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Old Mar 9, 2004 | 06:58 PM
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Default installed brake pads - Car won't move!!! Help!

Just put on some Wearever Gold MKD-465's I got from Advance Auto Parts on my gf's 1997 Civic EX. I've changed pads/rotors countless times on my cars (Mazdas, Nissans, Acuras) and NEVER had this happen.

The fit was so tight with the pads on I had to beat the caliper down with a hammer.

I think the MF'er at Advance gave me the wrong kind - anyone know the dif between the wearever gold's & silvers?

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Old Mar 9, 2004 | 07:03 PM
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did you seat the caliper pistons down all the way? sometimes there's a cross hatch in the piston itself, and you have to turn them in to seat them properly.. just a guess! goodluck with it.
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Old Mar 9, 2004 | 07:08 PM
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same thing happened to me on my friends last brake install. the brake pad was the exact same one but the pad was too thick. i went back to the auto parts store and they gave me another one which wasnt as thick.
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Old Mar 9, 2004 | 07:12 PM
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- a hammer should never ever be used to install a brake caliper
- did you compare the new pads with the bad/worn pads to make shure they are exactly the same
- brake pads are cheap and very critical part buy OEM / OEM spec
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Old Mar 9, 2004 | 07:23 PM
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Default Re: installed brake pads - Car won't move!!! Help! (h22cvcsedan)

yeah - they are the same "shape". The pads fit in the caliper housing great - they just seam to thick. I checked the Advance site afterward and the "MKD 465" pad is listed as on option - AS SILVER - not Gold as the guy sold me.

According to the site there is a Wearever GOLD - MKD 273 - but it says "Except EX". WTF?

Here's a link (that prob wont work)
http://www.partsamerica.com/Se...Front
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Old Mar 9, 2004 | 07:41 PM
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ex is not the same part as the lx,dx according to the web site you have the correct part , it's just not the "gold" series like you were told
it sounds like it might be a problem with the linning thickness to me
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Old Mar 9, 2004 | 07:45 PM
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This might just be totally off the wall but how tight its your e-brake cable now?

Maby the cable had to be adjusted because of the thinner pads and now that you put something thick back in there it may be too tight.

Good luck with your problem though even if this was useless.
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Old Mar 9, 2004 | 07:51 PM
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yeah you didn't say if the problem was in the front or the rear I should have asked
ooohhh well
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Old Mar 9, 2004 | 07:56 PM
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Default Re: installed brake pads - Car won't move!!! Help! (h22cvcsedan)

It's the front pads. The rear's are drums.
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Old Mar 9, 2004 | 07:59 PM
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ex 's have all wheel disc brakes !!!
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Old Mar 9, 2004 | 08:01 PM
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not all civic model pads are interchangable. This actally happened to my autoteacher when he was fixing his sisters civic. She had a Dx, they put EX pads on, couldn't move.
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Old Mar 9, 2004 | 08:16 PM
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This Civic has an "EX" on the back and 2 little drum brakes on the rear. It seems all EX's have 4 wheel discs, except this one - but that is moot as the prob is with the front brakes.

I think I'm going to take the girthy pads back to the store and bring a micrometer so I can measure the new set they give me.

These same guys at Advance didn't seem to know what an impact driver was (to remove the putty-like screws on the rotor) when I asked for one - thankfully there was a fellow customer in the store that led me to them. He then said "hmm, must be a Honda"
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Old Mar 9, 2004 | 08:23 PM
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does the car have other ex options sunroof,vtec engine
sounds like it's not a ex model to me
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Old Mar 9, 2004 | 08:43 PM
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Default Re: installed brake pads - Car won't move!!! Help! (h22cvcsedan)

my Girls civic 2000 ex has rear drums as well. she bought it brand new from the dealer so not all civic ex had 4 wheel disk

the problem lies with the pad thickness or the piston in the caliper not being all the way retracted.
did you take the master cyclinder cap off when you pushed the piston back into the caliper. then the pads will sit in and the caliper will slide back over.

or have you checked the rotor for warping?
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Old Mar 9, 2004 | 08:44 PM
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Default Re: installed brake pads - Car won't move!!! Help! (h22cvcsedan)

I just ran the VIN through CARFAX and it came up as an EX...

Yes it has a sunroof. The CARFAX claims the car has a SOHC VTEC - but I'm not buyin' it. The valve cover doesn't say VTEC and from my experience, just about any Honda/Acura with a VTEC has it stamped there - and usually has VTEC decals on the sides.

and it has rear drum brakes.

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Old Mar 9, 2004 | 08:52 PM
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Si's are the only Civics that have the VTEC sticker on the side from the factory, and not all VTEC motors have VTEC stamped on them.
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Old Mar 9, 2004 | 09:01 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by h22cvcsedan &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> ex 's have all wheel disc brakes !!!</TD></TR></TABLE>

i think only automatic ex's had optional four wheel disk w/ abs in the u.s. of a
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Old Mar 9, 2004 | 09:39 PM
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are the rims stock? the pads may have made the caliper stick out and rub the rim thus making the car immobile. i've had this happen to a couple of my friends...
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Old Mar 9, 2004 | 09:43 PM
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All ex's have rear drum.
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Old Mar 10, 2004 | 06:42 AM
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Yeah - the rims are stock.
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Old Mar 10, 2004 | 07:53 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Tim2179 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I just ran the VIN through CARFAX and it came up as an EX...

Yes it has a sunroof. The CARFAX claims the car has a SOHC VTEC - but I'm not buyin' it. The valve cover doesn't say VTEC and from my experience, just about any Honda/Acura with a VTEC has it stamped there - and usually has VTEC decals on the sides.
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Hmmmm.. You sound like Mel Gibson in conspiracy theory if you ask me. My friend has an EX with valve cover only saying honda... RELAX..
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Old Mar 10, 2004 | 11:06 AM
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Haha...Yeah, well I got sidetracked by an individual that doubted whether or not this Civic was an EX or not.
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Old Mar 10, 2004 | 11:15 AM
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my only guess is that you didnt set the piston all the way back in the caliper. it could be stuck. you should get that checked out or do a rebuild. a friends wrx went into the wall at sebring cuz his pistons were malfunctioning before hand.
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Old Mar 10, 2004 | 11:17 AM
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theres about 5 different valve covers for the d series motors. only like 2 say vtec on em. valvecover is not a good indicator.
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Old Mar 10, 2004 | 11:22 AM
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I would just look for the vtec solenoid.. I have had 2 motors with both valve covers Not saying vtec and they both were.
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