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Old Jan 15, 2004 | 10:38 AM
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Old Jan 15, 2004 | 10:42 AM
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these are real spoon wheels..



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Old Jan 15, 2004 | 10:42 AM
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Old Jan 15, 2004 | 10:42 AM
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Old Jan 15, 2004 | 10:43 AM
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i think its possible.........look at the color
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Old Jan 15, 2004 | 10:43 AM
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if so they should say made by desmond in russia on the insides I don't think so - but tough to tell with so many fakies floatin' around. throw them F'ers on a scale too - I think they weigh just above 9lbs (no tire tho )

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Old Jan 15, 2004 | 10:44 AM
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so the holes are the lugs are the way to identify rotas from spoons?

besides being up close that is
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Old Jan 15, 2004 | 10:46 AM
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juding by the color they look real...
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Old Jan 15, 2004 | 10:47 AM
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just judging from the color they look real
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Old Jan 15, 2004 | 10:50 AM
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those are fake man, first the bolt pattern, real spoons hav four or five holes. all them holes are a big giveaway
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Old Jan 15, 2004 | 10:51 AM
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They look like rota slipstreams to me.. Could be wrong though.


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Old Jan 15, 2004 | 10:53 AM
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15 and 16 inch spoons have different holes around the hub.
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Old Jan 15, 2004 | 10:57 AM
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Jesus Christ guys if you don't know, please don't post up bullshit!

Those look real from the pics, but i'll be back with good pics for you to look at to decide for yourself.

BTW:

15'' and 16'' Spoons look completely different around the lug areas...
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Old Jan 15, 2004 | 11:01 AM
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take the wheel off, flip it over and you should see this if they are slipstreams...



real Spoons have a different lip... look at the pic adirondackR posted. it's more "flat".
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Old Jan 15, 2004 | 11:02 AM
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BAM!!!

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Doom_Hatch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I thought the main difference between Spoons and Rotas was that the Spoons were straight 4-lugs with no other holes for fitments. Hmmm, but those spoons have holes... please clarify. </TD></TR></TABLE>

I sell Rotas at my shop and when I got my Spoon SW388 wheels I did side by side comparisons of the wheels.

Aside from the blatantly obvious color differences, there are some other differences you can look for (my pics are at home - I'm at work right now). Rotas are more of a gloss black than the Spoon's very flat anodized finish.

1. "Made in Russia" being stamped in the wheel on the backside of the hub area is the key

2. The lip on the Spoons is thinner than Rotas

3. The edges on the real Spoons will be sharp - Rota's edges are smoother and not as cleanly cut

4. Unless someone took them off, the Spoons should have the Desmond sticker with a Roman looking horse and chariot thing on the insides. Why anyone would remove these, especially with Rotas being passed as Spoons these days is beyond me. I dount anyone with a brain would.

I actually have a pic loaded up on Imagestation of that sticker:



5. Again there should be another JAWA sticker too:



6. the hole for the valvestem will be small as **** on the Spoon wheel. They are so small that normal rubber "pull through" stems won't even come close to fitting. Here's a shot of the Spoon one:



Those are the only good pics I have loaded up. I've got a good one of the "Russia" stamp on the backside too at home on my PC.

Also all I'm doing is saying how to tell them apart. i'm not saying "Rotas suck" or "Spoons rule" i'm just telling you guys some differences aside from the color and weight.
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Old Jan 15, 2004 | 11:03 AM
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They look real. They also have the anodized valve stem, but I guess someone could get those and put them on Rotas.

As someone else said, check the inside of the hub to see the made in Russia stamp.
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Old Jan 15, 2004 | 11:06 AM
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BTW:

If my pics don't show up, it's because of We-Todd and they'll probably show up shortly.
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Old Jan 15, 2004 | 11:09 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by blackspoonem &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">those are fake man, first the bolt pattern, real spoons hav four or five holes. all them holes are a big giveaway</TD></TR></TABLE>

...oh brother...

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Old Jan 15, 2004 | 11:09 AM
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you can't always go by color. if you don't wash the rota's (just spray them with water when washing your car) the finish will look more "flat". i ran into a guy who did this and he fooled me.

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Old Jan 15, 2004 | 11:10 AM
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you cant even tell anymore...they look very similar....little changes....all i gots to say....if it looks good rock it....only all the technical heads will recognize that they are fake.....but that average joe will say look at those spoons...
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Old Jan 15, 2004 | 11:21 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Blazin Si &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">you can't always go by color. if you don't wash the rota's (just spray them with water when washing your car) the finish will look more "flat". i ran into a guy who did this and he fooled me.

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I understand that, that's why I listed the ways to tell them apart and if my pics would show up it'd be even better.

From that pic the finish looks like Spoons. for those guys saying they look fake, I don't see how from those pics. i own the wheels and see them every day and there's nothing obviously wrong with that pic other than you cannot see up close for the little lines on the lip and the lip thickness, valvestem hole size, Desmond sticker, etc.

***EDIT***

The lip does look pretty thin like the Spoons, but again it's hard to say.
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Old Jan 15, 2004 | 11:24 AM
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Finish difference is obvious:

Spoon:



Rota:



Pics courtesy of EGkwazhimoto.

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Old Jan 15, 2004 | 11:39 AM
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besides no sticker being on them.. they look similar enough

besides.. who cares, you're just paying for a name. get rota's just like everyone else and be on with it.
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Old Jan 15, 2004 | 11:44 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 97redex &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">besides.. who cares, you're just paying for a name. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Ofcourse you are, because everyone knows, there is no real difference in the actual wheel. Just different names. Right?
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Old Jan 15, 2004 | 11:54 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Blazin Si &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">you can't always go by color. if you don't wash the rota's (just spray them with water when washing your car) the finish will look more "flat". i ran into a guy who did this and he fooled me.

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all the definate ways to tell them apart have been covered above,so i won't get into that again...but just looking at color is definately not a good way.below is a pic of my Nippon F2s.the color looks almost identical to the real Spoons-it's such a flat black that touching them leaves grease spots from your fingers on them.(sorry pics are so big)

i even added metal valve stems everybody who has seen them has thought they were real(i know that real ones don't come with red stems either,but the riceboys around here aren't that smart).

but,when i look at them next to my Desmond's,the small differences in design are obvious:

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