Stock GSR 0-60 and 1/4 mile time?
stock gsr in the real world runs a 15.4-15.7 1/4 mile
stock gsr in the real world runs a 15.4-15.7 1/4 mile huh? you're joking right? i'm sure that's with the average joe blow driver that granny shifts.
-C
Funny you say that
cause i ran 15.7 proveable with 60 ft (off the top of my head) 2.41. Stock tires
and i also have an unproveable (printer broke) 15.4, stock tires too. I know the time from that run because the guy who pitted next to me told me, i never met him before, but he was nice enough to write it down
I saw mid 15s is a typical GSR time....ocassional low 15s, but there are more low 16s GSRs and drivers than low 15s.
ITRs too, most of the ones i've seen run low 15s, very very high 14s, not mid 14s stock.
Driver is impt, not to mention luck(track, lane wind), somtimes you just have better days.
Oh and i guess "i granny shift and not double clutching like i should" --Fast and the Furious
[Modified by Ricehornet, 8:03 PM 9/27/2001]
cause i ran 15.7 proveable with 60 ft (off the top of my head) 2.41. Stock tires

and i also have an unproveable (printer broke) 15.4, stock tires too. I know the time from that run because the guy who pitted next to me told me, i never met him before, but he was nice enough to write it down
I saw mid 15s is a typical GSR time....ocassional low 15s, but there are more low 16s GSRs and drivers than low 15s.
ITRs too, most of the ones i've seen run low 15s, very very high 14s, not mid 14s stock.
Driver is impt, not to mention luck(track, lane wind), somtimes you just have better days.
Oh and i guess "i granny shift and not double clutching like i should" --Fast and the Furious
[Modified by Ricehornet, 8:03 PM 9/27/2001]
average GS-R should run mid 15's. 0-60 in 7.1s. Around there. Personally, I've ran better times than that when my car was stock. I ran consistent low 15's.
The thing about stock Integra's are that they come out with HORRIBLE tires from the factory. It would have been so much better for them to spend a 100bucks more for better tires, and they would have gotten more sales since the magazine's would test them out and get Better times!
Celica GT-S', Eclipse's, VW's, all come with much better tires than the Integra's do. And some of them have SLIGHTLY faster times, and that would margin off because of the tires. Slap better tires on a stock Teg, and I'd be sure you'd get better launches and better time...
The thing about stock Integra's are that they come out with HORRIBLE tires from the factory. It would have been so much better for them to spend a 100bucks more for better tires, and they would have gotten more sales since the magazine's would test them out and get Better times!
Celica GT-S', Eclipse's, VW's, all come with much better tires than the Integra's do. And some of them have SLIGHTLY faster times, and that would margin off because of the tires. Slap better tires on a stock Teg, and I'd be sure you'd get better launches and better time...
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I feel you guys are right about the GS-R's. But what does an Si get people still think they are faster then GS-R's sometimes. I know preludes are in the comp with GS-R's and not SI's but what do they hit on the QUarter MiLe???
SI's should be fast...but they're not, for some reason. Maybe the car sucks, maybe its the ignorant drivers...but one way or another, they're just not that fast
I feel you guys are right about the GS-R's. But what does an Si get people still think they are faster then GS-R's sometimes. I know preludes are in the comp with GS-R's and not SI's but what do they hit on the QUarter MiLe???
-C
and to add, in a typical 1/4 race, 0.2s is considered half a car. So an Si that runs half a second slower to a GS-R would be 2 1/2 car lengths back. That seems about right. It's funny how Si's and GS-R's are close in the magazines, yet in the real world and on the track, the Si's run much slower than the GS-R's...
Preludes and GS-R's are very close both in magazines and in the real world given my experience with them. Si's are much closer to Del Sol Vtecs.
Preludes and GS-R's are very close both in magazines and in the real world given my experience with them. Si's are much closer to Del Sol Vtecs.
"i granny shift and not double clutching like i should" --Fast and the Furious
[Modified by Ricehornet, 8:03 PM 9/27/2001]
[Modified by Ricehornet, 8:03 PM 9/27/2001]
It has been known that girl's are just faster on clutches... maybe because they are better stick handlers
j/k anyhow I have decent tires on my 95' gsr I ran a 15.3 the first day I had it.. a month or so ago. swapped out from a 96 gti to a 95' integra still have my gti though I can never sell that car
acura is a much nicer car and the tranny feels better but I dunno about how much abuse it can handle my gti was a glutton for abuse.
j/k anyhow I have decent tires on my 95' gsr I ran a 15.3 the first day I had it.. a month or so ago. swapped out from a 96 gti to a 95' integra still have my gti though I can never sell that car
acura is a much nicer car and the tranny feels better but I dunno about how much abuse it can handle my gti was a glutton for abuse.
As was said already (but I choose to emphasize because alot of people don't give it enough thought), location plays a big role as well. These small 1.6 and 1.8L motors are far more affected by high heat and humidity than a larger motor. This is in no small part why times at Moroso are typically a couple ticks slower than alot of others quote. Best I ran in my '93 GS-R (stock, 140k miles, burning a little oil in #4) was a 15.607 with a bad.. I mean BAD clutch. Colder weather and a clutch with some grip and 15.3-15.4 would have been no problem whatsoever. I also find that 2G GS-R's tend to run dead even with 3G GS-R's. Perhaps it's the weight, dunno, but all the 3G's I race it's usually dead even. Si's, well they're definatley a couple ticks slower. The typical Si I see at Moroso pulls a 15.9-16.3 with I/H/E, but I actually attribute this to the plethora of idiots who own them for the color or the cool "DOHC VTEC" stickers. I have seen a couple pull some mid 15's either stock or with just an intake, but those have been few and far between.
So if I have an LS that runs 15.9 (what I've heard a good LS will run) in the 1/4 and raced a gsr that ran 15.5 then my front bumber would have been right at his back bumper?? I don't go to races and didn't know the .2 = 1/2 car rule in the 1/4 so does this sound right? 1 car over a 1/4 mile doesn't sound like a big lead. And from what you are saying my car would beat an SI. Correct?
Sounds like you should be dead even with an avg. Si at the track. Now remember, highway is a little different. You pull up next to that Si on the freeway where he's already at speed, and all he has to do is drop is 2 gears and he's deep in VTEC and he will pull on you. Si's are loads of top end, but are a nutless wonder under 5.5k, so your best bet is to keep it as short a distance as possible and use your low end torque as best you can.
VTC_CiViC, I do realize this great advantage vtec gives at higher speeds. I feel that from a stand still I should be able to keep a closer gap than at a higher speed start. From a stand still my car pulls pretty hard but in 3rd gear it is slow at least at first when I shift from 2nd to 3rd. I know that they would pull pretty hard at that point...I've never raced an SI but had alway thought they too were faster than an LS 5speed like mine...I guess from a stand still their not but on the freeway they are...cool...have a good one!
I abused a G2 teg and the gearbox lasted 145K.
Yes, double clutching will save your synchros when downshifting as it gets the gears up to the speed of the engine,
something that doesn't happen with the clutch in b/c the gears have been disconnected from receiving any power.
Yes, double clutching will save your synchros when downshifting as it gets the gears up to the speed of the engine,
something that doesn't happen with the clutch in b/c the gears have been disconnected from receiving any power.
hmm..my friend with a 95 gsr w/ i/e ran consistent 14.7s all day long. i dunno if this is true or not but 94 and 95 gsrs are usually faster than 96 and up ones.
I heard about the 94 gs-r having a bigger throttle body but I researched that the 2000 and on gs-r's have 172 hp because of the resanators and the OBD2 things forced acura to add a couple more hp to make it a bit faster.



