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Old Jan 17, 2004 | 04:02 PM
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Default dc jdm 4-1 header with jimfab bar clearance issue!

i just bought some hasport mounts, to replace the hcp mounts that i have in the crx. i finished intalling the hasport mounts when i realized, that my dc jdm 4-1 header was resting on the jimfab bar. the car is not driveable in this condition, even at idle you can hear the header rattleing on the bar. my question is, has this happened to anyone else? how did you fix it? i'm thinking of either getting a 4-2-1 header, or buying a header tech header! i also noticed that the valve cover is now touching the hood, something that it never did with the hcp mounts! TIA
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Old Jan 17, 2004 | 05:52 PM
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do u have a stock hood cause if you do u need to install and sir hood the sir hood is indented up as opposed to the usdm one which is indented in
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Old Jan 17, 2004 | 05:54 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TiKi &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">do u have a stock hood cause if you do u need to install and sir hood the sir hood is indented up as opposed to the usdm one which is indented in</TD></TR></TABLE>
true, but i think is hitting because the header is getting hung up on the jimfab bar!
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Old Jan 17, 2004 | 09:26 PM
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for the valve cover issue, either take a big hammer to the hood like i did and it will come out looking like your car has a pimple, or just cut out some of the underhood webbing to give you a few more lil inch.
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Old Jan 18, 2004 | 12:25 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by B16_madman &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">for the valve cover issue, either take a big hammer to the hood like i did and it will come out looking like your car has a pimple</TD></TR></TABLE>
i might do the BFH, but i'll check to see how it fits with a 4-2-1 header!
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Old Jan 18, 2004 | 01:33 PM
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i tought that the hasport kit, would push the engine back some!
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Old Jan 19, 2004 | 10:37 PM
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man can you get some pics? cause i have almost the exact setup as you and im about to put on the jdm dc header on my rex. i have a b18c1 in my 91 crx si using hasport mounts and i have a jimfab bar as well.
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Old Jan 20, 2004 | 06:16 AM
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The hood issue is not from the header hitting, it's from the Hasport mounts. If you have a B18 the valve cover will still hit the underside of the hood with the skeleton cut out. My suggestion is to get an SiR style hood from Fiber Images or do the JDM SiR front end conversion. May not be a cheap way, but hey, you have already spent a grip on your car anyway.
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Old Jan 20, 2004 | 07:40 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The hood issue is not from the header hitting, it's from the Hasport mounts. If you have a B18 the valve cover will still hit the underside of the hood with the skeleton cut out. My suggestion is to get an SiR style hood from Fiber Images or do the JDM SiR front end conversion. May not be a cheap way, but hey, you have already spent a grip on your car anyway. </TD></TR></TABLE>

funny, i cut out some of my skeleton and my hood didnt hit with a b18c1 swap using hasport mounts.
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Old Jan 20, 2004 | 04:10 PM
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from what i figured, and hearing some of my friends opinions what's is at fault is the mounts. i did compare all the mounts from hasport, to the hcp and noticed that the tranny mount on the hasport kit moves the tranny forward about 1/4-1/2". the rear mount on the hasport kit, moves the bolt hole for the rear bracket away from the firewall, and up making the engine lean down! what i'll end up doing is, filling my rear hcp mount with 3M polyurathene and selling the hasport kit! i also noticed, that the hasport mount kit also made the car shake so much more than the hcp kit! thank you guys for your opinions
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Old Jan 20, 2004 | 04:36 PM
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What motor do you have? The Hasport mount kit was designed for ground clearence from what I heard...
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Old Jan 20, 2004 | 04:40 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EL Vap133 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">What motor do you have? The Hasport mount kit was designed for ground clearence from what I heard...</TD></TR></TABLE>
that's what i had heard before, but no ground clearance was gained. what the kit did, was raise my engine up wich was good, but it made the engine tilt forward too much(about 1/2 to 3/4"). i'm running a b20z bottomend, with a b16 head!
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Old Jan 20, 2004 | 04:48 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by smokey2.0 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
that's what i had heard before, but no ground clearance was gained. what the kit did, was raise my engine up wich was good, but it made the engine tilt forward too much(about 1/2 to 3/4"). i'm running a b20z bottomend, with a b16 head!</TD></TR></TABLE>

Wow that's weird about the tilting. Ahhh, you got the B20 bottom end, taller block.
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Old Jan 20, 2004 | 04:51 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EL Vap133 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Wow that's weird about the tilting. Ahhh, you got the B20 bottom end, taller block. </TD></TR></TABLE>
but if that was the case, how come it didn't do it with the hcp kit! it rubbed on the front part of the valve cover, by the timing belt!
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Old Jan 20, 2004 | 04:53 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by smokey2.0 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
but if that was the case, how come it didn't do it with the hcp kit! it rubbed on the front part of the valve cover, by the timing belt!</TD></TR></TABLE>

Did you buy the kit new or used?
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Old Jan 20, 2004 | 06:29 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EL Vap133 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Did you buy the kit new or used? </TD></TR></TABLE>
slightly used, it was test fitted in the car. it did not look worn at all, it had very few blemishes on it!
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Old Jan 21, 2004 | 02:57 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EL Vap133 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Wow that's weird about the tilting. Ahhh, you got the B20 bottom end, taller block. </TD></TR></TABLE>

The B20 has the same deckheight as the b18 blocks. The only difference is the bore.
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Old Jan 29, 2004 | 02:01 PM
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back to the issue.... will a JDM DC 4-1 header clear the jimfab bar in a CRX with a b18 swapped using the hasport billet aluminum mounts? im hearing different things from different people.
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Old Jan 29, 2004 | 02:04 PM
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I saw a guy slap a DC 4-1 header into his CRX with the Hasport kit and stock cross member once...
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Old Jan 29, 2004 | 02:05 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by GSRCRXsi1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">back to the issue.... will a JDM DC 4-1 header clear the jimfab bar in a CRX with a b18 swapped using the hasport billet aluminum mounts? im hearing different things from different people.</TD></TR></TABLE>
well, in my case it didn't. i just went back to my old hcp mounts, too bad that the rear mount inserts keep breaking
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Old Jan 29, 2004 | 03:32 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EL Vap133 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I saw a guy slap a DC 4-1 header into his CRX with the Hasport kit and stock cross member once... </TD></TR></TABLE>
it was surely a hacked up stock x member correct?
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Old Jan 30, 2004 | 11:26 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SiR Kid &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

The B20 has the same deckheight as the b18 blocks. The only difference is the bore. </TD></TR></TABLE>

I was just about to tell him the same thing......( without the "hammer" )
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Old Feb 1, 2004 | 04:50 AM
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In the Hasport directions, it tells you to bend down the cross member so the rear mount will clear. This may have effect of your motor being higher up as well?
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Old Feb 1, 2004 | 08:22 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Home Skillet &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">In the Hasport directions, it tells you to bend down the cross member so the rear mount will clear. This may have effect of your motor being higher up as well?</TD></TR></TABLE>
the rear mount is no where near hiting the rear crossmember, since it was massaged using a BFH so in other words, the rear mount is not binding with the crossmember!
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Old Feb 2, 2004 | 05:17 PM
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anyone else have anymore input?
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