I was at International Auto Salon in SoCal yesterday, and will be as soon as I'm done typing this....but here's what I found out from the people at SPC:

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1. cast aluminium
2. adjustable camber
3. adjustable caster
4. retail of $180 each

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Here's how they add in the caster, the bolt on the ball joint can be offset, square washer aligns it in the A-arm, and the square washer can be turned to provide a different mounting offset...not the best description, but I hope that the picture is a little easier to understand:



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Modified by Austin at 11:06 PM 4/5/2004

 

neat !

 

those look real nice..any word on what application's they will have.

gotta be 88-91 civic crx!!

 

I went back and took a few more pictures of the ball joint, and how it all works...so once I download, then upload the pics I'll post them up.

Austin

 

with that upward sweep design, its def not for 4g civic 2g teg

-spenc

 

I recently bought the older style steel version. It seems that the adjustments are more "beefy" and camber adjustable with a screw instead of sliding.

 

I hope the outer ball joint doesn't start migrating

Not a fan of adjustable suspension points that don't have positive stops...

 

Looks good. But I too wonder if the ball joint will stay in place under heavy loading. It would be nicer to have camber adjustment via a rod end, with slots to move it side to side and adjust camber.

 

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Not a fan of adjustable suspension points that don't have positive stops...</TD></TR></TABLE>



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Updated with new pictures.

 

Those SPC parts look great. When are they available?

Here's the arm for those who are concerned that the 1-nut theory isn't a good one...

 

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any theory involving one nut, has to be a bad one...

 

lol, too true

My experience with the standalone SPC camber adjustable upper ball joints is that alignment shop guys are too weak to tighten them enough. I can normally get almost a full turn in after one of them finish adjusting mine. This equates to realtime variable camber

 

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exactly.

not a fan of aluminum suspension mounts either.

 

There's nothing wrong w/ aluminum suspension components. They're used from the factory on much heavier cars than ours. However, this design looks like it'll slip even easier than the Skunks.

Warren

 

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seeing as both suspension connection points are fixed, the rod end adjustments with one nut arent gonna back out or move anywhere. so one nut will serfice

-spenc

 

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street cars , not race cars.

use aluminum for anything under constant tension/compression loads in a race application and see how long it takes to fail.

thin wall moly is a much better choice that usually equates to stronger and less weight.

 

whats the website for SPC?the a-sports products are good except they are expensive..vision makes an adjustable upper a-arm but i just found that out so i dont know how good they are.

 

so are they making those SPC arms for the 88-91 crx?

 

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street cars , not race cars.

use aluminum for anything under constant tension/compression loads in a race application and see how long it takes to fail.

thin wall moly is a much better choice that usually equates to stronger and less weight.
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I guess you should tell that to PD Cunningham who won a whole lot of races in his NSX using aluminum components for the suspension arms.

 

I think the original ones are better. I have those on my car. On these, it looks like the balljoint is gonna start sliding around on that metal plate.

 

Any updates on this?

 

MMmmMM SPHERICAL BEARINGS...

i dunno, i wish i could swithc bushing meterial in my ingalls to that of a solid.

by ingalls worked fine since day one, just lubed itup once nad doesnt crunch/squeek anymore.

 

I dont think they will work on a lowered EF. With the way it looks, the A-arm is arched to compinsate for the ball joints length. My car is already so low (to acieve more neg camber) that the top of the a-arm will hit the top of the fender well under full compression. I maybe wrong, but if it will work I will get them!!!

Aplication guide would be cool...

 

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I don't think the a-arms have spherical bearings in the pic, correct me if I'm wrong but just looks like pressed in bushings to me.