[EDIT] It was 21 days after the purchase that I wanted the refund. Not 2 months.[/EDIT]

Now Brian isn't a scammer, but he just screwed me in this situation. Basically he gave me an non-GSR oil pan when I wanted a GSR one and now he won't respond to my instant messages about getting a refund. I had to buy another oil pan from another board member; I ended up spending as much as it would cost to buy a new GSR oil pan. I'm just hoping Brian will see this and maybe we can resolve this so both myself and Brian are satisfied.

<u>Here's the im's I had with Brian up until he stopped responding. Towards the end I'm pretty much talking to myself</u>
(9:11 PM 9/1/2003) Brad: Hi Brian, I bought an oil pan from you in August. I picked it up at your warehouse. I tried putting it on today and it didn't fit. And after looking at it, it looks more like an ls\b16 oil pan. If you gave me the wrong pan by mistake, please tell me you have a GSR pan. I can stop by your warehouse tommorow to exchange them if so. I really really need one soon. Thanks.
(9:24 PM 9/1/2003) b18c1_powered_si: no way. it was stamped p72. that's gsr. no way it could be wrong.
(9:28 PM 9/1/2003) Brad: There's no P72 stamp on it.
(9:30 PM 9/1/2003) Brad: I noticed there was no stamp on it at the warehouse, but I figured 00 GSR pans didn't have them, there's definately a P72 stamp on my 95 GSR pan...
(9:31 PM 9/1/2003) b18c1_powered_si: well if u flip the oil pan it should be on there. all i do is part out gsr/itr swaps. so i dunno where i got a ls/b16a oil pan.
(9:34 PM 9/1/2003) Brad: I checked all over the pan I bought from you and there's no P72 stamp..Do you have a P72 stamped pan that I could exchange it for?
(9:53 PM 9/1/2003) b18c1_powered_si: no i dont grow used parts out of trees.
(10:19 PM 9/1/2003) Brad: I'm sorry to upset you Brian, but I'm in a desparate need of an oil pan. I'm taking off my turbo kit and getting ready for school down in San Diego. I'll be moving to an apartment there in less than two weeks and I need my car ready for the drive down. Is there any possibility of you getting a P72 oil pan within say a week or should I look elsewhere?
(10:42 PM 9/1/2003) b18c1_powered_si: dude. i dunno why that oil pan i gave u a month ago happens to be a ls now. i can't get it. all i do is part out these swaps sometimes.
(12:09 AM 9/2/2003) Brad: Maybe it was a b20? I remember asking about getting a b20 from you a long while back. I would have swapped pans sooner, but the oil pan gasket I ordered from acuraautomotiveparts.org was delayed because they were backordered on a clamp I also ordered. Heh, I tried saving some money on the gasket, but it ends up delaying me two weeks to get the gasket, when I could have gotten one from the dealer right away. The pan has been just sitting in my garage while I was stuck waiting for the parts from them. I didn't find out it was an ls/b16/b20 pan until today, when I removed the old pan and tried to fit the ls/b16/b20 one on.
(12:10 AM 9/2/2003) b18c1_powered_si: no way could it be a b20. like i said all ido is part out gsr/itr. and i dont know how i go about souring u a b20 oil pan.
(12:57 AM 9/2/2003) Brad: What do you think we should do about this problem?
(2:21 PM 9/2/2003) Brad: Well, I think the my best option is to return the oil pan to you for a refund. I can drive to your warehouse and deliver it there. Let me know what you think.
(3:22 PM 9/2/2003) b18c1_powered_si: u could bring it by. if it's not the same one that i gave u. i wont refund u.
(3:53 PM 9/2/2003) Brad: alright, cool. Let me know the address again and what time I should stop by.
(11:48 PM 9/4/2003) Brad: Hi Brian, I'm free all day Friday to meet up if you're available.
(2:06 PM 9/8/2003) Brad: Hi Brian, it's been a week since I first talked to you, so I was wondering if you happened upon a p72 oil pan. I bought this one from turbohf http://www.we-todd-did-racing....DE%3D, but I'd rather have one that doesn't have the peeling inside. I'm afraid the peelings might flake off and hurt my engine. please let me know. thanks.
(10:23 PM 9/9/2003) Brad: Hi Brian. You haven't been responding lately. What I'm going to do is drop the oil pan off at your warehouse and if you're not there you can paypal me the money for it. Let me know if you have any thoughts...

(8:19 PM 9/11/2003) Brad: I left you a message on your phone. Let me know if you got it.

(12:31 AM 9/13/2003) Brad: Well Brian, I'm leaving for San Diego in 2 hours. While I was getting ready I found the warehouse address and your contact number: XXXXxXXXX. But I guess it's too late for me to get a refund for the oil pan in person. I just want to let you know I'm really dissapointed this hasn't been resolved. You're a good guy Brian and so am I, I've done business with you before this soured transaction and received excellent service and products. Please respond and let me know your thoughts. I'm still hoping we can resolve this matter.

Here is my GSR pan with the oil return line and Brian's pan below:



Modified by Brad at 4:02 PM 9/19/2003


Modified by Brad at 4:02 PM 9/19/2003

 

uhhoooooh.

 

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ditto. Brian's a good guy. I hope he'll come through

 

wow that's crazy....

 

Why didn't you make sure you got a GSR pan while you were there? If you weren't sure what it was, you should have just asked.

Anyway, i hope this gets resolved soon.

 

u could post up all the **** u want. u came to my warehouse personally and looked at the oil pan personally. and i even remember pointing out to u everything on the oil pan. and 2 months later u come back and tell me it's a b20 oil pan. i only part out gsr/itr swaps where did i get that b20 oil pan.

 

I have dealt with brian before, he is a good seller, and does it really matter that much, it's not like it won't fit

 

If you looked at the damn thing yourself then you should have known what it was

 

just switch the oil pan, whats the big deal, u got a good rep on the boards.

 

I think Brian's point was theres no way it could be a B20 oil pan, since all he has is B18C oil pans.

 

i'm not switching oil pans for him. i only had part out gsr/itr swaps. and there was no way that i could have given him a b20 or a ls oil pan. and he personally looked at it himself. now 2 months later he wants a refund. my disclaimer rules are strictly enforced.

 

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do u have any oil pans to switch him?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by b18c1_powered_si &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i'm not switching oil pans for him. i only had part out gsr/itr swaps. and there was no way that i could have given him a b20 or a ls oil pan. and he personally looked at it himself. now 2 months later he wants a refund. my disclaimer rules are strictly enforced. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Im standing behind my San Francisco HOMIE....He only sells gsr/itr oil pans...someones trying to play games here.....

 

The deal is, the guy came to Brian's warehouse and at that point verified parts. You cannot get any better than verifying your OWN parts. Prior knowledge has been taken place.

To my understanding, Brian had specifically pointed out the decoding of P72. Brian ONLY parts out B18C parts. No other. Personally, I have requested nonVTEC parts but he refuses to deal with any sort.

Brian CANNOT switch out oil pans because he does not deal with nonVTEC parts. Why would Brian bring in a part he could not sell? Why should he deal with this 2 months AFTER the fact. Why would he part out a motor to get a customer the "right part", a second time.

Bottom is, the customer VERIFIED WITH HIS OWN eyes what the part was. If you leave the time of business and your own knowledge tells you its the CORRECT part, why is this such an issue NOW?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Migs &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The deal is, the guy came to Brian's warehouse and at that point verified parts. You cannot get any better than verifying your OWN parts. Prior knowledge has been taken place.

To my understanding, Brian had specifically pointed out the decoding of P72. Brian ONLY parts out B18C parts. No other. Personally, I have requested nonVTEC parts but he refuses to deal with any sort.


JUSTICE HAS BEEN SERVED....CASE CLOSED
Brian CANNOT switch out oil pans because he does not deal with nonVTEC parts. Why would Brian bring in a part he could not sell? Why should he deal with this 2 months AFTER the fact. Why would he part out a motor to get a customer the "right part", a second time.

Bottom is, the customer VERIFIED WITH HIS OWN eyes what the part was. If you leave the time of business and your own knowledge tells you its the CORRECT part, why is this such an issue NOW?</TD></TR></TABLE>

 

only way it could have been a b16 ls was if the girdle and pickup were switched out of the b18 vtec block just using main caps and b16 oil pan but if he showed and verified it then that would be out of the question.

 

brian is more then reputable, this is really a stupid post, he doesnt ever ever ever deal withanything but jdm itr and gsr motors. just usethe damn pan

 

I wanted a refund less than a month after the purchase, but I've been trying to get it for the 2 months you mentioned. You made the disclaimer after I made my purchase and only after I told you about the oil pan.

B-series oil pans are very similar and it's difficult to tell them apart. I trusted Brian that I was getting a GSR oil pan, but I guess he made a mistake that he's not owning up to. The oil pan he gave me could be for a B20 or B16 or and LS, but it won't fit a GSR.

I distinctly remember seeing no P72 stamp on the pan, but I figured '00 GSR pans didn't have stamps. I figured since Brian parts out motors all day he would know what type of oil pan he is selling. But that was wrong.

I remembered everything that day too. You made me wait 30 minutes at your warehouse because you were running late doing a swap. You got the oil pan from the corner of your warehouse under a pile of some stuff. You pointed out to me to always change the gasket and showed me the little 10 mm bolt left inside the pan. I looked the pan over and then gave you an offer for the pan and some radiator fans. You said something in Chinese to your buddy and then told me another price. I declined and bought the oil pan and left.

I'm not the one playing games here. I just want the right thing to be done.

 

I have purchased over 7000 dollars worth of parts from brian, WITHOUT verifying what it was, and it was always exactly what he described. Several weeks ago, he sent me two of the same seat backs. ( jdm itr rear seats) I told him, and he PAID for the shipping back to him, and the shipping of the correct seat back to me. This is because he had around 4 sets of jdm itr rear seats laying around. If he only had one oil pan laying around, theres no chance that a mistake like you described could occur. IF he had a 1 percent chance of giving you the wrong oil pan, he would take your old one back. This is ridiculous, and you shouldnt post this kind of **** up here. It wont do any good.

 

whatever u said man. i only had 1 oil pan. i can understand if i had more than 1 of a item. and i mistakenly gave u the wrong one. as of 9-1 the new disclaimer is up and strictly enforced. that's the bottom line.

 

Well if I spent $7000 buying stuff from Brian, I'm sure he'd be willing to give me the right oil pan. And I'd be willing to take store credit from Brian if you want to enforce your disclaimer. And I think this post does do good. At least I know what Brian thinks of the situation.

 

i'll vouch for b18c1_powered_si (Brian). He's true to his words and does what he saids.

 

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I felt this way too. I bought stuff from him in the past and everything was cool. But just this one transaction has gone to ****. I just hope he comes through. And we can resolve this situation.