HID questions and best placesto buy...
was looking @ http://www.xenondepot.com for some HID's, but I don't know if thats the best place to get them at!
I was reading posts, and it appears to me that, the 4k ones don't "Bling" as much, but it's the best value/dollar, and the 6k + are just bling bling and the visibiality isn't as good, as 4k, so 4k is the best performance for it's money.
So where to buy from?
http://www.xenondepot.com
http://www.misterjung.com
http://www.hidplace.com
Any other places to look into to get HID's from?
and I've also heard to only get phillips... let me know if thats true or not..
I was reading posts, and it appears to me that, the 4k ones don't "Bling" as much, but it's the best value/dollar, and the 6k + are just bling bling and the visibiality isn't as good, as 4k, so 4k is the best performance for it's money.
So where to buy from?
http://www.xenondepot.com
http://www.misterjung.com
http://www.hidplace.com
Any other places to look into to get HID's from?
and I've also heard to only get phillips... let me know if thats true or not..
Go with XENON DEPOT!
Since they run the phillip bulbs. >_< And ive seen some nice lighting from ALOt of members here.
Heard Mr Jung Bulbs sucks ***? Correct me if im Wrong.
EIther stick with Phillips of Catz bulbs!
Since they run the phillip bulbs. >_< And ive seen some nice lighting from ALOt of members here.
Heard Mr Jung Bulbs sucks ***? Correct me if im Wrong.
EIther stick with Phillips of Catz bulbs!
I would have to add http://www.visualdynamics.ca onto the list... That's where I get all my HID equipment.
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Do not buy MISTERJUNG HID's...There are already several threads complaining about him including my own 
I love my bulb retro-fit

I love my bulb retro-fit
I have a Hella HID kit from Misterjung. I personally think his are some of the highest quality kits out there. Completely plug and play, only about 15 minutes to install. And you get your chioce from 4100k all the way up to 10,000k.
I have the 7000k (violet) and I couldn't be more pleased.


Modified by urbanracer98 at 11:19 AM 1/27/2004
I have the 7000k (violet) and I couldn't be more pleased.


Modified by urbanracer98 at 11:19 AM 1/27/2004
DON'T BUY MISTERJUNG!
Do some searching, there's a zillion horror stories.
XenonDepot =
I bought my 4100k kit from them and love it.
Do some searching, there's a zillion horror stories.
XenonDepot =
I bought my 4100k kit from them and love it.
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I've had the Phillips kit that Visualdynamics used to sell, for about 14 months now. The lighting is good, but still nowhere near OEM HID.
You can modify the stock Integra projectors somewhat, as shown here: http://hidforum.com/forum/show...=2451
But even then it's still not as good as OEM HID. I will be putting OEM HID projectors into my Integra housings soon. I will probably try to find some bi-xenon projectors, and new Phillips 4300K bulbs. Output will 0wn all other non-OEM HID, and also have the bluish flicker that all the 6000K+ kits try to copy but never quite acheive.
You can modify the stock Integra projectors somewhat, as shown here: http://hidforum.com/forum/show...=2451
But even then it's still not as good as OEM HID. I will be putting OEM HID projectors into my Integra housings soon. I will probably try to find some bi-xenon projectors, and new Phillips 4300K bulbs. Output will 0wn all other non-OEM HID, and also have the bluish flicker that all the 6000K+ kits try to copy but never quite acheive.
my buddy with a solara bought 6000k from xenondepot and he is very happy.. i have the mccullochs 4100k and i love em

Modified by ikendc2 at 9:15 AM 1/27/2004

Modified by ikendc2 at 9:15 AM 1/27/2004
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PatrickGSR94 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I will probably try to find some bi-xenon projectors, and new Phillips 4300K bulbs. Output will 0wn all other non-OEM HID, and also have the bluish flicker that all the 6000K+ kits try to copy but never quite acheive.
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Yep, most people think that their 5000+ K HID's look the same as the OEM 4100k blue/violet flicker that HID projectors create from refraction of light through a glass lens with proper optics.... Well, the 5000+ k are not even close. I can spot a 5000+ k HID from a mile away, which in the end, looks like PIAA blue bulbs. No decency in them at all IMO. They sacrifice light output from the colour as well, including the fact that they are installed in a non-HID projector. The light result is sometimes worse than stock halogens.
Patrick, great to hear that you are planning on retrofitting an OEM projector into the Integra housing
I sometimes wonder why I haven't done the retrofit sooner -- oh yes, that's right, I didn't have access to HID projectors back then
Here is a video that I have taken from HIDforums.com. Courtesy of dohdoh for the video. It shows the colour changing effect from an OEM HID projector. This is the colour it produces with an OEM 4100k D2S bulb. No stupid 5000+k crap here...
http://www.theklaibers.com/str...1.avi
</TD></TR></TABLE>Yep, most people think that their 5000+ K HID's look the same as the OEM 4100k blue/violet flicker that HID projectors create from refraction of light through a glass lens with proper optics.... Well, the 5000+ k are not even close. I can spot a 5000+ k HID from a mile away, which in the end, looks like PIAA blue bulbs. No decency in them at all IMO. They sacrifice light output from the colour as well, including the fact that they are installed in a non-HID projector. The light result is sometimes worse than stock halogens.
Patrick, great to hear that you are planning on retrofitting an OEM projector into the Integra housing
I sometimes wonder why I haven't done the retrofit sooner -- oh yes, that's right, I didn't have access to HID projectors back then
Here is a video that I have taken from HIDforums.com. Courtesy of dohdoh for the video. It shows the colour changing effect from an OEM HID projector. This is the colour it produces with an OEM 4100k D2S bulb. No stupid 5000+k crap here...
http://www.theklaibers.com/str...1.avi
i had a HORRIBLE experience with mister jung. they never responded to my e-mails. when they finally got the thing i needed in stock (never told me they were out, just left me hanging) it took like 1+ month when i needed it immediately...so i bought it else where. so now i have 1 extra set of a worthless socket adapter.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by shupajam »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ive heard a lot of compliments about http://www.misterjung.com
but i'd still do a retrofit
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BAHAHAHA!!! NOOOOOB!!
but i'd still do a retrofit
</TD></TR></TABLE>BAHAHAHA!!! NOOOOOB!!
Every person has different experiences...but, every kit I've seen from Misterjung is great. But, I have yet to have a bad experience there. I'm gonna have to look for these bad experiences on here and see what went wrong...
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Tony the Tiger »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Yep, most people think that their 5000+ K HID's look the same as the OEM 4100k blue/violet flicker that HID projectors create from refraction of light through a glass lens with proper optics.... Well, the 5000+ k are not even close. I can spot a 5000+ k HID from a mile away, which in the end, looks like PIAA blue bulbs. No decency in them at all IMO. They sacrifice light output from the colour as well, including the fact that they are installed in a non-HID projector. The light result is sometimes worse than stock halogens.
Patrick, great to hear that you are planning on retrofitting an OEM projector into the Integra housing
I sometimes wonder why I haven't done the retrofit sooner -- oh yes, that's right, I didn't have access to HID projectors back then
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Haha you are the MAN of HID Tony. Methinks you have outdone everyone else on this site, yes even MTK Kommander and Skafia (much love to you guys too, you've been lots of help to me so far).
I just hate not doing it right the first time. Just like my suspension, I should have saved up a little longer and gotten custom-rate GC's instead of H&R Sport springs, and now I have to end up spending more just to do it right.
Yep, most people think that their 5000+ K HID's look the same as the OEM 4100k blue/violet flicker that HID projectors create from refraction of light through a glass lens with proper optics.... Well, the 5000+ k are not even close. I can spot a 5000+ k HID from a mile away, which in the end, looks like PIAA blue bulbs. No decency in them at all IMO. They sacrifice light output from the colour as well, including the fact that they are installed in a non-HID projector. The light result is sometimes worse than stock halogens.
Patrick, great to hear that you are planning on retrofitting an OEM projector into the Integra housing
I sometimes wonder why I haven't done the retrofit sooner -- oh yes, that's right, I didn't have access to HID projectors back then
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Haha you are the MAN of HID Tony. Methinks you have outdone everyone else on this site, yes even MTK Kommander and Skafia (much love to you guys too, you've been lots of help to me so far).
I just hate not doing it right the first time. Just like my suspension, I should have saved up a little longer and gotten custom-rate GC's instead of H&R Sport springs, and now I have to end up spending more just to do it right.
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haha good thing I have probably 4 or 5 spare Integra projectors and housings laying around (some intact, some broken) so I don't have to take my 2000 Integra lights apart until I'm ready to swap the inside stuff right in.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Tony the Tiger »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Yep, most people think that their 5000+ K HID's look the same as the OEM 4100k blue/violet flicker that HID projectors create from refraction of light through a glass lens with proper optics.... Well, the 5000+ k are not even close. I can spot a 5000+ k HID from a mile away, which in the end, looks like PIAA blue bulbs. No decency in them at all IMO. They sacrifice light output from the colour as well, including the fact that they are installed in a non-HID projector. The light result is sometimes worse than stock halogens.
Patrick, great to hear that you are planning on retrofitting an OEM projector into the Integra housing
I sometimes wonder why I haven't done the retrofit sooner -- oh yes, that's right, I didn't have access to HID projectors back then
Here is a video that I have taken from HIDforums.com. Courtesy of dohdoh for the video. It shows the colour changing effect from an OEM HID projector. This is the colour it produces with an OEM 4100k D2S bulb. No stupid 5000+k crap here...
http://www.theklaibers.com/str...1.avi</TD></TR></TABLE>
it might just be the video..but you have a really nice cut off line and the light it produces is an awsome color i'd have to admit, but it seems like you can barely see anything ahead of you....i'm not really satisfied with my bmw bi-xenon retrofit yet because it's not as bright and the cut off line isn't as nice as yours in terms of the color it produces.
i followed skafia's instructions, but his is with an audi's projectors...so i made the 1" spacers also. do you think it's too long? as in do you think that the hid capsule is too far from the lens?
Yep, most people think that their 5000+ K HID's look the same as the OEM 4100k blue/violet flicker that HID projectors create from refraction of light through a glass lens with proper optics.... Well, the 5000+ k are not even close. I can spot a 5000+ k HID from a mile away, which in the end, looks like PIAA blue bulbs. No decency in them at all IMO. They sacrifice light output from the colour as well, including the fact that they are installed in a non-HID projector. The light result is sometimes worse than stock halogens.
Patrick, great to hear that you are planning on retrofitting an OEM projector into the Integra housing
I sometimes wonder why I haven't done the retrofit sooner -- oh yes, that's right, I didn't have access to HID projectors back then
Here is a video that I have taken from HIDforums.com. Courtesy of dohdoh for the video. It shows the colour changing effect from an OEM HID projector. This is the colour it produces with an OEM 4100k D2S bulb. No stupid 5000+k crap here...
http://www.theklaibers.com/str...1.avi</TD></TR></TABLE>
it might just be the video..but you have a really nice cut off line and the light it produces is an awsome color i'd have to admit, but it seems like you can barely see anything ahead of you....i'm not really satisfied with my bmw bi-xenon retrofit yet because it's not as bright and the cut off line isn't as nice as yours in terms of the color it produces.
i followed skafia's instructions, but his is with an audi's projectors...so i made the 1" spacers also. do you think it's too long? as in do you think that the hid capsule is too far from the lens?
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it might just be the video..but you have a really nice cut off line and the light it produces is an awsome color i'd have to admit, but it seems like you can barely see anything ahead of you....i'm not really satisfied with my bmw bi-xenon retrofit yet because it's not as bright and the cut off line isn't as nice as yours in terms of the color it produces.
i followed skafia's instructions, but his is with an audi's projectors...so i made the 1" spacers also. do you think it's too long? as in do you think that the hid capsule is too far from the lens?
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Anyway, the video isn't mine... it is from a member called dohdoh on HIDforums. His video was shot when the ground was wet, so perhaps that is why you don't see much foreground light. Saying that his HID is not bright is like saying every OEM HID on BMW's, Audi's, etc.. are not bright either.
When you said you spaced the projectors and said if it was too long, did you actually spaced out between the projector lens and the shield??? The projector shouldn't become any longer if you did it like Skafia -- the projector is only moved closer or farther away from the headlight cover. Get back to me on the details... I am thinking that you have actually lengthened the projector and messed up the optics.
it might just be the video..but you have a really nice cut off line and the light it produces is an awsome color i'd have to admit, but it seems like you can barely see anything ahead of you....i'm not really satisfied with my bmw bi-xenon retrofit yet because it's not as bright and the cut off line isn't as nice as yours in terms of the color it produces.
i followed skafia's instructions, but his is with an audi's projectors...so i made the 1" spacers also. do you think it's too long? as in do you think that the hid capsule is too far from the lens?
Anyway, the video isn't mine... it is from a member called dohdoh on HIDforums. His video was shot when the ground was wet, so perhaps that is why you don't see much foreground light. Saying that his HID is not bright is like saying every OEM HID on BMW's, Audi's, etc.. are not bright either.
When you said you spaced the projectors and said if it was too long, did you actually spaced out between the projector lens and the shield??? The projector shouldn't become any longer if you did it like Skafia -- the projector is only moved closer or farther away from the headlight cover. Get back to me on the details... I am thinking that you have actually lengthened the projector and messed up the optics.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Tony the Tiger »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Well, the 5000+ k are not even close. I can spot a 5000+ k HID from a mile away, which in the end, looks like PIAA blue bulbs. No decency in them at all IMO. They sacrifice light output from the colour as well, including the fact that they are installed in a non-HID projector. The light result is sometimes worse than stock halogens.</TD></TR></TABLE>
If you think 5000k-10000k-whatever k looks like a PIAA bulb then, umm yeah. No matter the kelvin temperature you can still depict whether or not the light is HID or a tinted halogen bulb if you know what you're looking for.
Granted it's a colored light, the blue or purple you see from these 5000k+ kits is still a very intense color that couldn't be mistaken for an halogen. Unless you can't tell the difference anyways, in which that case you're better off with tinted halogen bulbs.
You seem to mention 5000k in particular. 5000k lumens aren't too far from 41-300k. Very close actually. So maybe the bashing on this temperature in particular should be kept to a minimum. If you have 5000k NO you're not flossing some "ricer HIDS" The light output remains superior to OEM halogen, with a little color fashion. Oh well, many people want things for their car for cosmetic purposes as well.
The light result from HID is very rarely worse than halogen. The only thing that is worse is the beam pattern in a non-HID housing.. It's all scattered, but if you think about it, that scatteredness was there all along. It's just more pronounced since you have a kit with higher lumens being extracted.
The light needs to be scattered to produce a decent light output for visibility at night with halogen. Just think of the concept of putting a halogen bulb in a HID housing, The beam would be even or whatever, but it would be very dull. Worse than in a halogen housing.
If you think 5000k-10000k-whatever k looks like a PIAA bulb then, umm yeah. No matter the kelvin temperature you can still depict whether or not the light is HID or a tinted halogen bulb if you know what you're looking for.
Granted it's a colored light, the blue or purple you see from these 5000k+ kits is still a very intense color that couldn't be mistaken for an halogen. Unless you can't tell the difference anyways, in which that case you're better off with tinted halogen bulbs.
You seem to mention 5000k in particular. 5000k lumens aren't too far from 41-300k. Very close actually. So maybe the bashing on this temperature in particular should be kept to a minimum. If you have 5000k NO you're not flossing some "ricer HIDS" The light output remains superior to OEM halogen, with a little color fashion. Oh well, many people want things for their car for cosmetic purposes as well.
The light result from HID is very rarely worse than halogen. The only thing that is worse is the beam pattern in a non-HID housing.. It's all scattered, but if you think about it, that scatteredness was there all along. It's just more pronounced since you have a kit with higher lumens being extracted.
The light needs to be scattered to produce a decent light output for visibility at night with halogen. Just think of the concept of putting a halogen bulb in a HID housing, The beam would be even or whatever, but it would be very dull. Worse than in a halogen housing.






