which would be better in a 96 coupe? should i go with the higher HP lower TQ of the b16 or Lower HP higher TQ of the b18? i need something reliable so eather motor will be NA until i finish school.

 

if you are talking about the JDM B16a then I would say that I would not dare consider life w/o VTEC. I have not driven a swap w/ a b18b so I cannot say one is better than the other. I have the jdm b16a and it is fun as hel.

 

what are your plans for the motor? if you are planning to just do simple bolt ons, id go for the B16. if youre planning forced induction, go for the B18

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 2camsaam &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">if you are talking about the JDM B16a then I would say that I would not dare consider life w/o VTEC. I have not driven a swap w/ a b18b so I cannot say one is better than the other. I have the jdm b16a and it is fun as hel.</TD></TR></TABLE>

come on...u know ur b16 has no torque

Seriously, i had a b16 in a crx and it still was sub par torque wise. I have driven a b18 swap and it is much better for city driving. I would suggest, a b18 or b20 with b16 tranny. That way you could later add a vtec head and completely destroy any b16 toating civics out there (n/a of course)

 

yeah if i got the b18b i want to get the b16 tranny. And like i said i want to stay NA until i get out of school because i drive like 80-100 miles a day during the week back and forth.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Kidrocket &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">what are your plans for the motor? if you are planning to just do simple bolt ons, id go for the B16. if youre planning forced induction, go for the B18</TD></TR></TABLE>
i agree- i/h/e on a b16a should net you around 150 or so whp. plus the b16 should take better to mods b/c of the vtec. but if you are gonna boost in the future- b18b turbo's are bad a$$

 

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i agree- i/h/e on a b16a should net you around 150 or so whp. plus the b16 should take better to mods b/c of the vtec. but if you are gonna boost in the future- b18b turbo's are bad a$$</TD></TR></TABLE>
i hate it when ppl talk about how the b18b is way better for boost. people just say that cuz its lower compression. b16 turbo will beat a b18b turbo, stock for stock. sure you can give a b18b more boost cuz its lower compression, but then reiability is more of an issue than it was before. just like u can add boost to a b16. it all depends on how much u wanna built it to handle boost...

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jlamaster &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yeah if i got the b18b i want to get the b16 tranny. And like i said i want to stay NA until i get out of school because i drive like 80-100 miles a day during the week back and forth. </TD></TR></TABLE>
b16a's with bolt-ons beat b18bs with an itr tranny and bolt-ons. i seen it

 

either way i wouldn't be satisfied with th tq of the b16. if your planning on boost'n it in the future I would go with the b18b. if your going to stay NA y not a b18c or a b20v-tec? is the added money a issue because of school? if it is I completely understand...

 

yeah cost is a major factor. Which of the two motors would provide more usable power on the street?

 

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b16&lt;b18b&lt;b18c&lt;b20v-tec

there are a lot of options for you. you could also consider a LS-V-tec. you just more have to decide what the plans for the future are. if you are for sure going to boost it, just pick up the b18b. if you want to stay NA get the b18c. if you or your buddy's know how to build a hybrid b20-v-tec (im not try'n to question your knowledge) go with that.

personally, i would go with the b18c gs-R, they run about $3100 if im not mistaken

 

yup just like everyone's opinion..depends on what your gonna do later on in the future..but from my experience id go with the b18b

 

go b18b i have never lossed to a car with a b16 swap and all i have is intake and exhaust b16's are weaksauce. I drive my friends b16 but you have to rev tha **** outta it to make any power.

 

torque isnt a factor if you wanna go forced induction.

and if you do intend of going F/I i suggest the b16.

you know why? BEE-TAK (vtec) 0wnZ j00

 

If you're planning on daily driving it for a while, get the B18B with the normal LS tranny and drive it until you can give her some down time. Once that happens, you can go LS/VTEC or a better tranny or a turbo or whatever. I might even suggest a B20 block if that were the case.

 

check sig

 

b20 vtec that sounds like a plan to me!

 

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LIAR!!

 

i say do the b16 swap now, then later down the road get a b20 block or a b18c block

sounds like a good idea to me

 

b16+tubro=happy, good for street/strip, there is alot of power hidden in b16s, that is after stock boost of course.

 

here's a major issue (because you're in school)... b18b=$750-$1000 (USDM) b16a=$2600+ (JDM)... or, if you have 2k to toss into this, why not go to a junkyard and pick up a wrecked LS, get the rear disc brake conversion, rear suspension, and the armrest ( ) on top of the engine for less than the b16... and u can take that extra $ and put it into an intake, exhaust, header, whatever to add more power.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jonesin4abeer &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">here's a major issue (because you're in school)... b18b=$750-$1000 (USDM) b16a=$2600+ (JDM)... or, if you have 2k to toss into this, why not go to a junkyard and pick up a wrecked LS, get the rear disc brake conversion, rear suspension, and the armrest ( ) on top of the engine for less than the b16... and u can take that extra $ and put it into an intake, exhaust, header, whatever to add more power.</TD></TR></TABLE>
ya right!!! try 1600-2000 for a second gen b16

 

**** i would never trade my ls swap for a b16. that is unless that b16 is stroked to be a 1.8. b16's do make a lot of hp...but make **** for torque. hell, they can hardly pull the ek's that they reside in!! the fact is, give an ls the C1 tranny and watch it walk all over the b16. it's torque that gets you from one end to the other in a quicker time....not horsepower. i'm speaking from experiences i've had...all motor and turbo'd. the only reason why b18a/b's suck out of the box is because of that 3rd gear that drops the power band a considerable amount...that is why myself and many other people have chosen the B18c1's tranny. it's not ridiculously short like the b16's tranny nor as long as the ls's tranny.

 

My B16A is fine for daily driving. The whopping 10 lb/ft difference is barely noticable. IMHO B16's are more fun, faster, and a better swap than a B18B stock for stock.

 

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ya right!!! try 1600-2000 for a second gen b16 </TD></TR></TABLE>

i wish... show me where and I may even consider getting one....
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