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Old Jul 11, 2003 | 04:23 PM
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Well pulled the engine last night and tore it down today....enjoy the pics


So far so good


Should these two pistons be at the same level.....hmmmmm



Still looks okay



Oh no, this can't be good









I think I can fix that



Toda Power!

Not sure if I burned up the bearing and it locked up, or if the rod bolt broke and gubbered up the bearing, etc.

Opinions welcome.
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Old Jul 11, 2003 | 05:07 PM
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damn, your block looks like one of Saddam Hussien's palaces after a bunker buster hit it
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Old Jul 11, 2003 | 05:08 PM
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I was hoping to save the crank....don't think that's gonna happen.


Looks like things got kinda hot!

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Old Jul 11, 2003 | 05:11 PM
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might as well find another use for that crank.
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Old Jul 11, 2003 | 05:11 PM
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is the block salvageable? you could throw in an ls crank and get another girdle and stuff. or find a gsr crank.
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Old Jul 11, 2003 | 05:13 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Ivan &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">is the block salvageable? you could throw in an ls crank and get another girdle and stuff. or find a gsr crank.</TD></TR></TABLE>

No look at pics 4,5, and 6.
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Old Jul 11, 2003 | 05:13 PM
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damn chad, another setback with the crank. You have another B18C crank though, more money down the pooper if you ever need a hand just holla you got my number.
More broken stuff to show off to your friends

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Old Jul 11, 2003 | 05:14 PM
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Good pics of bad damage. What kind of sound did it make?
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Old Jul 11, 2003 | 05:15 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Ivan &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">is the block salvageable? you could throw in an ls crank and get another girdle and stuff. or find a gsr crank.</TD></TR></TABLE>

You're kidding right? Don't you see that big hole there?

Anyhow, don't get discouraged. It can look like this once you get done:
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Old Jul 11, 2003 | 05:16 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TodaSi &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

No look at pics 4,5, and 6.</TD></TR></TABLE>ahh I didn't see that chunk of the block missing. JB weld it . thats sucks man. I hope you get her running good again.
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Old Jul 11, 2003 | 05:20 PM
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Damn,

So the broken rod goes shears right through the main cap and then through the block?
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Old Jul 11, 2003 | 05:20 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Ivan &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ahh I didn't see that chunk of the block missing. JB weld it . thats sucks man. I hope you get her running good again. </TD></TR></TABLE>

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Joe Dirt &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">It'll buff out.</TD></TR></TABLE>
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Old Jul 11, 2003 | 05:24 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ITRbroham &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Damn,

So the broken rod goes shears right through the main cap and then through the block? </TD></TR></TABLE>

Yea, it actually broke both sides of the block...see pic, big hole far side, little hole on this side.
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Old Jul 11, 2003 | 06:23 PM
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What does everyone think of this block girdle? From Hybrid Garage





Modified by TodaSi at 1:03 AM 7/12/2003
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Old Jul 11, 2003 | 06:36 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TodaSi &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">What does everyone think of this block girdle? From Hybrid Garage

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Old Jul 11, 2003 | 06:58 PM
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That journal looks like it got hot ! Did you look at your other journals? Oil starvation would be evident on all of them, and if it was just a bearing or rod bolt failure, the other journals should look good.
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Old Jul 11, 2003 | 07:05 PM
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All the other journals look perfect. ( edit, mains #2,3,4 were bad) Just weird, #2 shouldn't be the one to go with oil starvation, if that was what it was...which I don't think so.

Still thinking it was a rod bolt.
b19coupe thanks for the input.


Modified by TodaSi at 12:40 AM 7/26/2003
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Old Jul 11, 2003 | 07:53 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TodaSi &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Still thinking it was a rod bolt. </TD></TR></TABLE>
That's kinda what I was thinking. Looks like one of them let go. It is amazing how much damage happens in a very short time when something does let go. When I had a stock retainer split, the valve dropped and tore up my engine in about 2 seconds.
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Old Jul 11, 2003 | 08:55 PM
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That crank girdle sure looks beefy. Looks like it reinforces the entire block, and not just the center part!

That sure is a lot of damage........
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Old Jul 11, 2003 | 09:39 PM
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wow and its all Fluffy's (matt) fault
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Old Jul 11, 2003 | 09:42 PM
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Someone was telling me that you were using a UR pulley. I thought that in some way that along with your lightend crank, and use of stock rod casued all the drama in your engine.

Because of the fact that the UR does not use the torsional vibration dampner found on the OEM honda crank pulleys. Im sure you konw what that does, i showed the pic from the track to a friend, and his first words were.... "damn, thats a weird spot for that to happen, what kinda crank pulley was he running"

Did you have the rods shot peened before you had the pistons put on them?

But eh... theres more to it than just that obviously, but i think the UR pulley may have played a major part in the demise of your block.
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Old Jul 11, 2003 | 10:34 PM
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Moe is obsessed with shot peened rods
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Old Jul 11, 2003 | 10:47 PM
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Not exactly... your obsessed with just replacing 1 piston like a reatard.

Hey heres an idea, lets not turn Honda-tech into CSI.... alright, kthanx.
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Old Jul 11, 2003 | 11:20 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Moe &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Because of the fact that the UR does not use the torsional vibration dampner found on the OEM honda crank pulleys. Im sure you konw what that does, i showed the pic from the track to a friend, and his first words were.... "damn, thats a weird spot for that to happen, what kinda crank pulley was he running"
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Oh please. Not this crap again.

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Old Jul 12, 2003 | 06:49 AM
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it was me. it sounded like someone threw a brick at the side of the car. then pieces went bouncing under the car, and the car filled with smoke. what a day.
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