Just curious, Its something Ive been looking into... I might persuae a few people and or companies into a possible mount kit for it if there is enough interested consumers out there...

Let me know what you guys think???

 

Have you even made sure that you can mount a K series tranny into a Prelude body style w/o huge amount of modification? As the new K series spins the wrong way for the stock tranny. Plus, as of yet, there has been very little aftermarket support for the K24, the K20 is where all the attention is going toward.

 

very bad idea

 

hmmm interesting

 

I think it is a great idea

 

Not when you consider that 4k+ might get the entire swap done, and end up with the same amount of power, or you could build up the existing stock motor and run 200+ whp. I'd go with the latter personally.

 

Sounds like a gay idea....

Most of the swaps go into cars that have less displacement than a bottle of coke. The added displacement makes a huge difference.

In preludes, we already have 2.2's and 2.3's, so the cost for the extra HP would not be justifiable.

 

Im still trying to figure out how to put a VQ35DE into my lude....

 

I think its a good thing, because it might weigh less then the h22 and the power already just strapped in gets 170whp and 150tq. Thats about the same power as our cars but im sure with i/h/e and re flash will net around 200-210whp and 160-170tq.

 

Doesn't the v6 oly come with an auto tranny?

 

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Actually for like the last year or 2 they have been making the accords with 6speed trannies.

 

The K24 Hybrid motors will be making over 300WHP soon and with 2.3 displacement is destroked high r/s ratio high reving form this would be something some people may want to consider. For those who said it was a bad isea since the motor spins the wrong way... There are several K series swaps in civics and integras right now with less room in the engine bay so for a K into a prelude I think it would be a pretty easy affair

K, next topic... V6...

Im pretty sure the V6 can nestle its way into a prelude engine bay. The 201 accord V6 chassis as very similar to the 97-01 prelude chassis... I see no reason as to why this wouldnt work...

240 HP stock, a ton of torque, 6 speed tranny...

Just ideas... Keep the thoughts, ideas and suggestions coming...

 

insofar as the V6 is concerned, having some engine/tranny weights might be helpful to have on hand, being that making a prelude even MORE front heavy probably isn't appealing to some...

 

arent 5th gens really heavy??

 

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oh yeah, you should wait for the JDM VQ35deTT, and the new engine mount kit from MUGSMO hehe

 

I don't want to mess up this thread but i have to state my opinion. First off, i think it would be very hard to get a K series block to bolt up to a 4th or 5th gen Prelude. If it could be done, with the right hardware, it would be bad a$$. Second, you could take the new CRV block, K24, and throw on a RSX Type-S head, Giveing you a 2.4 i-Vtec motor. I think you could see over 250whp. Not going to say if its going to be reliable but take the good with the bad.

 

i think it would be an awesome idea

As long as it was practical and not $$$$

a k20/k24 frankinstein on a prelude would be a monster!

 

Ive always heard it would be way more trouble than its worth due mostly to all those motors spinning the opposite way. But hell my father has a brand new 4 cylinder accord, even with that motor the lude would ******* fly, 2.3 I-vtec yummy

I cant wait till the day the lude can be a 13 sec car with a jdm motor swap

 

I don't see what the big deal is, sure the K-series is nice, but the H22 is still just as good in my book if you build it right.

 

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its funny that you mention this, i thick it would be sweet to shoehorn a v6 in there, i mean as long as we can get a 6 speed tranny on there it would be nice. im actually kinda surprised that no one had mentioned this in a while, don't the accord and prelude share many many things in common, i mean im not so sure about the v6 motor mounts, but i don't think it would be too hard and would be nice

as for the k series, they are just so damn expensive . but i think if i was going to buy a k series engine i would want the nastiest setup posible, becasue what people ae saying is true, for the money that a swap costs, you can decently build your motor and boost over the hp you would gain from a swap, or just build the crap out of the stock motor for n/a

i guess i would do a v6 if anything at all

 

First off the Accord V6 doesn't have a manual tranny unless there's one coming in from another country as it's not available here to not compete against the RSX and TSX. Plus with the V6 engine you'll have to do some body work underneath to plumb both headers to the collector while moving the engine forward in the bay to accomidate the larger V6. Only bad things come of that, bad handling by moving the weight even further forward of the front suspension points, more weight in the nose... overall a very bad idea. As it's not good for handling, nor drag racing.

The reason why the K20 swap is going well into the older generation Civics is this... It's becoming a plug and play B20 VTEC w/o the hassle of building one. It's as simple as that. For those who know, the B20 VTEC has just as much potential for power as the K20 does BUT you have to build it from "spare parts." The K20 swap is for those people who have money but don't know about cars or engines and see "ooohh, I-VTEC". You can swap B20 for much cheaper than you can swap a K20 and get the same amount of power. Plus the majority of those swaps are probably also coming from those without the B16 VTEC head. All they really want to do is throw money at it and be done with it.

It's the same deal with the K24/H22. The power potential is basicly the same between the two engines as the WC Accords were pushing 280+ easily and w/o the WC restrictions they'll make the same power that you're claiming for the K24. Sure the K24 is nicer from the factory with a better flowing head, slightly ligher, .5 more compression, I-VTEC, and probably a better intake manifold but other than that they're virtually the same. If you took $8k and threw it at both engines I doubt that you'd see a huge difference between the two except the fact the H22 doesn't have to buy a tranny, misc driveshaft parts, possible new sensors, and everything else involved in the swap. As all the benifits of the K24 are wiped out once you spend $4k as those parts are either ported or replaced.


Modified by TimeRacer at 8:22 PM 12/4/2003

 

I am one of those people that say ooh I-vtec, and the thread title stated preludes, b16, and b20 dont have **** to do with 5th gen preludes, but yes I would agree the h22 has great potential, but I would like to have a stock jdm motor that reliably(with little maintanance(sp)_) put my car into atleast low 14 1/4 and had a tranny to hold it. I think the v6 and k24 is unrealistic as of now because ive never seen it done or heard of on a lude.

 

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i know a dude that lives around here that is running 19 PSI on his RSX-S right now,(he rarely posts here but is always on club rsx.) completely stock internals and is netting 401 WHP. at 25 PSI he blew the turbo manifold and the engine was fine. the K series is a very strong motor.

bolivian fuego (sp) probably saw him at WWIII (MIR - maryland internation raceway) a few weeks ago. silver RSX-S. bad *** car.

 

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Wrong, 03+ Accord V6 coupe comes with 6MT also.