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Old Apr 27, 2004 | 05:51 PM
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Anybody here ever use a Cool can?

(Dry ice goes in there, if you're wondering)
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Old Apr 27, 2004 | 05:55 PM
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you can make your own with some copper tubing and a suitable container, use quick disconnect fittings and use it only at the track
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Old Apr 27, 2004 | 05:57 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jetpilot &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">use it only at the track</TD></TR></TABLE>

Why?
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Old Apr 27, 2004 | 07:12 PM
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are you going to carry dry ice with you all the time? maybe if you also had an ice cream car
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Old Apr 28, 2004 | 08:23 AM
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Old Apr 28, 2004 | 11:04 AM
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You can have it all the time, but only put ice on it when you are going to track.

A friend of mine has one, and he tells me, when he put ice there, the car changes a lot. I say that this can can free some 5hp-10hp.
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Old Apr 28, 2004 | 12:16 PM
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wouldn't increasing the fuel density just make the car run richer?
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Old Apr 28, 2004 | 12:30 PM
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Maybe if the fuel is denser then it will allow more space for the oxygen. Because we only can take in so much so if the fuel takes up less space then its a good thing. Just an Idea. I might be 110% wrong too.
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Old Apr 28, 2004 | 12:33 PM
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i use in my old car, works great and runs a bit leaner on the track. highly recommended but no space in these damn hondas for them.

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Old Apr 28, 2004 | 12:50 PM
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How would it make it leaner if it makes the fuel denser?

I am really unsure how this mod works or is beneficial
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Old Apr 28, 2004 | 02:39 PM
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Cold gas is alot more combustable than warm gas. When cold gas hits warmer air it vaporizes faster. Also when gas is hot it is prone to vaporlock which is tiny air bubbles in the gasoline.
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Old Apr 28, 2004 | 03:06 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by StyleTEG &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
I am really unsure how this mod works or is beneficial </TD></TR></TABLE>

you do know that domestic racers have been doing this for years, correct?

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Old Apr 28, 2004 | 03:27 PM
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Excellent, thanks for the response.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
you do know that domestic racers have been doing this for years, correct?
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I have herd of it being done, but that doesn't mean that there isn't reason to know why it works than just assuming it does. Further, because it works on one car, doesnt' mean it is beneficial to all cars. Especially considering domestic racers are often carbed, which is much different to manage fuel wise than injection.

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Old Apr 28, 2004 | 03:31 PM
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it works
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Old Apr 28, 2004 | 03:35 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by GSRswapandslow. &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">it works</TD></TR></TABLE>

Great. Some like to take others word for it.

Personally I would rather know why something works, than just one person saying it does on the internet. Maybe I am in the minority.
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Old Apr 28, 2004 | 07:14 PM
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Just some random information that on some of the old E30 bmw's that we get in our shop ive seen that some of them have a canister that surrounds one of the ac lines (high or low side, the cold one, i can never remember random **** like that.) and fuel passes through that canister and around the line, then passing out of the canister and proceeding to the fuel rail to be burned, thereby cooling down the fuel and making the fuel charge denser (im not really completely sure what that does for atomization of fuel and air, but i though it was neet nontheless)

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Old Apr 29, 2004 | 01:49 PM
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What if the cooler fuel helps cool the air that it comes into contact with?

Now I've also heard of V8 guys running with these too. It makes sense that the air going through the carb gets cooler because the air/fuel has to go through the runners of the Intake manifold or sometimes even a spacer plate. Whereas with us the fuel is only mixed with the air for the short duration of the intake ports and then the Combustion chamber. Perhaps it would be less effective on a Fuel injected car.

I wonder if running the "Cool can" with dry ice has the potential to completely freeze the fuel? I don't know what temp Fuel freezes at but Dry ice is Very cold?

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Old Apr 29, 2004 | 02:43 PM
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i could believe it works simply based on the fact of how my car reacts after i put $5 worth of gas in it after my cars sat in the sun for a day or more. It seems more responsive every single time, so im sure cooling the gas another good 20+ degrees(im assuming gas underground is 65 degrees or so) would make a noticeable difference
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Old Apr 29, 2004 | 03:09 PM
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If it works, I'd buy it.. But I'd like to hear from some people that have used them, I've heard of 10HP gains running with a cool can.

10HP for $90 isn't bad at all.
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Old Apr 29, 2004 | 03:27 PM
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says theyre NHRA legal, but how about other sanctioning bodies, and for street class???
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Old Apr 29, 2004 | 03:45 PM
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it should work great for those running ITB with the injectors farther up top (like using the stock motorcycle injector holes on DIY ITB) cause then the air would have more time to cool with the cool fuel
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Old May 1, 2004 | 06:35 AM
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Old May 20, 2004 | 04:34 PM
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Going to make a DIY cool can, don't want to spend much money on something if I'm not sure about it.

Any ideas on making one?
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Old May 20, 2004 | 05:11 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by LSVTEC 91 Civic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> http://store.summitracing.com/...65125



Anybody here ever use a Cool can?

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sorry to say but that wont work on EFI setup.. we tried it back in the days.. it works for carburated setups.. with very low fuel pressure. like 3-5 psi.. not for 40 and up psi.. it leaks all over the place.. there is another kind that they make for efi.. its all alluminum and has no place to leak. look in some old jegs u might find it.. nice try though.
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Old May 21, 2004 | 03:23 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by MHRacing-310 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

sorry to say but that wont work on EFI setup.. we tried it back in the days.. it works for carburated setups.. with very low fuel pressure. like 3-5 psi.. not for 40 and up psi.. it leaks all over the place.. there is another kind that they make for efi.. its all alluminum and has no place to leak. look in some old jegs u might find it.. nice try though. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Thanks a lot for the info.
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