor.
Originally Posted by B2FiNiTY
It won't be a collectors car because there is simply not enough special items to have it set apart from other 90-93 integras. PLUS 90-93 integras are nowhere near the popularity of the 94-01 Integra, 88-00 Civic, and 88-91 CRX in terms of modding and resale value.
I like all the discussion my post rang up
.........and thanks for any needed corrections or clarifications sorry for the really long response, but I had a few posts to address cause they were addressing mine
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Re: Why are G2 GS-R's so rare? Any ideas? (DCcliffjumper2)
i looked for 3 mouths for a stock 1992 or 1993 gsr. i found one local. i payed 5000 for it. that was alot but i have always wanted one so i payed what ever for it. now the car is turbo and all the options that came on it are gone like ac powersteering curise control, but oh well..i love turbo.. ( oh and i know u can get all those options on a ls that year to..) i still have the b17a motor in it with 168k on it and its turbo now on 10psi. runs great. its a honda motor before i was turbo i sprayed a 75shot of nitrious on it ever week end for about 5 mouths and now i boosting 10psi every day driving. its great (knock on wood) i want to buy a stock 1993 gsr for a daily driver and not mod it...
before i was turbo i sprayed a 75shot of nitrious on it ever week end for about 5 mouths and now i boosting 10psi every day driving. its great (knock on wood) i want to buy a stock 1993 gsr for a daily driver and not mod it...
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Re: Why are G2 GS-R's so rare? Any ideas? (G"UNIT)
i didnt even know what a gsr was when i bought my ls... ive only seen ONE for sale around st. louis. it was still half way across the state. id like one, but i never see g2 gsr's, or even g2s for sale in st.louis.
id like to have a db. but my ls is in great condition so im not really complaining that much.
id like to have a db. but my ls is in great condition so im not really complaining that much.
05-22-2004, 08:42 AM
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Re: Why are G2 GS-R's so rare? Any ideas? (Todd00)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Todd00 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Also, the B17 was a bastard child. The motor does have some problems. It was a USDM motor only so parts are rare and some of the 'normal' B series parts don't transfer over.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Hold on there.
B17 blocks are the same blocks as B16's with a different crank, rod, and piston. Anything that can fit a B16A block will fit a B17A block.
As for keeping a B17a 1.7L, all B-series pistons fit the engine. I have CTR pistons in mine.
Hold on there.
B17 blocks are the same blocks as B16's with a different crank, rod, and piston. Anything that can fit a B16A block will fit a B17A block.
As for keeping a B17a 1.7L, all B-series pistons fit the engine. I have CTR pistons in mine.
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Re: Why are G2 GS-R's so rare? Any ideas? (DCcliffjumper2)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DCcliffjumper2 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">as for the color, it's the only integra to come in aztec green that year.....I know it also came in white, red, and black.....but those colors were not exclusive for integras. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Let me add to this a bit.
In the US, white, green, and red were offered.
In Canada, white, black, and red were offered.
Aztec green was a US only color. Black was a Canada only color for the GSR.
I have only seen one black GSR that came from Honda that way. The guy drove it to CA from Canada. If I was going to buy a GSR, it would be a Canadian model.
Let me add to this a bit.
In the US, white, green, and red were offered.
In Canada, white, black, and red were offered.
Aztec green was a US only color. Black was a Canada only color for the GSR.
I have only seen one black GSR that came from Honda that way. The guy drove it to CA from Canada. If I was going to buy a GSR, it would be a Canadian model.
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Re: Why are G2 GS-R's so rare? Any ideas? (4crx4me)
Someone buy this:
http://losangeles.craigslist.org/car/31809072.html
1992 Acura Integra GSR Low Mileage-85,500 - $4500
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Date: 2004-05-21, 4:33PM PDT
1992 Acura GSR in good condition. Only 85,500 miles. 2-Door hatchback, Manual Transmission, VTEC engine, alarm, keyless entry, power windows, moon roof. One of Consumer Reports "best bets" for used cars. 25 m.p.g
$4,500 o.b.o.
http://losangeles.craigslist.org/car/31809072.html
1992 Acura Integra GSR Low Mileage-85,500 - $4500
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Date: 2004-05-21, 4:33PM PDT
1992 Acura GSR in good condition. Only 85,500 miles. 2-Door hatchback, Manual Transmission, VTEC engine, alarm, keyless entry, power windows, moon roof. One of Consumer Reports "best bets" for used cars. 25 m.p.g
$4,500 o.b.o.
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Re: Why are G2 GS-R's so rare? Any ideas? (4crx4me)
In the US... 92-95 civic si, ex, and delsol si. I used to have one of these motors in my CRX that i just got rid of for my 98 GSR.
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