Well here is what im doin:

d16z6 block and head

Block:
zc pistons (p29) Brings compresison to 12.03:1 with 3 layer headgasket (y8 metal gasket) All new bearings rings, timing belt, seals etc

Head: Zex valve springs,
crower retainers
Stage 2 cam,
Y8 intake manifold,
gsr throttle body,
skunk2 cam gear
B&M fuel pressure reg

Other thigns:
Act prolite flywheel (~8.2lbs)
centerforce dual friction clutch
cx crank pulley
Crx converted to obd1 runnign p28 and custom chipped ecu for all motor
Dc headers
Aem cai


Just wondering if anyone out there has had a simlar set up as what mine will be here in a few weeks after i put it all together.

Tryin to get an idea of whp.

Im hoping for atleast 135 whp. Even tho my goal is 150 i doubt i will get close to it.


For Compression Type in
Bore - 75
Stroke - 90mm
Combustion chamber volume - 34.6
Piston dome - +7.2
Head gasket thickness - .037
Piston-to-deck height - .040



Modified by screamincivik at 1:02 AM 11/18/2003

 

I love seeing this kind of stuff! Way to be different! Although I don't have any experience with all motor d-series setups (I'm a turbo d-series guy myself ) I wouldn't think that your goal of 150 is outlandish or anything like that. I think it could be very possible. How much money do you think you'll have into everything though? I ask because I think this is the determining factor on whether or not we'll start seeing more all motor buildups with d series motors. Good luck!

 

not bad
i did 121 whp with just intake headers and exhaust on my old D16Z6
now that i have cam gear, comp stage 2 cam, Y8 intake manifold, fully rebuild block, and air fuel tunning i hope to get into 142 ish
the cam by itself manufacturer claims 14 whp gain on stock configuration and more on tap mild mofified motors
so i say u are not going to be too far

 

well it was more then i thought it would be. Prolly not toooooooo much over 1500 all together. But i converted to obd1 which isnt that cheap either. Could prolly do it all around 1500 bucks. I had a spare z6 that needed a rebuild so i decided why not. Got alot of bearings and gasket and what not from hondaautomotiveparts and hondapartspeople for oem honda stuff.

I was turbo before all this and sold the kit to begin the build up. So i been down that road already. Turbo wasnt for me really...i liked it an all but everyone takes that route , i just want to be different pretety much.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by USDM 4G VTEC &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">not bad
i did 121 whp with just intake headers and exhaust on my old D16Z6
now that i have cam gear, comp stage 2 cam, Y8 intake manifold, fully rebuild block, and air fuel tunning i hope to get into 142 ish
the cam by itself manufacturer claims 14 whp gain on stock configuration and more on tap mild mofified motors
so i say u are not going to be too far</TD></TR></TABLE>


well knowing you got that much power just from that gives me more hope! and i plan on tuning it sooner or later..proly not til sprign becsaue im not driving this car in the winter...michigan sucks!!!

 

Sounds like you'll have a very solid motor to play with. Keep us updated with your project, as there are probably more than a few of us interested in the outcome of your motor. Good luck

 

That sounds almost identical to the setup I'm planning. I'm planning on running the z6 manifold and a little juice though.

 

any other imput?

 

hmmmm....135-150 whp on that setup is possible. what kind of engine management are you planning to use with that setup? you'll have to use like 91 octane and above to avoid detonation issues. that's actually a nice 'sleeper' setup...you can always tell 'em it's a stock SOHC
good luck with the build up and please post dyno sheets when finished

 

What is the difference between y8 manifold and the z6 one?
And I think you can get 150 with that setup if not youll be over 135 for sure.

 

Y8 has more direct straighter plenums. And props for something different. I love NA D series it definetly takes some *****.

 

thanks guys...for engine management im using a chipped p28 with a custom all motor program for d series. I had a guy with a wideband and similar setup construct a program for me. Im hoping this will work for now, later i will do some tuning with the cam and hope for some better numbers

 

hey, im putting together a A6 block with 89 integra rods and pistons, thinking about using a z6 head but not sure, well good luck with your setup!

 

Sounds great, i'm running a P28 on my D16Y8 and so far it's all stock but i definitely want to go all motor. Let me know how that custom program works for you and if your friend would want to reprogram my P28 Good luck on everything, keep us updated!

Vince

 

Im heading the same route that your heading. z6 with teg pistons, exospeed cams, crower springs and retainers, and a full p&p and much more, hoping for 150-155

Also running ghettodyne Na setup, ghetto isnt it


Modified by phatrick2332 at 8:52 AM 11/4/2003

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SOHCV-TechRider &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">What is the difference between y8 manifold and the z6 one?
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heres a link to my album with pics of both!
http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=4288677547

 

a z6 longblock with a6 pistons nets about a 10.7:1 compression ratio, and with pm7 pistons, you're correct, its around 14.1:1.

also, the y8 manifold doesnt have shorter runners, it simply has a larger plenum. the runners on a y8 are actually a little bit longer than on the z6.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 91civicDXdude &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">a z6 longblock with a6 pistons nets about a 10.7:1 compression ratio, and with pm7 pistons, you're correct, its around 14.1:1.

also, the y8 manifold doesnt have shorter runners, it simply has a larger plenum. the runners on a y8 are actually a little bit longer than on the z6.</TD></TR></TABLE>

yeah i was rounding up to 11:1 because the head will be milled to ensure flatness...could bump it a lil. The thing was i bought the pm7 pistons from someone and then the a6 pistons showed up...at the time i was a lil upset i got the wrong ones but in the same sense i was happy because 14:1 is too high for daily driving and i dont need my valves crashing into that dome. so it all worked out

 

wow- nice setup. great choice of build. like you said, its diff.

 

thanks yeah im just hoping for a decent quick set up to get me around.

 

Screamincivik - did you find any pistons that would give you compression numbers of around 12:1? or were your options either 11:1 or 14:1 with the a6 and pm7 pistons. I'll be doing similar build-up as well

 

Same setup here...but using pm7 pistons...hoping for 13's ALLMOTOR after the build.....

anyone know's why the pm7 pistons make higher compression in a dseries then the orignal zc motor??? stroke?? crank?? i mean there all 1.6 but what makes the compression different!?????

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by AgentJam &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Screamincivik - did you find any pistons that would give you compression numbers of around 12:1? or were your options either 11:1 or 14:1 with the a6 and pm7 pistons. I'll be doing similar build-up as well </TD></TR></TABLE>

dx pistons will give you that compression ratio. I just had the a6 pistons readly available so im using them. I heard a few stories about the zc pistons and that high of compression where you get alot of valve ting from knocking into the piston. So i really didnt wnat to go that path. Id rather be safe then sorry on this build up. After i get this runnign im gonna build the exisiting a6 for another all motor non vtec longblock. Im just hoping it runs good with no codes, leaks or bad anything

 

im building a d series with pm6 pistons.. the differences are that i'll be using a y8 block, z6 head, pm6 pistons, and a turbo.. mmmm 9.9:1 compression for turbo is nice if you ask me.

 

cool...isnt that kinda high for turbo? im not a turbo guyreally. But the stock z6 is like 9.2:1 so thats still higher. But who cares, building them is the fun part