New dyno with Cheapturbodotcom Garrett 66-1 and Full Race manifold

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Old Aug 17, 2003 | 11:31 AM
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Default New dyno with Cheapturbodotcom Garrett 66-1 and Full Race manifold

Like I have promised Cheapturbodotcom when I purschased their Garrett 66-1 turbo which pushes 70lbs per minute. I finally got around and slap the turbo on and brought it to the dyno. This was a dyno with c16 pushing 27-28psi. Unfortunately I couldn't push the turbo to its full potential due to the 28 psi limiting factor of Hondata. The dynos were done at Balance Performance by Ed who often writes articles for Grassroot Motorsports magazine. We tuned at 12.1 A/F ratio. Sorry the dyno graph is not perfect. This was a stock Honda distributor. Since we have reached the limit of Hondata, I am trying to determine which stand alone Fuel management to get. The AEM is out of the question. Ed have suggested either the Wolf 3d or the Electromotive tec3...If anyone have any suggestions and experiences a great fuel management system, feel free to do so.


This was my old dyno and were done about 3 months ago

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=500069


Specs: b18c1 block sleeved by Golden Eagle, Eagle rods from importparts.com, head was gasket port and polished, 1 mm over size Ferrera valves on the exhaust side, skunk 2 springs and retainers, msd 6a, Full race manifold ceramic coated, Denso iridium plugs, Cometic HP gasket. Turbo is a t3/t4 Garrett 66-1 with .82 A/R housing, stage 3 wheel.





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Old Aug 17, 2003 | 11:37 AM
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is that daily driven
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Old Aug 17, 2003 | 11:42 AM
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that fmic is scary....
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Old Aug 17, 2003 | 11:49 AM
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Great job again, still same injectors as last time? DFI would be a good system to look into, its affordable and will open the door for you to go for bigger numbers
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Old Aug 17, 2003 | 11:54 AM
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nice dyno...wonder what it would do with a stage 5 exhaust instead 3 with that huge compressor wheel.

what about autronic engine managment...i dont have any personal experience with it, but ive never heard anyone complain about it...and also, ive not heard anyone mention this anywhere yet, but FJO offers a stand alone now...i dont know anything about it but it might be worth checking into.

http://www.fjoracing.com
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Old Aug 17, 2003 | 11:55 AM
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Autronic
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Old Aug 17, 2003 | 12:24 PM
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bump on the autronic. any engine bay pics?
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Old Aug 17, 2003 | 12:34 PM
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for a bad *** car like yours you want a motec.
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Old Aug 17, 2003 | 12:44 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SEFI8LOxCivic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">for a bad *** car like yours you want a motec.</TD></TR></TABLE>

why? the owner of autronic used to work or was part owner of motec (or something along those lines)...the autronic systems are just as good as motec, but just costs less
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Old Aug 17, 2003 | 01:14 PM
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lets see that engine bay mang!
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Old Aug 17, 2003 | 01:34 PM
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Damn trinh, u are putting out some crazy #'s, keep up the good work. Paul
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Old Aug 17, 2003 | 02:04 PM
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yes, the autronic is a very good computer. but i have run both and i honestly can say that the motec is better.

one thing i really don't like about the autronic is how it requires you to run their seperate wideband 02, which runs $1500 for their model A and $2500 for their model B.

another thing i don't like is the autronic mode flag system. while with enough common sense and the instruction manual in front of you it is manageable, the mode flag system isn't very intuitive.

there's other things too, but that goes beyond the scope of this thread. don't get me wrong, the autronic is a good computer, but to say it's just as good as a motec isn't totally true, and the price reflects so.

also, the price range of the motec isn't totally unattainable. in fact, i have a brand new m4pro for sale, $1800 ecu only, installation/tuning not included.
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Old Aug 17, 2003 | 02:12 PM
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Good numbers Trinh When you gonna get that monster back up to Commerce?

Robert
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Old Aug 17, 2003 | 02:15 PM
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how much was the turbo? Got any pics of it?
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Old Aug 17, 2003 | 02:46 PM
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motec
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Old Aug 17, 2003 | 04:36 PM
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speedpro.
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Old Aug 17, 2003 | 05:48 PM
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why is AEM out?
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Old Aug 17, 2003 | 06:35 PM
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Nice #'s. engine bay pics
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Old Aug 17, 2003 | 06:51 PM
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agreed!
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Old Aug 17, 2003 | 07:05 PM
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The comments about Autronic are true. Lets not forget that the Motec has it's high priced options. Data logging cost extra, the wideband is extra, and it doesn't have windows software. To make the M4 clubman a "Pro" unit costs over 1000.00.
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Old Aug 17, 2003 | 07:06 PM
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I'd be going for Haltech E11 or Autronic SM2
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Old Aug 17, 2003 | 08:44 PM
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Thats whats up.....
You got more pics of the car?
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Old Aug 17, 2003 | 09:01 PM
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looks nice, whats up w/some pics of the manifold..

im just curious as to why you already ruled out the aem ems? let me know what kind of timing your already running and i could build you a map in about 20 mins that would run the car great and take about 5 pulls to get perfect. not to mention boost control and traction control.

i have used the ems and a tec2.. didnt like the tec2 at all.
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Old Aug 17, 2003 | 09:53 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by deeweezy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">is that daily driven</TD></TR></TABLE>

If it is then that thing must be hard to control! Almost 600 at the wheels in a FWD Honda will tend to get stupid whenever you tap the gas pedal!!

That kicks ***...gonna be giving a lot of people in fast cars hear attacks!
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Old Aug 17, 2003 | 09:57 PM
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Nice Work.
Looks like the eagle rods are holding up
Good luck with your setup
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