How did you set up the pre load on your coilovers? I generally was under the idea of just enough tension to keep the spring from being lose. Does anyone actually put any pre load on it allready and how did you decide how much on the initial set up. I'm guessing it will take me lots of track testing.

 

Have the car corner weighted.

 

If he's talking about shocks with independent height and preload, corner weighting and preload should be unrelated issues.

 

Hmm... but wouldnt preloading the springs affect static corner weights?

 

I'm running Apexi N1 pros, so the height and the preload is independent of each other. I am going to have the car corner weighted, but that is just adjusted with the height of the car.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by .RJ &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Hmm... but wouldnt preloading the springs affect static corner weights?</TD></TR></TABLE>

I suppose it would if it resulted in a ride-height change. I have no clue what the purpose of preload is with a linear spring and independent adjustments.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by .RJ &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Have the car corner weighted.</TD></TR></TABLE>


this has nothing to do with preload.....corner weighted is just that....putting equal load on an X axis....

preload....putting tension on the springs before compression

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by .RJ &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Hmm... but wouldnt preloading the springs affect static corner weights?</TD></TR></TABLE>


no....kinda....but not with a coilover system that allows preload and height adjustability....ie buddy clubs, zeal, tein

 

chad, how would you recommend starting to set them up? Spring rates as of right now are 16K front and 7K rear also.

 

would you want to align the car before or after having it corner weighted?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by smokin rubber &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">would you want to align the car before or after having it corner weighted?</TD></TR></TABLE>

after it is corner weighted. When you corner weight it you are going to change the ride height which wuld change your camber, so it would change you alignment.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DMF &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">chad, how would you recommend starting to set them up? Spring rates as of right now are 16K front and 7K rear also.</TD></TR></TABLE>

i do not know...have not played with a delslow....

 

D<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by smokin rubber &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">would you want to align the car before or after having it corner weighted?</TD></TR></TABLE>

During, Ride height, camber, and caster all effect corner weights.

Also, When you preload your springs, aren't you just limiting droop?

 

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preload your springs
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Why?
Whats the point?

 

Been wondering about this also and previously made a post about it but didn't get any real replies.

I thought it would be beneficial if I added some preload to the shock so that I could regain some additional shock travel. Anyone?

 

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Also, When you preload your springs, aren't you just limiting droop?</TD></TR></TABLE>

yep.

the concept of droop eludes most people here though...

 

i dont see how preload limits droop. i do it, but my coilovers arent seperate height and preload so anything above .5 inches from the lowest setting preloads my springs.

anyhow anyone know what the purpose of spring preload is? maybe its to make sure the spring stay seated without the use of helper springs. hahaah no, for real tho whats it for?

 

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Being able to say what it is, and being able to give an intelligent answer why you want to alter it are two entirely different issues.
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so true , it is hard to give an explanation using no visual aids and simply typing out words

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I mean... the people are lining up to buy these great and wonderful JDM shocks. You'd think there's be hundreds of people who could explain this... </TD></TR></TABLE>

you would think , but I think some people actually buy stuff without even knowing how/what it does , imagine that

 

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=247965

Scott, who has no idea what some of you are talking about with all this "droop" travel verbiage...you're very mixed up.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RR98ITR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Scott, who has no idea what some of you are talking about with all this "droop" travel verbiage...you're very mixed up.</TD></TR></TABLE>

are you talking to me ?

I am not the mixed up one.

 

I don't think so.

You must have me mixed up with somebody else.

Scott, who thinks the only reason to discuss "droop" travel and damper length in the same thread is because you want to employ droop limiting as a weight transfer device (switch actually). Crashing the a-arm or tire into the inner fender seems to high a price. Use a cable or rod like the smart cave people.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RR98ITR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I don't think so.
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ok , just checking.

I'm fully aware of these terms we are speaking of

 

I wish I was "fully aware".

Scott, who is only partially aware of the scope of his awareness...if that...

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RR98ITR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I wish I was "fully aware".

Scott, who is only partially aware of the scope of his awareness...if that...</TD></TR></TABLE>

ok , ok

"somewhat aware"

 

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ok , ok

"somewhat aware"

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well enlighten us little ones then please...