D series Oil Pump Mods For Better Flow and Presure

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Old Mar 15, 2004 | 04:50 PM
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Default D series Oil Pump Mods For Better Flow and Presure

Hey guys did some resarch and my own testing.

I bought a brand new Honda oil pump for the D series $80bucks CDN

Here are some pics

This pic notice the small opening, Ill open it up a bit with the dremel and smothin it out.



Also the oil pick-up tube i will port match.


Blending in the Oil pick up and the oil feed hole will smoth things out.


Disasembling: Straight forward remove the 6 screws and remove the cover.



Mark the oil gears with a marker.


These are the oil pump gears.


Now if u notice here the plug is ruffly the same depth when it goes in the oil feed hole.I'm going to weld about .5" of medal on to the bolt and seal it and screw it in so when it is in the hole it will be parrel with the oil hole. Then i will smoth it all out.


Now for the Oil control jet which controls the oil pressure i will shim it .025 thosands to increase the oil pressure



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Old Mar 15, 2004 | 05:23 PM
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Check this out http://www.theoldone.com/artic..._tips/

I wonder if you can cryo treat the the "pump gear" so it will be heavy duty like the toda forged gears. Or if there is a aftermarket gear for the d series oil pump.
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Old Mar 15, 2004 | 05:30 PM
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yeah there is a bit of info on that site but alot of people asked so here ill show my work.
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Old Mar 15, 2004 | 05:31 PM
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Maybe Prodrive?
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Old Mar 15, 2004 | 05:39 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JDMCRX &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yeah there is a bit of info on that site but alot of people asked so here ill show my work.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Cool... Are you going to see how much psi it puts out afterwards? I may try to attempt this too when I get around to building a project motor.

I checked prodrives website and they only have one for the prelude and gsr. Will either of those gears fit a d series pump?
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Old Mar 15, 2004 | 05:41 PM
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I went to buy a oil pump for my d16a6 today and the damn parts store quoted me $140 USD, where the hell can i get one for as cheapas you got yours???
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Old Mar 15, 2004 | 05:45 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by func-tion &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Cool... Are you going to see how much psi it puts out afterwards? I may try to attempt this too when I get around to building a project motor.

I checked prodrives website and they only have one for the prelude and gsr. Will either of those gears fit a d series pump?</TD></TR></TABLE>

The gears will not fit B series are bigger.

I will assemble my motor next month and post my oil presure numbers at idle and under full throtle.

I have a 4ft long -3 oil feed line and a oil cooler on my D series.
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Old Mar 15, 2004 | 05:48 PM
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Dahm guy ill get u a price thats out to lunch if iam correct ur motor is around $80 CDN which is $60us funds

PM me tomorrow.

Maybe this part is cheaper in Canada

All i know is when I used to work for HONDA the guys from NY would come buy parts off us like 35,000g's every year. So im guessing some of our prices are cheaper.
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Old Mar 15, 2004 | 06:56 PM
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The price thing made me wonder what I could get one for so I was checed out the oil pumps on http://www.hondaautomotiveparts.com

The one for the d16y8 is 61.70

And there is 2 different ones for the d16z6 one is 108.06 and the other is 112.12

Are all of these pumps the same?

EDIT:I checked out slhonda and got part numbers.

D16z6
15100-P06-A01
15100-P06-A02


D16y8
15100-P2A-A01

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Old Mar 15, 2004 | 07:57 PM
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Nice work.
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Old Mar 15, 2004 | 09:05 PM
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great info, i have been trying to figure out my damn pump for the longest...thanx!
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Old Mar 15, 2004 | 09:14 PM
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great writeup. Notepad . save.
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Old Mar 16, 2004 | 07:01 AM
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Did some porting last night ill post some pics when i get home.

Im also going to weld some material to the bung.

Let me know what u guys think.
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Old Mar 16, 2004 | 09:09 AM
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great tech

we need more love for the D

i never thought of port matching the oil passages
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Old Mar 16, 2004 | 09:36 AM
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The reason im doing this is cause when u put a turbo kit on the car u loose some oil pressure plus i got a oil cooler on the car so that takes a bit of flow and psi also.

So I know on my Dodge 2.2 i did this mod on the stock pump and i noticed the presure at idle up 2psi and at top end 2-4psi.

peace of mind. Thats my view.
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Old Mar 16, 2004 | 09:43 AM
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My oil pump part number for my z6 was 15100-P2A-305, and was $107.11. I had a breakdown that explained the honda part number digits, but can't find it.
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Old Mar 16, 2004 | 10:20 AM
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Yeah called today there both 151CDN

so they are cheaper in the USA
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Old Mar 16, 2004 | 12:33 PM
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Whats wrong with the stock, un-modified pump to begin with? I have never seen any problems with oiling on any Honda..........

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Old Mar 16, 2004 | 12:39 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ZEX Man &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Whats wrong with the stock, un-modified pump to begin with? I have never seen any problems with oiling on any Honda..........

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exactly
i asked my buddy that is being racing for years....
he said on the 12 years hes been reacing hondas and acuras , and many other cars, he has never seen an issue with hondas or acuras with their oil pumps, as either breaking or having problems pumping the nesesary pressure..

as a matter of fact.. when i blew my motor.. was due to a spun bearing particles that kept clogging my pick up filter from the pump and thats ho wi starved my engine... other than that... Honda OEM pumps are good as they are
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Old Mar 16, 2004 | 12:44 PM
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Well i notice on all the guys here and my car at idle the oil presure is low and so forth.

We will see ill post some numbers when i get it to work
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Old Mar 16, 2004 | 07:26 PM
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Progress for tonight after going for a spin in ELSPOOL's car.




More progress tomorrow after i get my DIE to rethead the plug.
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Old Mar 17, 2004 | 04:46 AM
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Welded the plug now got to get a die to re thread it cause the threads are a bit fubar.
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Old Mar 17, 2004 | 05:05 AM
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Since you have your heart set out to mess with a good thing...I wouldnt use the welded plug cause a piece of it could break off and blow the motor.Try and find a piece of brass(I think the plug is that material,if not try to match it) that you could use a die on to make one solid piece.
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Old Mar 17, 2004 | 05:38 AM
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Yeah im going to look today for that and see what i can do for a longer plug

Cause i was going to welded it up and re-thread it and then take some JB weld and put on the end of the plug and thread it in and right when i thighten it take my finger and force it all in around the gaps to fill them in then let it try then take the dremel and blend it in.

As for a piece braking off if it did it would go striaght to the oil filter and get stuck in there.
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Old Apr 14, 2004 | 08:47 PM
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Hey guys more progress got my *** in gear got the pluged re-threaded and JB welded it in place got to let it dry then tomorrow smooth it all out here are some pics.



ill post more pics tomorrow.
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