can anyone direct me to the thread that discusses how much power people are getting with stock sleeves? i KNOW i saw it somewhere. i've been searching all morning!

 

b-series limits
000 - 299 whp : Stock block
300 - 339 whp : Forged Pistons
340 - 389 whp : Forged Pistons & Rods
390 - +++ whp : Forged Pistons, Rods, & Sleeves.

 

we got 365@12psi stock sleeve,forge piston and eagle rod.

 

What about d-series limits? About hundred whp less than b?

 

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I've seen 400+ out of stock b-series motors. But it's not something I'd recommend.

 

357whp at 16psi
on race gas

306whp at 12psi pump gas


going for 400+whp next time on the dyno

 

just to be sure... Does my 9.0 : 1 JE piston are forged...???

 

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306whp at 12psi pump gas
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that's pretty much what i was figuring..

i know: i'm gonna have to sleeve.

 

Theres a few on here getting 500+ on stock sleeves...Its all in the tuning.

 

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hehe yea.. a hint of detination and the motor blows apart.

liam

 

hehe, that if there is a hint of detonation....

 

i'm not sure how well i can trust the guy that's gonna do my hondata tuning. i've heard good things, and i've heard bad...
he's close, so i won't have to drive too far on a non-tuned car. he has all the equipment needed. but it IS almost $400, which i suppose is the going rate. hell. we'll see.

 

holy ****, ive never seen someone ask a question to them selves before on H-T

 

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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA !!!!!!!

 

You're talking about Church Automotive, right?

That's the only guy that would touch my car in CA.

I've never heard any negative comments about Church, direct me please.


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he's close, so i won't have to drive too far on a non-tuned car. he has all the equipment needed. but it IS almost $400, which i suppose is the going rate. hell. we'll see.</TD></TR></TABLE>

 

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kaj was logged into my computer earlier. Didn't even notice. I fixed it though.

 

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I dont want to come off wrong..but you could hit trackmaster and get it done on a dyno...I would watch where you take it to..hondata tunning is a art and not to be played with.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RyanAutry &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You're talking about Church Automotive, right?

That's the only guy that would touch my car in CA.

I've never heard any negative comments about Church, direct me please.


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no. i was talking VERY local. i'm having trouble getting a certain member of my family (who is helping me out with the hondata cost) to see just how CRITICAL it is to tune properly. it's hard to argue with someone who is willing to bust out $500 for ya. but i'd rather pay myself and have church OR trackmasters do it. ANYONE other than who i was referring to earlier.

with all this going on, i have a hard time remembering names. i totally forgot you mentioning church, Ryan.
we will most definitely do something like that. i would feel better. as long as we can baby the car down there. should be fine if we run no boost, right?
what do we do, not hook up the hondata 'till we get there??

 

I got you on a base map that will get you there..and for trackmasters to tune it its only 150 per hour and takes less than 1 hour most the time..but I have never seen them go over 2 hours..choice is yours

 

damnit...my sleeves aren't giving me ANY boost...but my turdbo does sometimes

 

Does 350whp on pump gas, all stock internals count?



I will be hitting 450whp all stock internals this winter once I have more time to work on my car, I should be able to hit 450whp around 20psi on 110 octane.

 

church automotive does the best tuning, i would highly recommend them, shawn tuned my stock block 2000 civic si with t3t04e to 241whp@7psi...

 

Didn't Karl's old car put down 509whp with rods, pistons, and stock sleeves?

 

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Yes