Anyone know of a stroker kit to take the H22A to H26A? Yes 2.6 Litres.

 

97+ h22 block, f23 crank, 90mm pistons should get you close. 2point6 on this site could help you more than me.

 

don't think there is, crower makes one that makes it 2.4L but i haven't heard of a 2.6L one yet.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by civicsitek GanGsTa &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">97+ h22 block, f23 crank, 90mm pistons should get you close.</TD></TR></TABLE>
90mm bore X 97mm stroke = 2,468cc's.

You'd need a 102mm stroke (w/ a 90mm bore) to reach 2.6 liters . . . . good luck.

 

golden eagle can do a custom kit to make a 2.6 h22
thats what i'm in the process of saving money for
bore and sleeve to 91mm,91mm pistons,custom length rods,custom crank,step deck

 

The kit includes all of that?

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thats what i'm in the process of saving money for
bore and sleeve to 91mm,91mm pistons,custom length rods,custom crank,step deck</TD></TR></TABLE>

How much? I am interested. Maybe I can talk to a friend of mine, and we can get a discount if we buy 3 together....

 

i talked to tom@camp1320 about it and a ballpark figure of $4,000 came up

 

Rods, resleeve, pistons, block work, head work, and custom crankshaft for $4,000? I'm skeptical.

 

that price doesn't count any headwork
just bottom end
and he said $4,000 is a "ballpark" figure

 

This is all great, but is this car streetable or are you in the garage once a week changing a head gasket and retuninig?

 

it probably won't see much street driving once this is done
golden eagle makes a 91mm headgasket
hopefully it'll hold up

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ebp 99 si &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">golden eagle can do a custom kit to make a 2.6 h22
thats what i'm in the process of saving money for
bore and sleeve to 91mm,91mm pistons,custom length rods,custom crank,step deck</TD></TR></TABLE>

not much room for error there though.

 

talk to 2point6, i remeber chating with him about how he had come up with a sick setup that would involve using a deck plate, some ford rods, a custom crank and taking out the balancer shafts and putting in reduculouly thick sleves and boring out like crazy

 

Yeap, he did his own at 2.44 liters because every setup he tried at 2.6 ended up breaking. Definitely talk to him

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by prelittlelude &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">talk to 2point6, i remember chating with him about how he had come up with a sick setup that would involve using a deck plate, some ford rods, a custom crank and taking out the balancer shafts and putting in reduculouly thick sleves and boring out like crazy</TD></TR></TABLE>

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by prelittlelude &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">talk to 2point6, i remeber chating with him about how he had come up with a sick setup that would involve using a deck plate, some ford rods, a custom crank and taking out the balancer shafts and putting in reduculouly thick sleves and boring out like crazy</TD></TR></TABLE>

i was going to say, usiong a deck plate is the way to go w/this setup. if you want 2.6l, and dont go w/deck plate your going to have crazy stroke, and shitty r/s ratio.

w/the deck plate you can have the crazy stroke, AND have a better r/s then the h22 does.

and 91 mm is way pushing it...ive heard 89mm fi, 90 mm n/a is max...im dropping my 90mm fi h22 in there today so well see.

 

A deck plate and longer rod is going to do nothing about the outrageous piston speeds youll have with a 98+mm crank. All the deck plate will do is relieve a little of the immense side load youll have with a large stroke.

 

That would be nuts. Good luck. Don't let others stop you from inovation.

 

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never said it would...but that little bit of side load is a lot...why do u think h23 spin bearing soo much...

and k-series use 99mm caranks, so it can be realiable...dont think 1 would fit in h-block, but making a comparison...

 

heres 90 mm for ya:

 

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man you suck at posting pictures,, lol

 

Is the 90mm bore going to be ran on the street?

Im kinda toying with the idea of going 90 as apposed to 89 for a street car

 

are you really going to make that much more power with 90 as opposed to 89? what kind of power difference are we talking about

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SoCalude98 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">A deck plate and longer rod is going to do nothing about the outrageous piston speeds youll have with a 98+mm crank. All the deck plate will do is relieve a little of the immense side load youll have with a large stroke.</TD></TR></TABLE>

actually the deck plate and longer rod will reduce piston speeds across the top 180 by increasing the rod/stroke ratio which will reduce side load on cylinders and pressure on the bearings also, you absolutely need a deck plate and longer rod because if you did it with the stock deck height with the stroke at 97 mm that means you would have to use rods that are 138 mm which would leave you with a rod/stroke ratio of 1.42 which would let you rev to about 5500 before it blows? To acheive a rod/stroke ratio of 1.75 with a 97 mm crank you would need to deck the block + 32.05mm to utilize a 169.75 mm rod, by doing this you will also decrease the the cylinder wall to rod angle from 20.8ยบ to 16.6ยบ which will help your bearings and cylinder walls, and using the longer rod will decrease piston speeds along the 90ยบ approaching and leaving TDC from 28.750 m/s to 27.800 m/s@ 7500 rpm in the upper 90ยบ revolution. This will also increase cylinder pressure for a longer duration of time but it will also slightly decrease the vacuum on the intake cycle.

man, that was long and it also took alot of calculating... by the way that is with a 97 mm crank, using a larger stroke will increase piston speeds even more

keep in mind that the piston speed of a stock h22 with a r/s of 1.59 @ 7500 rpm at the 90บ before and after TDC are 26.330 m/s


Modified by Speedra500 at 10:49 PM 4/20/2004

 

A deck plate and longer rods will reduce the affects of piston speeds and increase the dwell at TDC but WILL NOT decrease piston speeds.

Calculate it, rod length isnt even a factor when calculating piston speeds.

98mm and below cranks are do-able for a street/strip motor. Anything over that.. good luck, hope youve got money to spend.

Finding a head/cam/IM combo that will work and supply the amount of "breath" needed for something like that is a task in itself.

 

damn
it sounds pretty complicated
i still have to talk to them and get all the details on everything before i do this