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Old Oct 9, 2003 | 12:05 AM
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i am hoping someone knows anything about these, search yielded nothing.

i am researching itbs and i so far i have decided that the twms are not really for me but the todas are overpiced and it's hard to come by a used set, the jenveys seem to be the perfect medium...

anyway i am curious if injectors are included, if the fuel mixes before or after the butterfies? how much custom fab, if any, do i need to run vaccum lines and brake booster line? i assume a seperate vaccum tank is needed. and are there manifolds/covers for these units or does that have to be done custom as well?

i will contact hayward performance soon, but i am hoping for some info first, its a longshot though. thanks
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Old Oct 9, 2003 | 12:04 PM
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anyone?
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Old Oct 9, 2003 | 12:40 PM
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I have never heard of anyone using those. I personally just reference their website for some itb info.
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Old Oct 9, 2003 | 12:54 PM
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christian uses them, i messaged him today so hopefully i can learn something. they look very high quaity imho.
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Old Oct 9, 2003 | 12:58 PM
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whats the website addy?
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Old Oct 9, 2003 | 01:21 PM
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Jenvy ITB's = Hayward Performance ITB's... Hayward Performance is their US distributor.

http://www.haywardperformance.com

Prices are way up there for honda kits and he doesnt really like selling them piece by piece so when you buy the ITB's and linkage kits alone he kinda runs the pricing up alot.

If you guys can be patient I know of a sertain company that is working on an affordable ITB set up that should be ready to go in the next 3 months or so... Its in the prototype and development stages right now but things are coming along nicely

IM's, Tapered TB's anywhere from 65-90mm, CAI's...

just be patient, its all coming soon
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Old Oct 9, 2003 | 01:21 PM
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Nice, maybe he can help this fella.

http://www.jenvey.co.uk/

Edit: ^^ Their UK site
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Old Oct 9, 2003 | 01:37 PM
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anyway i am curious if injectors are included not sure but I doubt it

if the fuel mixes before or after the butterfies? after but very close to the axis of the butterfly if you look at the pics closely

how much custom fab, if any, do i need to run vaccum lines and brake booster line? i assume a seperate vaccum tank is needed. not much, looks like they have it set up nicely in the aluminum canister in their pics

and are there manifolds/covers for these units or does that have to be done custom as well? not thru them AFIK but there are covers available out there

The JENVEY stuff sure looks promising and price is the only thing that would make me choose them over the other options... but I seem to remember someone like CHEETAH saying the quality was not nearly as nice as TODA (truly made for the Honda B-series specifically, well after the Toyota and Mazda setups were done too)
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Old Dec 26, 2003 | 10:39 AM
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they also use Bosh or Rochester injectors, so you need to find clips to plug them in.
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Old Dec 26, 2003 | 11:10 AM
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You can configure the Jenvey ITB's to what ever you want from throttle bore size (40mm-52mm), tapered bore or straight bore,0,1,or2 injectors , spacers to move the bodies out or diff length air hornes ( alum. or carbon) we have used stock,RC,Bosch, and Pico injectors. They do not have a 1 fits all system, get it built to your needs, and yes I am a direct dealer and they are the best system and the best buy for the money.
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Old Dec 26, 2003 | 01:44 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DonF &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You can configure the Jenvey ITB's to what ever you want from throttle bore size (40mm-52mm), tapered bore or straight bore,0,1,or2 injectors , spacers to move the bodies out or diff length air hornes ( alum. or carbon) we have used stock,RC,Bosch, and Pico injectors. They do not have a 1 fits all system, get it built to your needs, and yes I am a direct dealer and they are the best system and the best buy for the money.</TD></TR></TABLE>

thanx, how could i costumize them to the stock injectors? do i have to machine each single injector hole?

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Old Dec 26, 2003 | 05:31 PM
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You may use stock injectors with the correct "o" ring and you specify how many injector bosses you want machined, 0,1,or2 per intake runner.
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Old Dec 27, 2003 | 03:06 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DonF &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You may use stock injectors with the correct "o" ring and you specify how many injector bosses you want machined, 0,1,or2 per intake runner.</TD></TR></TABLE>

sorry for the bad english but what "injector bosses" means?

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Old Dec 28, 2003 | 01:03 PM
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The inj. bosses are the raised area that are machined to take an injector, you can have them on the top or bottom of the throttle housing, or added to the alum. air horns or any combinations if you are running multiple injectors per cylinder. Some race systems use an injector close to the head at low RPM's for idle quality and smoother running then switch to an injector further upstream in the intake tract at a higher RPM to increase fuel atomization
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Old Dec 28, 2003 | 08:38 PM
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what about the fuel rail, does it have to be customized also?

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Old Dec 29, 2003 | 08:55 AM
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Yes, the fuel rail and fuel rail mounts are made to go with the way you configure the system and what injector you are going to use. The point being you design the system to eng. size, eng. modifications and what you are going to use the car for street, road racing, or drag racing because all those applications require a different setup.
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Old Dec 29, 2003 | 09:37 AM
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hayward performance should be able to supply all the components for the itb system. including tps and vacuum canister.
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Old Dec 29, 2003 | 10:35 AM
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thanx for the info



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Old Jan 8, 2004 | 08:27 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by owen_the_soyboy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">anyway i am curious if injectors are included not sure but I doubt it

if the fuel mixes before or after the butterfies? after but very close to the axis of the butterfly if you look at the pics closely

how much custom fab, if any, do i need to run vaccum lines and brake booster line? i assume a seperate vaccum tank is needed. not much, looks like they have it set up nicely in the aluminum canister in their pics

and are there manifolds/covers for these units or does that have to be done custom as well? not thru them AFIK but there are covers available out there

The JENVEY stuff sure looks promising and price is the only thing that would make me choose them over the other options... but I seem to remember someone like CHEETAH saying the quality was not nearly as nice as TODA (truly made for the Honda B-series specifically, well after the Toyota and Mazda setups were done too)</TD></TR></TABLE>

todas are rebuild AE101 toyotas my friend, same **** as A sports ITBS, except A sports are about A G cheeper, if anyone wants em, PM me.
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Old Jan 9, 2004 | 01:11 PM
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the todas are the actual toyota itb with a cast manifold to fit the bseries head. the manifold is whats considered custom.

i did not know a-sports manufactured this too. pics, pricing?
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Old Jan 9, 2004 | 01:36 PM
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anybody know a web site for these a sports throttle boddies?
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Old Jan 9, 2004 | 08:20 PM
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contact me and i get send you all info and get you a set if you would like, there are extremely quality and not very different from toda at all.
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Old Jan 15, 2004 | 09:20 PM
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Jenvey are by far a better product than the others mentioned above. Yes, Todas are simply modified Toyota parts. Hayward Performance has done a first rate job in assembling all the components needed to work with this (Jenvey) set-up. It's truly a work of art. We are running this system on our GTU CRX on a B18C5 and wouldn't think of running anything else.
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Old Jan 16, 2004 | 06:42 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by owen_the_soyboy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">anyway i am curious if injectors are included not sure but I doubt it

if the fuel mixes before or after the butterfies? after but very close to the axis of the butterfly if you look at the pics closely

how much custom fab, if any, do i need to run vaccum lines and brake booster line? i assume a seperate vaccum tank is needed. not much, looks like they have it set up nicely in the aluminum canister in their pics

and are there manifolds/covers for these units or does that have to be done custom as well? not thru them AFIK but there are covers available out there

The JENVEY stuff sure looks promising and price is the only thing that would make me choose them over the other options... but I seem to remember someone like CHEETAH saying the quality was not nearly as nice as TODA (truly made for the Honda B-series specifically, well after the Toyota and Mazda setups were done too)</TD></TR></TABLE>
No the injectors are not included with the Jenvey's as per Lance Haywards suggestion I went with 42lb/hr Bosch type injectors = ~440cc injectors

Correct the fuel mixes immediately after the butterflies

Lance custom-made a vacumn canister for my ITB's, it has worked fabulously and looks very nice too boot.

The Jenvey's are by far a much better solution than the the Toda's from a functional and customizable standpoint. As far as build-quality the Toda's sure are pretty but are they made for any particular Honda setup? Not really, as previously stated, they are a modified Toyota setup. Does that make them bad... Not at all. I was about to get the Toda's until Steve Sakai made me look into Jenvey's. Thanks, Steve!! The Jenvey or Haywards solution can be customized to fit my particular setup. And the Toda's were just too small and I couldn't make any changes.

Modified by Christian at 10:53 AM 1/16/2004


Modified by Christian at 10:59 AM 1/16/2004
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Old Jan 16, 2004 | 08:15 AM
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Here's the Jenvey kit:



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