Well heres the rundown I purchased some Jdm Itr recaros from this guy back on 1/23/04. Payment sent via paypal. At first I was skeptical because of the price, btu then I talked to Benbuilt4u, the guy who sold them to him, the guy had pictures, and he was a verified paypal member, with twice as many confirmed transaction as me. so far so good.

They had a snow storm the week I paid him so the seats didn't get shipped until 2/10/04. We had agreed to go through Greyhound package express since it was cheaper. I recieved an Email from Greyhound on the 9th saying they would be leaving the station within 24 hours and they would arrive at my local statin within 10-15 business days. 2 weeks go by and nothing, then the 15th business day rolls around and nothing. This I goy concerned and called the station, and found out that they don't even send confirmation emails and should only take 3-5 business days. 3 different people told me this. They said only way to track package is with the GLI#(tracking #), which this guy can't/won't produce for me. He said he no longer has the reciept, WTF!!!! how do you ship something worth more than 1k and not get a reciept

Well today is 3/9/04, paid on 1/23/04 and seats were supposodely shipped on 2/10. 1 month!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!They guy swears he sent them, but where the **** are they at!!!!!! I mean I asked him nicely to call his local station and see if he can fidn out where they are or get thsi tracking # for me and he has done nothing. He only tells me what I dont want to hear and he is no ignoring my Pm's

Here is the original thread, notice it's an archived thread already

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=742142



If the seats are lost I can deal with that, it's not knowing where your Thousand dollar seats are

 

Here is our Pm history since around 2/24/04

2:18 PM 2/24/2004) quikB18B: Hey i left a msg for you yesterday, I need the tracking #, or Lsi # for the seats., greyhound cant treack them with my name. Get back to me, I got the email from greyhound couple weeks ago. Station said they only take 3-5 days, while email said 10 business days? Gimme a call 800-369-x311
(2:18 PM 2/24/2004) quikB18B: Ill try your cell again
(8:40 PM 2/24/2004) QuanKwan: Hey wassup,

my cell has been acting up, so i havent been able to reach you! I believe Greyhound should have sent you an e-mail in regards to your shipment.

I don't have the receipt or copy of that email anymore. I think hotmail periodically clears my trash bin.

What other options does Greyhound offer ?

Let me know! best bet is IM on honda-tech, i usually go on periodically.

let me know if you need anything else.
(8:59 PM 2/24/2004) quikB18B: Yeah i got an email, but aol also erases them after like 2 weeks. do you still have the reciept? It should have the tracking #?. Email said 10-15 business days and today was the 12th, so hopefully they'll call me in the next couple days.
(8:59 PM 2/24/2004) quikB18B: nice avatar btw
(9:01 PM 2/24/2004) QuanKwan: ok cool, so perhaps they should call you soon. let me know when you get them! take care ~
(9:03 PM 2/24/2004) quikB18B: peace
(1:42 PM 2/27/2004) quikB18B: Hey i just called greyhound and nothing has arrived yet, I need the tracking # from the original reciept they gave you after you paid for shipping. Lady said thats the only way to track package, and she said It shouldnt have taken this long?
(10:31 AM 3/1/2004) quikB18B: ???
(8:35 PM 3/1/2004) QuanKwan: hey how are you doing? sorry i just got online, didnt you get that e-mail grayhound sent you, it should have the tracking information.
(10:42 PM 3/1/2004) quikB18B: I got it, but like your email it was erased, but it didint have a tracking # on it from what i can remmeber. all it says is that they would here in 10-15 days
(10:43 PM 3/1/2004) quikB18B: Do you have the reciept, can you call the station where you shipped them from? I really cant do much because I didint send them and i dont have a tracking #, so if you could call them and figure it out i woudl appreciatte it.
(11:11 PM 3/1/2004) QuanKwan: I wont be able to get down there until Thursday and see whatsup.

No I dont have the receipt. The tracking # should have been in the e-mail that was sent to you.


(7:53 AM 3/2/2004) quikB18B: Can you call? If not gimme the address and ill call the station. I just want to know whats going on. The email said 10-15 business days and the station customer service dept says it only takes 3-5 days to arrive from DC area? Really makes me wonder

And for the 3rd time I dont't have the email anymore.

Can you please call them today, you don't have to go down there just call them.
8:51 AM 3/2/2004) quikB18B: Oh and I just got off the phone with Greyhound and they told me that they don't send emails to the buyers that thier package is shipped. They said when shipping from station to station the buyer is notified only by phone call when they arrive! Im really starting to doubt that youve even sent anything. Also he said it only takes 3-5 days, not 10-15 business days like it said in that email. I really hope your not trying to scam me, but ill give you a chance to sort it out with the station by tomorrow at noon. If not im making a thread in classifieds about this.
(11:18 PM 3/2/2004) QuanKwan: I can assure you that I did send it out. I have sold many things and never had any problems. You can ask anybody here on Honda-tech and Team-Integra. I would never scam anyone.

I have many references even tho I have only been a member on H-T for not a long period of time.

You can ask Benbuilt4u, Smitdog, kendogg, Tweakmeister, TypeR2c, JDM CTR EK are just a few to name, that I am legit.

I have sold 3 set of recaros without any problems including yours.

Please do not bad mouth me and think that I scammed you.

I will do what I can to sort things out.


(11:31 PM 3/2/2004) quikB18B: Okay like I said I will give you the benifit of the doubt that they were sent, because right now more things favor that your legit, it's just that the whole email thing made me think differently. Maybe its a policy up North, at your greyhound station and not down here. I dont know they just said that they dont send emails so it just made me think. I have confidence in the sale, i'm sure you understand where im at though. Theyve been shipped for more than 3 weeks,a dn im just a little concerned thats all.
(11:32 PM 3/2/2004) quikB18B: I talked to benbuilt4u, i noticed your excellent paypal record, ect... so thats why I felt comftorabel in the first place .
(11:34 PM 3/2/2004) quikB18B: Maybe they just got delayed, anyways if you could find out tomorrow I would appreciatte it.
(12:31 AM 3/5/2004) quikB18B: Still not here, What did you find out?
(10:39 AM 3/5/2004) quikB18B: I called just now and thye don't have anything, btw there is two Dallas GRehound station which one did you send it to Dallas South(desoto) or the Downtown station.

What i need is the GLI # to track the package. I need you to call the station to get that. Btw what station did you send it from?

It's been almost a month since you shipped them, so ther no doubt in my mind that they are lost, so we need to find out where these are. I talked to Benbuilt4u and he said grehound shipping is quick.
(6:47 PM 3/7/2004) quikB18B: ?
(10:47 AM 3/8/2004) quikB18B: tomorrow will be a week since you said you would find out and I havent heard back? Tomorro will be one month since they were shipped
Im not trying to be an ******* but I paid you 6 weeks ago, and I dont have the seats, and you cant provide a tracking #, so I can atleast find out where my seats are.
(10:48 AM 3/8/2004) quikB18B: You have to understand threes nothing more I can do from my side., I call greyhound everyday hoping they are there. If you shipped them obviously they are lost, so im just trying to find out where they are.

 

damb dude i would realy do something about that, imean 1,000 and you dont get **** damb bro that sucks

 

Damn Iggy that's messed up!


I know that there are a lot of members here who live in VA.... I would try IM them to see if they can help you out. Well you said he was paypal verifyed... did you contact them?

if so what can paypal do?

Also I do a lot of sales here and I know that when you ship with Greyhound they have a postcard size paper recipt with confirmation number. When he is filling out the destination info he is suppose to put down your name, address, and 2 contact phone#, so that in the event that they arrive at the local station they can call you. After a long time they even mail it to you but they charge you extra for that at the door.

So in any chase if he did deliver it the station should have the shipping info with your name, address and contact phone#ers!

This is messed up ! I hate scammers.
I take it that he has not IM you or returne you phone calls also?

 

Well Paypal is a big crock of ****. They don't accept claims after 30 days, and in my case im SOL. See i sent pm ton 1/23, it took him until 2/10 to ship them which is 17 days later, then the email i got (which I think is bogus) said 10-15 business days so by the time I would even become suspicious it's too late to file claim. I don't know if this is just a coincidence, or he pulled a fast one there, so Paypal couldn't reverse the pmt.
See after they were supposodely shipped the 15th business day was on 2/27/04, a mere 34 days after pmt had been sent

F*ck Paypal they could care less about transactions that go south, all they care about is thier stupid fees.

As far as greyhound yes once the package arrives at the buyers local station they contact him by phone to come pick up. Problem is if It was lost and went to the wrong station don't you think they woould still call?

Theres a part of me that believes that they were sent, but I have no way of knowing because I HAVE NO TRACKING #!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

iggy i have an idea.....if u used VISA to pay for the seats through paypal...VISA will reimburse your money because they protect you 100% when buying stuff online....i was in a simular situation and called my bank (bank of america) and told them i bought something off ebay and never received it. i used paypal to pay for the item (they are a crock of ****)....bank of america had my money back in my checking account in like 2 weeks

 

WHOA!! I was going to guy those seats from that guy, Offered him a lower price, but he said he had already sold them and he was going to ship them out. I've gotten other things from him before and so have my friends, everything went well. I know BenBuilt4u personally and He's a good guy. QuanKwan I know of, but only because I have gotten things off him. I am sure there's a reason for this mess up. I'll contact him about it myself for you.

 

Thanks for the help, I recognized your screen name because he had used you as a reference of someone he had sold to.

See im 99% sure he had the seats because Benbuilt4u sold them to him, I saw pics, and the intial thread said Local only, but he offered to ship after I made the arangements, got the prices from greyhound, and told him I would pay his asking price.

I even paid an extra $40 on top of shipping, because he said he needed to buy boxes from greyhound. Shipping was $100 for the seats, and we agreed on $140 for shipping in case he had to buy the boxes. I didn't mind at all because I can imagine the hassle of shipping some seats,and having to buy shipping material. If he were to have found two boxes on the side of the road, and used them I wouldnt have minded, I felt it was only fair to over compensate for his troubles.

But now 6 weeks later im the only with troubles, no $$$ and no seats

 

I've bought many things from Quan before and he's 100% legit.

From my experiences with shipping with Greyhound, a reciept with GLI tracking number is always produced. Items take 3-5 days to arrive to the desired station. They almost never call you when the package arrives. You must call the 1-800 to see if the package is there already. Items are only insured up to $100 each unless otherwise declared and can be insured for up to $1000 each for a mere $4 per package.

Greyhound does sometimes reroute packages to the wrong station as does any other carrier. Last time I shipped to New Rochelle, MN it went to New Rochelle, NY instead. Greyhound will give you an ETA to when it should arrive and if within a day or 2 later past the ETA date a simple call to the 1-800 cleared things up.

I'll contact Quan to see what's up. If he did loose the reciept and tracking number, he can go down to the Greyhound station and have them pulled up the reciept on their computer and print another copy.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sys3rror &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">a simple call to the 1-800 cleared things up.

I'll contact Quan to see what's up. If he did loose the reciept and tracking number, he can go down to the Greyhound station and have them pulled up the reciept on their computer and print another copy.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Thats what I've asked him to do sevral times, see problem is i've called everyday to my local station, I even looked up what I though to be his local station(Fairfax) and called and it was a big waste of time. I asked him for the station he sent it from=nothing, I asked him to call them or go down there=nothing.

The guy at the Fairfax station told me he could probbly look up the transaction, but said he can only do that is the shipper(Quan) does it, he said he can do nothing for me without the GLI#.

Btw What is the 800#?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by quikB18B &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Thats what I've asked him to do sevral times, see problem is i've called everyday to my local station, I even looked up what I though to be his local station(Fairfax) and called and it was a big waste of time. I asked him for the station he sent it from=nothing, I asked him to call them or go down there=nothing.

The guy at the Fairfax station told me he could probbly look up the transaction, but said he can only do that is the shipper(Quan) does it, he said he can do nothing for me without the GLI#.

Btw What is the 800#?</TD></TR></TABLE>
http://www.shipgreyhound.com
General Customer Service Inquiries: 1-800-739-5020
Billing Inquiries: 214-849-6046
Passenger Baggage Inquiries: 214-849-8966
Express Claims Department: 214-849-8620
Fax: 214-849-8608

once you have the tracking number, greyhound can determine the stops the bus made and will then contact each station to see if the package was accidently moved off the bus.

my guess is that it's sitting at a station between VA and MN right now

either that or a greyhound employee had sticky fingers

 

Thanks for the #'s

Just called 800#, lady said " Sorry I can't help you without the GLI #"

Quan,

If you could spare one hour to go down to the station and have them trace the transaction so we can get the tracking #. I will be more than happy to have a Moderator delete this thread once this is resolved.

 

Hey quikB18B I purchased the rest of quans items in that thread (itr ****, jdm armrest eliminator) and received them, no problems. Ive spoke with him over the telephone as well. This guy is definately not out to scam people, hes built a good reputation for himself here on ht. On the contrary you should consider changing the topic of the thread. It appears to me that greyhound has lost the shipment if you have not received them already. I know that you might be feeling a bit frustrated but just be patient im sure quan will come thru. If it makes you feel any better im still waiting for my recaro rails (already received the seats) but this has been on ongoing deal since august of 2003 but I know the seller is legit, btw his name on ht is ppihctyper (blake fuller @ braille Auto Development building the AWD integra) patience has been the key for me.

 

Kendogg thanks for your input, trust me before making the thread I highlky considered the proper way to title my thread. In conlcusion I said "I think" I didn't say he had officially scammed me. I don't mind if a moderator changes it to Quan where's my tracking #, I have no intentions of trying to ruin anyone's rep, as i know Quan has made some key references since he's been here on honda-tech.

See the problem is that I myself have established the fact that these are lost, but I have asked him several times to contact the station and he hasn't. Read the Pm's and you'll see what im talking about. I know if I were the seller, I would have been at the station rasiing havok. When i sell something no deal is done i my eyes until the buyer has recieved thier item(hence my excellent vouch thread)

Im not saying that he has scammed me, but all i know is I have no seats, and no tracking #, so as far as i know they are somewhere collecting dust.


go up and read the pm's I have asked Quan to do things in this situation to resolve it and he hasn't done anything. I've asked him ?'s that he hasn't answered, ect...

Not to mention I haven't heard from him in a week. He is aware of the situation, but I guess it doesn't mean as much to him because hes already been paid.

Kendogg I am a very patient person, seeing as how they were shipped more than 2 weeks after payment, and it's been 1 month since they were shipped.

If it were some $70-$100 dollar item, I would wait patiently and It wouldn't bother me so much, but I dont make much $$$ and I work hard for everything I make. I am an excellent trustworty seller and sometimes I just expect the same in return. Like I've said before I can deal with the fact that they may be lost, and i am willing to wait.....

I have made it specific that if it gets resolved amicably then I will be more than happy to have a moderator delete the thread after it's all said and done.

until then here I am 6 weeks later, no $$$$, and no seats. This was my last internet transaction as im 99% done with my car, and all i wanted was for it to go smoothly.

 

sorry to hear about this Iggy but i would be skeptical to send money to someone w/ only 78 post on H-T.com and even a good pay pal rating. pay pal sucks and i will never use them again.
-next time use http://www.escrow.com they will hold payment until goods have been delivered which should of happened w/ you.
-i recieved a front bumper for my integra long ago, stan sent it to me from cali, from greyhound and they called me to let me know it was at the station.

did u try to call other grey hound stations to see if they had ur seats sitting around?

although some people may say he is legit, he isnt coming thru for u. not serving you in your best interest by ignoring ur calls and IM's. that is BS. if he was concerned about his rep he would do every thing possible to clear things up and go above and beyond to get ur tracking #. he should send ur money back and when u get the seats, resend the money back to him.

for now this guy is a con artist until he can prove himself otherwise.

oh yeah: post his address and phone number until u get ur seats.

 

Stick I call the two local Dallas stations everyday, I've called a couple of the NOVa ones, but they are no help. Besides there are probably 50 stations between here and Nova, and everone tells me the same thing. "Call back when you have a tracking #".

Next time I will use Escrow.com , Paypla has been alright since I used them, but I just don't understand why they only allow 30 days for a claim to be filed? When i talked to them, they sounded like they could care less.


Stick, ill admit I was skeptical at first, but after doing some investigating, and talking to people I bought them with confidence. I saw pics, they were originally labeled as pick up only, and I even talked to Benbuil4u(jdm dealer) the guy he bought them from, Excellent paypal record. Although he doesn't have that many post, he had a few referenes and everything okay at the time.

 

I am the seller of the seats, and no I did not scam you! I have shipped them out as agreed upon via Grey Hound, and cost wise etc.

Originally I was selling these seats local only, but made an exception for you to ship these out.

I apologize, I do not go on the Honda-tech like everyone does everyday, I go on when I can, I am not ignoring you or else I would not be replying here.

I do apologize that I have not had time to make a trip down to the station, the station is about 40 min away, and it is not pretty to make it down there when you are coming from rush hour traffic.

I work like everyday just like everyone else, and are very busy. I will try my best and make time to go down there, please just be patient, I'm sure the seats are somewhere, grayhound is not exactly the greatest place to ship things, I have heard horror stories where they are lost and are stolen.

I would have much preferred UPS where you can actually track down everything. I do not have the receipt anymore, so please stop harassing me about that, the GLI # was sent to you via e-mail, i had it and you had it as well, but due to hotmail policies or whatever, they are periodically deleted at certain period of times.

I will try to work with you as best as I can, and to my ability. People who know me from here or whatever, and people who know me in person, money is not an issue, I would not scam anybody.

I will contact you when i can find more information about these seats, no need for you to bad mouth me in front of everyone.

 

Hey Iggy, I can vouch for Quan also cause he's a good friend of mine and he's not that kind of person that will screw people around. Something with Greyhound got messed up. It's true he works pretty much everyday. Sorry about your inconvenience....I hope it gets resolved soon.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by QuanKwan &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I would have much preferred UPS where you can actually track down everything. I do not have the receipt anymore, so please stop harassing me about that.
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What good would shipping Ups have done? You lost/threw away the reciept they gave you at the station, what difference would it have made if it was Ups??

Second Im not harrasing you about it, how would you feel it you had almost 1k worth of merchandise lost,god knows where? I work everyday to 8-5 and I always take the time to take care of my priorities. If your so busy to go down there, then why don't you call them? Again can you please call them? You don't understand they won't do **** for me because I didn't ship them.

I hope you understand that I have handled this situation alot better than most people here and hopefully you can respect that.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Type R 2c &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Hey Iggy, I can vouch for Quan also cause he's a good friend of mine and he's not that kind of person that will screw people around. Something with Greyhound got messed up. It's true he works pretty much everyday. Sorry about your inconvenience....I hope it gets resolved soon.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Thanks, I hope everything is resolved too...

 

i just had UPS smash 900 worth of HID lights. man shipping is getting bad.

the ONLY station in NOVA that ships is in woodbridge. It is 45 minutes for both of us too drive too. He is somewhat lazy . he also does things late at night and not much during the day. cause when he bought from em it was always 3am.


but i do think he will make it right no matter what happens.

ask him for some NICE PENS

 

Thats messed up Foo 1G......I dont know you QuanKwan, but you ended up chosing the place to ship it out...and you heard stories about the stuff there at the place being lost and stolen? thats F@#ked up..........but if that was me buying the seats from you ......We would of had some major problems....thats why I only buy stuff local....Can't trust people these days. ...Last time I had to drive down to San Antonio to get my money back with interest........Man Iggy I hope you get your stuff ......Iggy is a good guy and don't deserve this NONSENCE..... no escuses!!!

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by integrabois1991 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Thats messed up Foo 1G......I dont know you QuanKwan, but you ended up chosing the place to ship it out...and you heard stories about the stuff there at the place being lost and stolen? thats F@#ked up..........but if that was me buying the seats from you ......We would of had some major problems....thats why I only buy stuff local....Can't trust people these days. ...Last time I had to drive down to San Antonio to get my money back with interest........Man Iggy I hope you get your stuff ......Iggy is a good guy and don't deserve this NONSENCE..... no escuses!!! </TD></TR></TABLE> ok you internet thug, everyone should be scared of you. They BOTH agreed upon greyhound for shipping, and I believe that the seller originally wanted to ship out via UPS. Why don't you try to read through the thread instead of talking **** for your friend. Right now I just see that it is Greyhound's fault, either because they lost the seats or they were stolen. Quikb18b, if you had the tracking number before and lost it, you cannot put the blame on the seller.. but either way, I hope you get your seats. Were they insured?

 

Thank you very much, I'm not here to cause any trouble, we both agreed to these seats via grayhound, because it was more economical, others would have rapped on the shipping charges.

And yes, the tracking # was issued to the buyer, it was not my fault that he does not have it anymore, I am not hold responsible of that error by the buyer, not trying to be a dick or anything, which i bet most of you people think that I am, I am really not.

I am here to work the best deal for all you guys, not here to scam anyone, as i strongly express im really sorry that you did not get your seats yet, but i will do my best in my ability to make things work out.

i have sold many things with no problems, and have bought $$$$$$$$$$$$ a lot of people, yes I am a high spender, as people can vouch for me that I like to spend a lot of money, as a lot of people will say about me, I will buy buy buy, and end up selling everything and start all over.

Yes I hate wanna be thugs here on the net, its almost like high school all over. get over it! but as to iggy, i will do my best to work things out for you, im sorry you have not received your seats yet.

 

Sorry to hear.
Greyhound don't send email out to receiver's or sender's. But I know they'll call you when the package get to station for pickup.
Plus it don't take more than 4 days... They got buses going everywhere every day. There's no sense on hold the package in a area waiting, while there are buses going your way all most every hour.
I smell a scam